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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
So you are discussing a poster rather than the team and bringing Jimmy G into it?

I'm bringing up his lack of consistency on QBs.

But you know calling out Ring with a meme is far more on topic.

Huh?
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I appreciate showing the plays NY.

In NFL, these throws are considered layups. Gotta hit your layups. Notice on JFs he has to show his athleticism to get out of a jam. In coverage, it's hard to hold up for 5-7+ secs. On the JF play I count about 7-8 secs prior to ball out of hand.

Yeah where was that energy from you when Jimmy was missing all these "layups" for years!? Look at the freaking field. The bears field is notorious for poor drainage.

fields running has ZERO to do with him tossing up a ball to Pettis standing still with no one around him for 10 yards. That play requires zero on the scale of accuracy. Do. Not. Deflect.

LOL at being hung up ok Kap, Alex and Jimmy takes and spamming current QB threads with them.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yep. And they're still trying to bring up Jimmy in here. One thread is not enough Jimmy for them

Should bring up a Chicago Bears QB instead and talk about him ad nauseum as if he's relevant to anything.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yep. And they're still trying to bring up Jimmy in here. One thread is not enough Jimmy for them

Just calling people out for what they are. This is a horrible throw according to them…


but s**t like this got defended until the cows came home (for years!) from the same people lol.



stop being a hypocrite.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yep. And they're still trying to bring up Jimmy in here. One thread is not enough Jimmy for them

Should bring up a Chicago Bears QB instead and talk about him ad nauseum as if he's relevant to anything.

Dude did you see the accuracy needed for that pass to be completed?! Wow
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Huh?

Didn't Bayarea just criticize a poster? If anyone needs a butthurt thread. But since you agree with him you ignore it.

Why is it not relevant to how posters grade qbs to look at how they speak of all the QBs? Why can't we ask for consistency?

Pretty self explanatory.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

stop being a hypocrite.

you should chill on this take "pot"
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
LMAO

Yeah Brock losing Deebo in the middle of a game that was already a blowout is the same thing as:

-No Kittle
-Jeff Wilson Jr. instead of Christian Mccaffrey
-60% of the OL playing for the first time
-playing in the rain on the road
-week 1

Yeah, totally even.



notice the no Kittle, no CMC comments..
plus our OL is playing for the first time.. with HOF Trent btw
and again the infamous weather..

ppl can decide for themselves if this is anything worth discussing many months later or if it's just excuses for why we lost to a 3-14 team that earned pick #1
if JF can win with Pettis, EQ ST Brown, TL can win with Deebo, Trent, BA and put it in the endzone.. but he's got to improve

Dude. Your reading comprehension is painfully bad, or you are being intentionally obtuse.

That list is not a list of reasons/excuses why the 49ers lost. It is not a list of reasons why Trey didnt have a good game. It is literally just a factual list of differences between week 1 and the games Purdy played in. Period.

Stop changing the conversation or turning this into something it isnt.

You make it sound like Shanahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, Trent freaking Williams, Juice are all a group of chumps..

are they as good as the same with CMC / Kittle.. obviously no, that doesn't even need said, if that's your point..

you can't explain away the dif of how TL looked and how Brock looked through supporting cast.. that ignores how robotic TL was looking and how smooth BP was looking, that's not 100% on CMC, recall Baker played with CMC and got fired for example.

No I am not. YOU are doing that in your head.

You are making me want to stop engaging with you on this board. Its ridiculous that you are even arguing at this point. Literally all I said was the circumstances around Trey's week 1 start was vastly different than the circumstances Brock faced (and listed the circumstances). Why cant you just move along? You are literally creating an argument in your head, and arguing against facts.

if your point is the offense is better than CMC what kind of point is that.. that doesn't need said
my point stands that if you want to talk vast talent differences.. I saw one week 1, and TL had the talent around him, JF didn't.. we legit cut Pettis from our roster, ST Brown cut as well

what I hear is a lot of reasons for why BP did well and TL didn't and I don't buy it.. I will say of course we are better with CMC, but if JF can win with cut receivers no one wants vs the #1 D; then Deebo, BA, Shanahan, Trent are all filet mignon compared to what Fields had to work with..

I see 49er fans all around me disregarding our talent; for example I was laughed at when I called our tackles bookend tackles, meanwhile in the real NFL, Trent is going to Canton, and McG just got paid $87.5 million. We aren't a bad roster, even without CMC we are very very good. Bears would have traded talent with us in a heartbeat, and try imaging for a second TL with no Deebo, no BA, no Trent, no Shanny and EQ St Brown and Pettis.

Will you just stop? The conversation I was having had absolutely nothing to do with Fields and the Bears. Just stop. You are arguing with no one. This entire reply of yours is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Completely.

lol you mentioned week 1
you mentioned playing on the road in the rain

Yes. And for the 12th time, we were talking about Lance in week one compared to Purdy. Is this really that difficult a concept for you to grasp?

Comparing Lance to Purdy on the field is pretty lobsided at this point. One has been widely successful while the other has not.

You got me. This is the one post of the 15 I made trying to explain to Faithful what we were actually talking about where I didnt elaborate. The conversation was about the circumstances and supporting cast that Trey had in week 1 versus Purdy down the stretch. It wasnt a comparison of the two QBs. But all you would have had to do was read past that one specific post to see that, which you clearly didnt.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
LOL at being hung up ok Kap, Alex and Jimmy takes and spamming current QB threads with them.

I'm not talking about Kap or Alex. Haven't been.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Huh?

Didn't Bayarea just criticize a poster? If anyone needs a butthurt thread. But since you agree with him you ignore it.

Why is it not relevant to how posters grade qbs to look at how they speak of all the QBs? Why can't we ask for consistency?

Pretty self explanatory.

Ageee with what? I think Lance is an unproven wb with tons of potential who may be injury prone and ran the ball way too much and should be allowed to pass more.
I think Purdy is an amazing qb who is hurt and may not be the same after the injury.

How are posters relevant to the 49ers?
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

stop being a hypocrite.

you should chill on this take "pot"

. When they stop being hypocritical then we can have better conversations.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 27, 2023 at 12:26 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
LOL at being hung up ok Kap, Alex and Jimmy takes and spamming current QB threads with them.

I'm not talking about Kap or Alex. Haven't been.

Jimmy is as relevant to the discussion as either.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
LMAO

Yeah Brock losing Deebo in the middle of a game that was already a blowout is the same thing as:

-No Kittle
-Jeff Wilson Jr. instead of Christian Mccaffrey
-60% of the OL playing for the first time
-playing in the rain on the road
-week 1

Yeah, totally even.



notice the no Kittle, no CMC comments..
plus our OL is playing for the first time.. with HOF Trent btw
and again the infamous weather..

ppl can decide for themselves if this is anything worth discussing many months later or if it's just excuses for why we lost to a 3-14 team that earned pick #1
if JF can win with Pettis, EQ ST Brown, TL can win with Deebo, Trent, BA and put it in the endzone.. but he's got to improve

Dude. Your reading comprehension is painfully bad, or you are being intentionally obtuse.

That list is not a list of reasons/excuses why the 49ers lost. It is not a list of reasons why Trey didnt have a good game. It is literally just a factual list of differences between week 1 and the games Purdy played in. Period.

Stop changing the conversation or turning this into something it isnt.

You make it sound like Shanahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, Trent freaking Williams, Juice are all a group of chumps..

are they as good as the same with CMC / Kittle.. obviously no, that doesn't even need said, if that's your point..

you can't explain away the dif of how TL looked and how Brock looked through supporting cast.. that ignores how robotic TL was looking and how smooth BP was looking, that's not 100% on CMC, recall Baker played with CMC and got fired for example.

No I am not. YOU are doing that in your head.

You are making me want to stop engaging with you on this board. Its ridiculous that you are even arguing at this point. Literally all I said was the circumstances around Trey's week 1 start was vastly different than the circumstances Brock faced (and listed the circumstances). Why cant you just move along? You are literally creating an argument in your head, and arguing against facts.

if your point is the offense is better than CMC what kind of point is that.. that doesn't need said
my point stands that if you want to talk vast talent differences.. I saw one week 1, and TL had the talent around him, JF didn't.. we legit cut Pettis from our roster, ST Brown cut as well

what I hear is a lot of reasons for why BP did well and TL didn't and I don't buy it.. I will say of course we are better with CMC, but if JF can win with cut receivers no one wants vs the #1 D; then Deebo, BA, Shanahan, Trent are all filet mignon compared to what Fields had to work with..

I see 49er fans all around me disregarding our talent; for example I was laughed at when I called our tackles bookend tackles, meanwhile in the real NFL, Trent is going to Canton, and McG just got paid $87.5 million. We aren't a bad roster, even without CMC we are very very good. Bears would have traded talent with us in a heartbeat, and try imaging for a second TL with no Deebo, no BA, no Trent, no Shanny and EQ St Brown and Pettis.

Will you just stop? The conversation I was having had absolutely nothing to do with Fields and the Bears. Just stop. You are arguing with no one. This entire reply of yours is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Completely.

lol you mentioned week 1
you mentioned playing on the road in the rain

Yes. And for the 12th time, we were talking about Lance in week one compared to Purdy. Is this really that difficult a concept for you to grasp?

Comparing Lance to Purdy on the field is pretty lobsided at this point. One has been widely successful while the other has not.

You got me. This is the one post of the 15 I made trying to explain to Faithful what we were actually talking about where I didnt elaborate. The conversation was about the circumstances and supporting cast that Trey had in week 1 versus Purdy down the stretch. It wasnt a comparison of the two QBs. But all you would have had to do was read past that one specific post to see that, which you clearly didnt.

No one is going to sift through the garbage here to try to find referenced post.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Just calling people out for what they are. This is a horrible throw according to them…


but s**t like this got defended until the cows came home (for years!) from the same people lol.



stop being a hypocrite.

Bad throws are bad throws, who said any of these were good throws?
All QBs miss throws.. yet since you invoke JG, his misses are more the exception than the rule. He's a lot more accurate than TL. JG is 67%. TL is 55% and was 48% last season. Purdy as a comp also is 67% So these guys are not the same, when it comes to accuracy. TL has to work on ball placement, setting his feet, deliver consistently with accuracy. And what's that old quote, keep the wobblers and ducks to a minimum. I am of the opinion he is not there yet, but can get there, needs to work.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
stop being a hypocrite.

you should chill on this take "pot"

. When they stop being hypocritical then we can have better conversations.

You keep mentioning They. Who are They and who is We?

I am trying to figure out the factions here.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Mar 27, 2023 at 12:28 PM ]
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