Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Assuming Brock is 100% healthy at the start of the regular season, I think Kyle will get Trey on the field in the regular season with certain packages. I think thats why they drafted all those TEs and hybrid undrafted players. A three tight end *passing* offense with Lance (vs Purdy) in short yardage and goal line situation will be (i think) something teams will have a huge headache in preparing for.

This is the Taysom Hill scenario (again assuming Brock is 100% healthy) at the start of the NFL season. Taysom did well behind Brees, but the next head coach changed Tasyom's career trajectory to TE despite going 4-1 as a starting QB after Brees retired. This keeps Trey's head in the game and offers him actual in-game reps to develop. They can also tell his evolving proficiency in Kyles passing offense by actually comparing him to Brock in actual game and similar playcall scenarios.

How in the world does that make him a better QB? Tossing him out has a Taysom Hill like player? All your doing is making him a glorified RB who might throw the ball once on a designed one read play.

I hate that idea. If Brock's the guy then play him. No random crap. If Lance is the guy play him. No sub package crap.

IMO none of these guys have a long leash. They aren't in the developing a QB business clearly. If you can't play then on to the next guy and so on and so on. It's wild because they got no problem dealing with the developmental process at every other position.

Walsh did that with Joe and Deburg, and Kyle did that (for a couple of games) during Trey's rookie year with Jimmy. I think he can do that again to showcase Trey and get Trey in-game reps. You mention how can Trey get actual game reps to improve if Brock is 100% healthy, well that's *one* way of doing it.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Walsh did that with Joe and Deburg, and Kyle did that (for a couple of games) during Trey's rookie year with Jimmy. I think he can do that again to showcase Trey and get Trey in-game reps. You mention how can Trey get actual game reps to improve if Brock is 100% healthy, well that's *one* way of doing it.

Bring him in for the QB sneaks. The one area BP looked God awful

Originally posted by Giedi:
Walsh did that with Joe and Deburg, and Kyle did that (for a couple of games) during Trey's rookie year with Jimmy. I think he can do that again to showcase Trey and get Trey in-game reps. You mention how can Trey get actual game reps to improve if Brock is 100% healthy, well that's *one* way of doing it.

He doesn't need hill reps. He needs legit reps. QB in the huddle going though progression reps. He needs to get rhythm as a passer. All QBs do, I hate the idea.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Walsh did that with Joe and Deburg, and Kyle did that (for a couple of games) during Trey's rookie year with Jimmy. I think he can do that again to showcase Trey and get Trey in-game reps. You mention how can Trey get actual game reps to improve if Brock is 100% healthy, well that's *one* way of doing it.

He doesn't need hill reps. He needs legit reps. QB in the huddle going though progression reps. He needs to get rhythm as a passer. All QBs do, I hate the idea.

He should get that with the Taysom package scenario. In the 5+ games that Brock played, he blew out some of the bottom feeding teams by a lot. (Tampa Bay as an example) and conceivably Trey can step in and run Kyles 4 minute offense with that strong run formation in a blowout situation. He still has Deebo, CMC and Kittle as vertical passing threats, and the defense can't ignore CMC or Deebo as a RB either. Its probably not feasible in close games, but in blowout situations - let's say the middle of the third QTr and 49ers are ahead by two or more scores and are in control of the game, that allows Kyle to put Trey sooner for a big part of the 4th QTr. Helps preserve Brock's health *and* gives Trey valuable in-game reps.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Walsh did that with Joe and Deburg, and Kyle did that (for a couple of games) during Trey's rookie year with Jimmy. I think he can do that again to showcase Trey and get Trey in-game reps. You mention how can Trey get actual game reps to improve if Brock is 100% healthy, well that's *one* way of doing it.

Bring him in for the QB sneaks. The one area BP looked God awful

True, but I'd rather not have any of our QBs running. But yeah, that's one play Trey definitely can run (but I'd rather not have him run much anymore to be honest). The injury factor is a big issue for me on those QB sneaks and runs. But that's just me.

He makes a good point.

If you're a true 49er fan, you should be hoping Trey actually turns the corner and maximizes his potential. Because it's top 5 QB potential.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
He makes a good point.

If you're a true 49er fan, you should be hoping Trey actually turns the corner and maximizes his potential. Because it's top 5 QB potential.

Yes and BP gets back to health better than ever and Sam has it click with talent around him / coaching. We have 3 franchise like QBs, with FQB potential. I am hoping we hit on multiple and it's QB comp like the golden era.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
He makes a good point.

If you're a true 49er fan, you should be hoping Trey actually turns the corner and maximizes his potential. Because it's top 5 QB potential.

There is a difference between hope and expectation.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
He makes a good point.

If you're a true 49er fan, you should be hoping Trey actually turns the corner and maximizes his potential. Because it's top 5 QB potential.

You would think Rings. You would think

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
He makes a good point.

If you're a true 49er fan, you should be hoping Trey actually turns the corner and maximizes his potential. Because it's top 5 QB potential.

You would think Rings. You would think

lol

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
lol

People who legit hope Trey succeeds don't find ways to take a shot at him in every single qb thread no matter the discussion.

I expected Aaron Banks to fail originally but I didn't spend the last two offseasons taking shots ad nauseum in every OL thread. Was actually hoping to be wrong.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
lol

People who legit hope Trey succeeds don't find ways to take a shot at him in every single qb thread no matter the discussion.

I expected Aaron Banks to fail originally but I didn't spend the last two offseasons taking shots ad nauseum in every OL thread. Was actually hoping to be wrong.

ppl all over who are down on the TDP pick, the Moody pick, the Latu pick, Kinlaw, no one is rooting for failure, there are simply different valid opinions on what is in the best interest of our club, even the ppl down on those guys, would LOVE to see them ball out

yet you get to the QB thread and it's welp, you don't view it exactly how i view it, you must be a fake fan Trey hating Treytor.. come on with that

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
ppl all over who are down on the TDP pick, the Moody pick, the Latu pick, Kinlaw, no one is rooting for failure, there are simply different valid opinions on what is in the best interest of our club, even the ppl down on those guys, would LOVE to see them ball out

yet you get to the QB thread and it's welp, you don't view it exactly how i view it, you must be a fake fan Trey hating Treytor.. come on with that

Not even remotely. I got no issue with tankle being pessimistic on Trey. I really have no issue with anyone being pessimistic on Trey.

But when every post in every qb thread is a shot even when it's not the topic that doesn't suggest a hope of success.

I think the reason Trey is losing his hair is its running from these weird obsessed fans.

If someone goes to the Kittle thread in a discussion about tight end U and says that won't help Latu at all that would be weirdly obsessive and not even remotely sounding like a guy who hopes he succeeds. See the difference?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
ppl all over who are down on the TDP pick, the Moody pick, the Latu pick, Kinlaw, no one is rooting for failure, there are simply different valid opinions on what is in the best interest of our club, even the ppl down on those guys, would LOVE to see them ball out

yet you get to the QB thread and it's welp, you don't view it exactly how i view it, you must be a fake fan Trey hating Treytor.. come on with that

Not even remotely. I got no issue with tankle being pessimistic on Trey. I really have no issue with anyone being pessimistic on Trey.

But when every post in every qb thread is a shot even when it's not the topic that doesn't suggest a hope of success.

I think the reason Trey is losing his hair is its running from these weird obsessed fans.

If someone goes to the Kittle thread in a discussion about tight end U and says that won't help Latu at all that would be weirdly obsessive and not even remotely sounding like a guy who hopes he succeeds. See the difference?

what post are you talking about, who hurt you?

if you got a issue with a post let's see the post, so we can discuss

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
what post are you talking about, who hurt you?

if you got a issue with a post let's see the post, so we can discuss

Take your pick of every krizay post of the last year. Hell just look in the Darnold thread today.

Not about hurt. It's about weirdly obsessed fans over a kid with 4 starts.