Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:
Spot on!

Lurking my ass. Got your ass shot down over Alaska in your hot air balloon looking for Eskimo O lineman.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I said he's the starter if he wins the offseason competition. If he were healthy then he'd be getting first team reps at the start of OTAs

They want Lance to fail so bad. Don't even want to have a chance…because he might actually not. f**king sad.

What's Brock's leash? Two bad games? Three?

A season, I think he deserves that.

Correct.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Oh, I think you three need a friendly bet!

I'm all for having Brock ready to roll WK1. I'm not counting on it though. UCL repair/recovery to the throwing elbow isn't some guaranteed ready to go by such and such date. Dude is acting like it is by basing it off a Nick Mullens injury lol. Like Mullens was ever gonna be asked to be the WK1 starter

We all know Kyle isn't gonna toss out a player with zero legit practice reps, especially at QB. Kid needs to focus on rehabbing. It's a long as season and he's got his whole career ahead of him…rushing any of it is incredibly stupid.

The funny thing is you're all right.

There's a real shot of Brock making it back and he's proven he can just step in off the bench and perform at a high level. But we shouldn't count on that or expect that and just let it play out as it will.

But I still think you guys should make a friendly bet barring any medical setbacks, of course.

I can't say how much this mentality risks not just our results this season but in future years too. We want a completely conservative philosophy in bring brock back. DO NOT bring him back until its proven he can come back by multiple doctors and with incremental work on the field.

The problem with dumping jimmy is that we gave up our insurance policy to let Brock ease his way back in while maintaining good results. Oh well que sera sera. Our decision can't be used to condone rash medical decisions.

I would put Brock on a snap count AND a throw count, both for preseason and for live action. Don't mess with him AT ALL.

My 2c.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I can't say how much this mentality risks not just our results this season but in future years too. We want a completely conservative philosophy in bring brock back. DO NOT bring him back until its proven he can come back by multiple doctors and with incremental work on the field.

The problem with dumping jimmy is that we gave up our insurance policy to let Brock ease his way back in while maintaining good results. Oh well que sera sera. Our decision can't be used to condone rash medical decisions.

I would put Brock on a snap count AND a throw count, both for preseason and for live action. Don't mess with him AT ALL.

My 2c.

Well, we have two things working as insurance policies for any delays in Brock's return:

1. We have Trey Lance who could take steps and improve and be an adequate fill-in starter or better.
2. We have Sam Darnold in what could be an equivalent role to what Jimmy was last year. Nobody could argue a legitimate preference for Darnold over Jimmy based on their past performances, but I would not be surprised to see him play much better here (if needed) given everything that surrounds him... especially in a short term role.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I can't say how much this mentality risks not just our results this season but in future years too. We want a completely conservative philosophy in bring brock back. DO NOT bring him back until its proven he can come back by multiple doctors and with incremental work on the field.

The problem with dumping jimmy is that we gave up our insurance policy to let Brock ease his way back in while maintaining good results. Oh well que sera sera. Our decision can't be used to condone rash medical decisions.

I would put Brock on a snap count AND a throw count, both for preseason and for live action. Don't mess with him AT ALL.

My 2c.

Jimmy was never coming back as a 23 mil a year insurance policy.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You don't even want his name mentioned in discussions when it's a possibility that he could be back for week 1 lol. You have to go to a 38 year old (who tore 3 elbow tendons, so not quite the same) to doubt Brock. Idk why you feel the need to do that if you want him ready for week 1

No it's to shows you one thing isn't the same as the other…you have no idea how many tendons Brock tore…the only thing that's been stated is a full tear of the UCL.

Stop with the propaganda s**t…it has zero to do with doubting Brock. It's surgery, not playing on the field. Stop being dumb about it.

the probability of him not being the starter WK1 is much higher. Yet here you are acting like it's all no big deal.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
A season, I think he deserves that.

Deserves it? Why? He played well a couple games. You're going full blown Jimmy G mode 2.0 with this stuff.

Originally posted by NCommand:
The funny thing is you're all right.

There's a real shot of Brock making it back and he's proven he can just step in off the bench and perform at a high level. But we shouldn't count on that or expect that and just let it play out as it will.

But I still think you guys should make a friendly bet barring any medical setbacks, of course.

Were we you saying this about every other single injury we've had here lol?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Isn't it what we should want though? Why are we fighting people that want this?

Shouldn't you be rooting for Lance to play well too? Why can't that be a thing? You're in this thread every day and you hate him.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Haha and what the f**k do you do in here?! I haven't read on objectivity sensible post from you or Charlie. You both are incredibly biased. It's all subjective take nonsense.

Reports are 6 months to be full go (maybe). That's been the timeline and it's not given it will be just that. Many professionals have said the same…brock has to have absolutely zero setbacks to make it to week 1.

#49ers QB Brock Purdy is set to undergo surgery on his right elbow today

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Our panel of doctors detail his recovery timeline

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— David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc (@ProFootballDoc) March 3, 2023

My wife is a PT, DPT…she's seen these injuries and worked on the recovery. She called the injury the moment it happened…It's not some set in stone TL for recovery. It's not oh here you go it's been 6 months you're now cleared and 100%. It's constant rehab and building back up. It's Brock's throwing elbow…that's his future and without it he's has no career. Why you wouldn't want that to be 100% and have him prepared before tossing him out there is beyond me.

and yes I keep repeating myself because you keep blathering on about nothing. No one said Lance should start over Brock. Yet you keep repeating it like you're illiterate. Stop it.

I got no problem if Brock starts, so long as he's had the proper build up and is 100% ready. Tossing him out there without practicing (full on practices) in training camp is dumb.

Also, Brock's swelling seemed to take longer to subside than was expected, which postponed the surgery. Same thing could happen during the healing process.
I seen that clip where it was said that the reporter believes that they could put Brock out there with his arm strength at 70% or 80% (or whatever he said) because they played jimmy at less then 100%, however, I don't believe that, (which is only my opinion), but why not wait an extra month (or whatever it is) for him to be 100%?

Seems to me, there is a possibility that if Lance is starting (which in my opinion will happen), we seem to have terrible luck at keeping our QB's healthy and will need more then one QB.

Agreed

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Oh, I think you three need a friendly bet!

I'm all for having Brock ready to roll WK1. I'm not counting on it though. UCL repair/recovery to the throwing elbow isn't some guaranteed ready to go by such and such date. Dude is acting like it is by basing it off a Nick Mullens injury lol. Like Mullens was ever gonna be asked to be the WK1 starter

We all know Kyle isn't gonna toss out a player with zero legit practice reps, especially at QB. Kid needs to focus on rehabbing. It's a long as season and he's got his whole career ahead of him…rushing any of it is incredibly stupid.

The funny thing is you're all right.

There's a real shot of Brock making it back and he's proven he can just step in off the bench and perform at a high level. But we shouldn't count on that or expect that and just let it play out as it will.

But I still think you guys should make a friendly bet barring any medical setbacks, of course.

I can't say how much this mentality risks not just our results this season but in future years too. We want a completely conservative philosophy in bring brock back. DO NOT bring him back until its proven he can come back by multiple doctors and with incremental work on the field.

The problem with dumping jimmy is that we gave up our insurance policy to let Brock ease his way back in while maintaining good results. Oh well que sera sera. Our decision can't be used to condone rash medical decisions.

I would put Brock on a snap count AND a throw count, both for preseason and for live action. Don't mess with him AT ALL.

My 2c.

The insurance policy is Lance. Lance is not nearly as bad as you pretend, and he could hold the fort.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Spot on!

Lurking my ass. Got your ass shot down over Alaska in your hot air balloon looking for Eskimo O lineman.

Haha. I've tapped out the Pacific Islanders...on to Alaska!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
The funny thing is you're all right.

There's a real shot of Brock making it back and he's proven he can just step in off the bench and perform at a high level. But we shouldn't count on that or expect that and just let it play out as it will.

But I still think you guys should make a friendly bet barring any medical setbacks, of course.

Were we you saying this about every other single injury we've had here lol?

Right. But this time we have a real backup plan so there isn't the need to rush anything here. Lance got his shot because Jimmy couldn't stay healthy. Jimmy got another shot because Lance couldn't stay healthy. Brock got a shot because neither could stay healthy. Now Lance is getting a shot because Brock couldn't stay healthy and Jimmy bolted. Whomever is healthy and plays well, wins the job...until he's hurt again. LOL

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
If Brock isn't ready then he's not ready. I think he will be. I think Mullens is the only other example with the internal brace so he wouldn't be breaking any records. You guys are very opposed to any suggestion that Brock could be ready

You've very opposed to the idea that Brock has a very good chance of not being ready WK1…like many doctors have stated. You won't even accept the fact that Lance will be taking damn near every first team rep all through every camp this off season. You act like that doesn't matter, when in reality it does.

Brock played well when given the opportunity. He isn't prime Rogers who will be handed back the starting gig no matter what. Lance will have his opportunity through camp and more than likely WK1. Brock's focus isn't playing right now, it's getting healthy and going from there. Pretending you know the outcome of his recovery is fake news. We all hope for the best and I'm sure he will be fine when he's ready…whenever that will be. Until then be a fan of the team by supporting Lance. I know that hard for you, but having two good QBs is a positive.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
If Brock isn't ready then he's not ready. I think he will be. I think Mullens is the only other example with the internal brace so he wouldn't be breaking any records. You guys are very opposed to any suggestion that Brock could be ready

Once again. Do you want us to wait for Brock or do you want us to use this valuable offseason time to prep Trey and or Darnold for this upcoming season? I believe Brock will be ready to be full go but I also know we can't wait all off-season to award him the week one start without using the offseason in order to prep him to do so

Do you want us to wait on Brock or do you want us to prep the guys we have healthy to start week one?