Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Lot of b***hing of armchair GMs and HCs here apparently.
Remember all the morons that cried because Shanahan and Lynch weren´t as agressive as the Rams?
Finally they took a risk and did a trade up to get a QB. So far it´s not the expected result. They still won ton of games and the roster improves year after year. Who absolutely cares?
Sure you can cry about Micah Parsons. I still remember the weird things he did at Penn State, so yeah he screams Cowboys at the end of the day.

And by the way it isn´t Trey Lance ´s fault, Shanahan doesn´t value first round picks as much as fans.
The Texans did basically the same trade the Niners did. The 33th first round pick is not so different that the low first rounders the Dolphins got ultimately.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by raywm3:
I REALLY hate the trade for Trey now. The Texans do the EXACT same trade up and give up wayyyy less. And at least they KNEW who they were trading up for. Two years in and Trey is still a project. f**kin b******t.

He's not a project, just injured

Dude, you always have the worst takes...how in the world is a glorified high school QB who has basically never played meaningful time in college or the NFL NOT a project.

That's not characterizing it's just a fact. He's more of a project than the last pick of the 7th round was for the 49ers. It's just the truth.

It is not "just the truth". It is just your opinion.

Regarding your other comment, Lance took his team to the 2020 NCAA Division I Football Championship Game and was named the MVP.

exactly, and he doesn't know what a project is

Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
We had the luxury to make this move. if we were a bottom tier team.. the damage would have been greater

The luxury? I don't see any rings.

They traded all those assets without even knowing who they wanted to draft. Months in advance. To draft maybe the 3rd best QB prospect.

Independent of whether the pick panned out, that is f**king insanity.

You don't need rings. The move didn't make or break us. true def of a luxury move

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

We had the luxury to make this move. if we were a bottom tier team.. the damage would have been greater

The luxury? I don't see any rings.

They traded all those assets without even knowing who they wanted to draft. Months in advance. To draft maybe the 3rd best QB prospect.

Independent of whether the pick panned out, that is f**king insanity.

You don't need rings. The move didn't make or break us. true def of a luxury move

Have to see how we fare after this draft before we can say that. We won't really know if the trade broke us until we start losing some of the core. Then we'll see if not having the picks to replace those players cost us or not

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by raywm3:
I REALLY hate the trade for Trey now. The Texans do the EXACT same trade up and give up wayyyy less. And at least they KNEW who they were trading up for. Two years in and Trey is still a project. f**kin b******t.

He's not a project, just injured

Dude, you always have the worst takes...how in the world is a glorified high school QB who has basically never played meaningful time in college or the NFL NOT a project.

That's not characterizing it's just a fact. He's more of a project than the last pick of the 7th round was for the 49ers. It's just the truth.

It is not "just the truth". It is just your opinion.

Regarding your other comment, Lance took his team to the 2020 NCAA Division I Football Championship Game and was named the MVP.

exactly, and he doesn't know what a project is

Trey Lance is the definition of a project.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by raywm3:
I REALLY hate the trade for Trey now. The Texans do the EXACT same trade up and give up wayyyy less. And at least they KNEW who they were trading up for. Two years in and Trey is still a project. f**kin b******t.

He's not a project, just injured

Dude, you always have the worst takes...how in the world is a glorified high school QB who has basically never played meaningful time in college or the NFL NOT a project.

That's not characterizing it's just a fact. He's more of a project than the last pick of the 7th round was for the 49ers. It's just the truth.

It is not "just the truth". It is just your opinion.

Regarding your other comment, Lance took his team to the 2020 NCAA Division I Football Championship Game and was named the MVP.

exactly, and he doesn't know what a project is

Trey Lance is the definition of a project.

Apparently our entire offense is a project, we haven't won a super bowl with all this big money being paid to the stars on offense and a "genus" coach.

But we have the #1 defense.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
even if it goes sideways, QB is still the hardest position to fill. i don't think anyone should be getting fired for making that gamble, especially when the rest of the team is a SB caliner team

It could have a cascading or domino effect on the team. It's extremely unlikely we're competing for Super Bowls without at least average QB play (Jimmy level) in addition to the great roster we have. We handicapped our ability to bolster the roster going forward with the '21 trade and that would be compounded if we were left in a position to use even more capital on the QB position.

We already saw a glimpse of this in the '21 and '22 seasons.

We handicapped our roster because of the Trey trade? How? Our 2021 draft landed all pro Hufunga, starters Aaron Banks and Lenior, and Elijah Mitchell who is basically a starter. Any team than lands 3 starters in a draft his a home run. In 2022, we landed Purdy (our starting franchise quarterback) and Buford after only one year. Drake Jackson, Danny Grey, and Sam Womack, Nick Zakelj, and Kalia Davis all present opportunities to find additional starters or contributors. Both drafts have been absolute home runs. We did draft Purdy in 2022. It doesn't matter that he was Mr. (Relevant). This front office regularly finds stars and starters in late rounds, which has mitigated the negative impact of losing those picks. The 2023 draft is the last remnant of Trey's trade. This draft is universally viewed as incredibly weak. Teams gave out a much smaller number of 1st round grades on players than normal - something like 8-12 1st round grades. We were never going to draft one of those guys anyway. The remaining first rounders are glorified second rounders just determined by team preference. We have 11 picks - plenty of ammo to move up if needed - but can stand pat and improve our roster.

Obviously with hindsight the team doesn't make that trade. Having the picks is obviously preferable to not having the picks. But I am not worried about Lynch's ability to construct this roster.

Originally posted by SD49er:
We handicapped our roster because of the Trey trade? How?

these first two sentences had me like

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by hummbabybear:
I can only think of two great QBs who were on one NFL team but became a big star on a different team:
1) Steve Young (Bucs)
2) Brett Favre (Falcons)
Anyone else?

Rich Gannon

I was gonna say Randall Cunningham but then it turns out he was already a star in Philly. But then he had the one MVP year and then retired two years later.

Of course the most obvious one: John Elway. First he was a Colt then he was a Bronco 🤣

Originally posted by hummbabybear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
someone noticed I snuck Nate Peterman on there

I didn't include Warren Moon or Kurt Warner 'cause Oilers/Rams were their first NFL team.

Anyways I was just thinking it is incredibly rare for a QB to become a star on their subsequent team. Does anyone know why Falcons cut bait with Favre so quickly?

Wasn't Warner in Green Bay as a camp guy?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by hummbabybear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
someone noticed I snuck Nate Peterman on there

I didn't include Warren Moon or Kurt Warner 'cause Oilers/Rams were their first NFL team.

Anyways I was just thinking it is incredibly rare for a QB to become a star on their subsequent team. Does anyone know why Falcons cut bait with Favre so quickly?

Wasn't Warner in Green Bay as a camp guy?

ding ding ding winner winner, chicken dinner

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NavyNinerFan:
Like someone said. It's April and what else we got to talk about. My two cents. Lance is not going to be traded. Darnold signing is interesting as to why he signed here but I still think they are so afraid of injuries they loaded up with three "affordable" for this year anyway QB's to be safe. The best will play obviously. The others will sit as an insurance policy. Next year it will shake out who stays. Team is too good to risk last years nightmare QB situation.

The incentives tell the story. The team isn't just going to include them by default, beyond the fact that they are highly unusual for a QB3 contract.

They speak to what kind of opportunity Darnold is looking and our team's willingness to provide that opportunity. It doesn't fit the idea that he's simply insurance for injury to both Trey and Brock.

It does if that's what it takes to get quality insurance. All of you keep forgetting we played Josh Johnson in the NFCCG. That has changed the calculus about QB3 around here. QB3 needs to be capable of winning. That means you have to sweeten the deal to get a good guy to join. Including a promise of a real opportunity to compete for the two and one job.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Darnolds QB coach literally said he's starting. I know he could just be showing 100% confidence in his guy, but why would he say that if Sam had no shot at the job?

Some folks seem to forget free agents have a say where they go. Teams have to persuade them to come to their franchise. The team can want 3 starting caliber guys all they want but how would you of pitched darnold to convince him to come here? I doubt it was "everyone will likely get injured" or "come here and be third string/inactive all season".

maybe that's what happened, maybe he just wanted the coaching? I just think think if I was darnold and had the chance to get an opportunity to play or be a guaranteed second string, I would.

Yea they would explore more options if that's all they had lol Darnold wouldn't have signed here immediately for 3rd string.

All I know is if I'm Brock or Trey and Sam comes in loaded with incentives to start, but knows he can't, I'd definitely feel like he came here hoping I get hurt lol

Watch we trade darnold and Lance starts and balls. I would be happy but it would also be hilarious cause you know we'd never hear the end of it, which I'm fine with. I want the guy to succeed, especially as the 49ers qb.

I really doubt that happens. Even if Trey plays great, we're keeping Darnold. In fact I think we're keeping both unless someone offers a darn good trade package.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by raywm3:
I REALLY hate the trade for Trey now. The Texans do the EXACT same trade up and give up wayyyy less. And at least they KNEW who they were trading up for. Two years in and Trey is still a project. f**kin b******t.

He's not a project, just injured

Dude, you always have the worst takes...how in the world is a glorified high school QB who has basically never played meaningful time in college or the NFL NOT a project.

That's not characterizing it's just a fact. He's more of a project than the last pick of the 7th round was for the 49ers. It's just the truth.

It is not "just the truth". It is just your opinion.

Regarding your other comment, Lance took his team to the 2020 NCAA Division I Football Championship Game and was named the MVP.

exactly, and he doesn't know what a project is

Trey Lance is the definition of a project.

nope, His injury stopped him playing. not his play

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by hummbabybear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
someone noticed I snuck Nate Peterman on there

I didn't include Warren Moon or Kurt Warner 'cause Oilers/Rams were their first NFL team.

Anyways I was just thinking it is incredibly rare for a QB to become a star on their subsequent team. Does anyone know why Falcons cut bait with Favre so quickly?

Wasn't Warner in Green Bay as a camp guy?

ding ding ding winner winner, chicken dinner

he was on other teams after GB