Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win… against an awful football team.

That's like playing limbo and the bar is set where a 6'0 tall person can walk right under without bending. Lol

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Trey has time, he is barely old enough to play at Alabama

Not really. Clock is ticking hard on him cause the 5th-year option decision will have to be made before the 2024 season.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win.

I don't mind saying it wasn't a great game. It wasn't. But when posters use Jimmy's week 18 game as proof that Jimmy saved the season, it's highly hypocritical since he struggled in the first half just the same as Lance did. Jimmy had the same defense, did he not?

That's not even projecting, go back a couple pages and you see that exact argument from Jose.

I'm amazed that so many of you think so little of Trey Lance when no one knows anything yet. I've seen a lot of good/great QBs who look like utter trash there first few starts/years in the league. Way worse then what Trey looked like.

Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields looked like trash their first year.
Steve Young was trash his first couple years. The lowly Bucs even gave up on him.
Kurt Warner was so bad he was sent home to pack groceries at the grocery store.
Aaron Rodgers didnt start a game until his 4th year!!!! Imagine that
Josh Allen was trash his first couple years.
Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions his first year
I can go on and on.

But Trey doesnt light the world on fire in his first start as QB1 and now he's a bust. I can't take you guys seriously with that logic.

Purdy may very well be better than Trey and thats fine with me. I just can't fathom why some of you are coming in here and proclaiming Trey will never be good.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win… against an awful football team.

That's like playing limbo and the bar is set where a 6'0 tall person can walk right under without bending. Lol

So according to your logic a QB has 1 game to prove himself. If not then he's not the guy right?

LOL

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win.

I don't mind saying it wasn't a great game. It wasn't. But when posters use Jimmy's week 18 game as proof that Jimmy saved the season, it's highly hypocritical since he struggled in the first half just the same as Lance did. Jimmy had the same defense, did he not?

That's not even projecting, go back a couple pages and you see that exact argument from Jose.

Yeah but who gives a f**k what Jimmy did or didn't do? The fact is that kyle chose a busted up jimmy over Lance. Most likely because of his experience but also did to lances inexperience/rawness. They both didn't play great.

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I'm just saying they are probably thinking like you. Brock has not proven it over a long period, and he's coming off elbow surgery. They could see Kirk as insurance for that. They obviously don't see Trey as insurance for that scenario like you do

You talk to Kyle off the record or something?

It's kind of mind blowing to me that you'd believe they'd trade for a QB making $20 million dollars while having a $48 million dead cap hit for the Vikings as insurance for Brock but not the fact that they like Trey Lance?

There would have to be a workaround with the contract for sure.

This is just me, but if they were excited about Trey they would be shouting it to the world. They would be talking about how he hasn't had a fair chance but wait until we see him this year. If they thought he was going to take off if he didn't get injured like they said, wouldn't they just start him?

That's how it would be if you were running things. You have to ask yourself why it's not like that. Why don't they share the same excitement and confidence

Did you just start watching this team? When has Kyle Shanahan ever shouted anything to the world.

He said they feel strong about Trey Lance and that he's got a chance to win his job if he shows them what he's capable of. That's the most you're going to hear out of Shanahan when the tape isn't there yet. Even with Brock its tampered expectations.

Shanahan is not the type to over praise anyone. Even with proven studs like Deebo, Kittle, Trent, CMC you'll get brief praise from him. Trey obviously isn't anywhere near that level so why are you expecting then to bring out major kudos for the kid?

Did we trade Aiyuk when Kyle wasn't singing his praises into year 2? Once BA went into the offseason and killed it heading into last year then the praise started coming and even then it was tame.

There is no reason to keep Trey being good under the vest lol. There is every reason to talk him up and support him. Yet they don't.

He's not the type to overpraise anyone, yet he's giving out more praise to Sam Darnold than the player he invested 3 firsts. Connect the dots man

Where is this praise you speak of for Darnold that's not there for Trey? You just making sh*t up now.

And if you need to know some guys need coddling, others don't.

Darnold is a reclamation project. You have to baby him and hope he gets some confidence back. They want to see Trey's competitiveness come out. They don't need to wash his nuts when he's a smart kid and understands the situation.

He doesn't necessarily need the coddling, but the media is questioning him and their decision to draft him. There's nothing they can say to defend themselves or support him. The coach is handing out more praise to a bust. The GM is talking about how he needs to see the field and how that's how that's a problem lol this looks really bad for Trey

Give me a quote to show that.

You want to see what you want in what he said so by all means stretch it out. I saw the interview from Kyle. There was no OMG Sam is so good, we can't wait to get him out there and Trey better come ready to play because he's sucked so far.

Cuz that's what you guys are insinuating.

No I'm insinuating he believes in Sam more than Trey. That's what Kyle did too if you watch his interview. When the Gm says he needs to play and that's a problem, he's probably done

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win… against an awful football team.

That's like playing limbo and the bar is set where a 6'0 tall person can walk right under without bending. Lol

So according to your logic a QB has 1 game to prove himself. If not then he's not the guy right?

LOL

Idk what you're even talking about. Lol stop making up whatever the hell you're saying. All I said was that Lance didn't have a great game and you have to hold your qb to a higher standard when it comes to what their qualities of game are.

for context, treys best game would be Purdys worst game. Is it still great in anyones mind? It shouldn't be. That isn't a knock on Lance and saying he can never play great. Im saying to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that in order to say the played great

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I'm not using those years. I'm using 2016-2022. Did you forget to include 2016? Where Brady was out for the year which meant Jimmy could have started 16 games?

Edit: I stand corrected. All these years I thought Brady didn't play in 2016. My bad.

so remove 12 games from his total of 103. 103-12… you get 91 potential games.

I did the math already on JG when I was comparing JG and Carr in FA. Carr essentially is 100%. Owner Arthur Blank just came out recently and said in our business missed games for QB1 are a big deal. He said that in relation to Lamar Jackson.

Pretty quick and easy to do the math on TL. I don't think it's constructive or meaningful to look at total career games vs starts, as obviously JG isn't gonna walk in and start over a healthy Brady. Also not fair to TL to dock him for missing starts year 1, when he was sitting that year by design.

This number is looking at QB1 games where the player did not start, due to injury.
2016 - 2/4 JG
2017 - 5/5
2018 - 3/16
2019 - 16/16
2020 - 6/16
2021 - 15/17
2022 - 10/15

that's 57 starts, 89 possible.. 64%
TL would read like this

2021 - 2/2
2022 - 2/17

that's 4/19 or 21%
with a full season next year it would be this for Trey:
21/36 or 58%

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win.

I don't mind saying it wasn't a great game. It wasn't. But when posters use Jimmy's week 18 game as proof that Jimmy saved the season, it's highly hypocritical since he struggled in the first half just the same as Lance did. Jimmy had the same defense, did he not?

That's not even projecting, go back a couple pages and you see that exact argument from Jose.

Yeah but who gives a f**k what Jimmy did or didn't do? The fact is that kyle chose a busted up jimmy over Lance. Most likely because of his experience but also did to lances inexperience/rawness. They both didn't play great.

This is why I can't take your posts seriously. A busted up Jimmy but a 21 year old with a broken finger is not mentioned. I'm sorry but you and others keep repeating that Jimmy was hurt but don't mention Trey's injury. It's 100% on purpose and you know it.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win… against an awful football team.

That's like playing limbo and the bar is set where a 6'0 tall person can walk right under without bending. Lol

So according to your logic a QB has 1 game to prove himself. If not then he's not the guy right?

LOL

Idk what you're even talking about. Lol stop making up whatever the hell you're saying. All I said was that Lance didn't have a great game and you have to hold your qb to a higher standard when it comes to what their qualities of game are.

Based off 1 game

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win.

I don't mind saying it wasn't a great game. It wasn't. But when posters use Jimmy's week 18 game as proof that Jimmy saved the season, it's highly hypocritical since he struggled in the first half just the same as Lance did. Jimmy had the same defense, did he not?

That's not even projecting, go back a couple pages and you see that exact argument from Jose.

Yeah but who gives a f**k what Jimmy did or didn't do? The fact is that kyle chose a busted up jimmy over Lance. Most likely because of his experience but also did to lances inexperience/rawness. They both didn't play great.

This is why I can't take your posts seriously. A busted up Jimmy but a 21 year old with a broken finger is not mentioned. I'm sorry but you and others keep repeating that Jimmy was hurt but don't mention Trey's injury. It's 100% on purpose and you know it.

How long do you think a broken finger takes to heal? He hurt it in august and now we are in week 17. Come on man. Sure let's just say Trey was hurt, and? Still wasn't a great game?

a hurt finger from 5 months ago and a torn UCL in the thumb, not a great comparison. I believe Jimmy also had a separated shoulder. Those are totally different and not comparable

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win… against an awful football team.

That's like playing limbo and the bar is set where a 6'0 tall person can walk right under without bending. Lol

So according to your logic a QB has 1 game to prove himself. If not then he's not the guy right?

LOL

Idk what you're even talking about. Lol stop making up whatever the hell you're saying. All I said was that Lance didn't have a great game and you have to hold your qb to a higher standard when it comes to what their qualities of game are.

Based off 1 game

It's literally by far his best game. His only half way decent game. Once again, it would of been Brock's worst game. Lol so was Brock godly? Since that was a great performance by Lance?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao Lance did not have a great game against the 4-13 Texans. He had a decent game - he only did something in 1.5/4 quarters. That's not a great game, good game maybe, but not great.

You have to hold whoever our qb is to a higher standard than that, you can't set the bar that low. It was a must win game and of course Lance deserves credit for that but let's not act like our defense didn't nearly shut them out. This wasn't some gun slinging battle where Lance had to carry us to victory. He just had to have A few drives that ended with a score to win… against an awful football team.

That's like playing limbo and the bar is set where a 6'0 tall person can walk right under without bending. Lol

So according to your logic a QB has 1 game to prove himself. If not then he's not the guy right?

LOL

Idk what you're even talking about. Lol stop making up whatever the hell you're saying. All I said was that Lance didn't have a great game and you have to hold your qb to a higher standard when it comes to what their qualities of game are.

Based off 1 game

It's literally by far his best game. His only half way decent game. Once again, it would of been Brock's worst game. Lol so was Brock godly? Since that was a great performance by Lance?

You guys really going to continue exchanging all these blows given little to go off of?

He certainly wasnt out there tripping over his own feet. He certainly looks athletic, looks like he has a rocket arm, and looks like he is plenty capable regarding room for growth.

Beyond that, there's really nothing to fuss over. What he can ultimately become is all wait and see.