Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Oh, I think you three need a friendly bet!

I'm all for having Brock ready to roll WK1. I'm not counting on it though. UCL repair/recovery to the throwing elbow isn't some guaranteed ready to go by such and such date. Dude is acting like it is by basing it off a Nick Mullens injury lol. Like Mullens was ever gonna be asked to be the WK1 starter

We all know Kyle isn't gonna toss out a player with zero legit practice reps, especially at QB. Kid needs to focus on rehabbing. It's a long as season and he's got his whole career ahead of him…rushing any of it is incredibly stupid.

The funny thing is you're all right.

There's a real shot of Brock making it back and he's proven he can just step in off the bench and perform at a high level. But we shouldn't count on that or expect that and just let it play out as it will.

But I still think you guys should make a friendly bet barring any medical setbacks, of course.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NCommand:
It's a QB thread, so what are we fighting about?

Where the F you been? Haven't seen anything from you in a while. Though I don't visit the OL thread.

Just taking a break from posting...lurking though.

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Spot on!

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Again no one is talking about Brock. Stop it. He CAN NOT play football right now and isn't gonna be able to be the week 1 starter.

It's like people actually want to see a young talent kid play football…shocker. If Brock was 100% he would be the starter. He's not.

There is a chance Brock is back week 1. Based on Mullens recovery I too think Brock will be the starter week 1. Just because you don't want him to recover in time doesn't mean it will not happen.

Honestly, this NYniner guy doesn't know what he is taking about. Lol he just repeats the same thing over and over again. You can explain to him till your blue in the face that brock should be 100% healed up and ready to go week 1 and he will keep saying he doesn't matter and won't be ready. Lmao it's like talking to a parrot.

the only way Brock isn't 100% healed up and ready to go on game day week 1 is if he has setbacks with his recovery. That's literally the only way. Its very clear that he has spent zero time understanding the rehab process for Brock. This guy is under the assumption that Brock can't and won't do anything for the next 6 months and will take another few months/weeks to get ready to play. lol it's comical

More to it that being 100% and healed up. There's getting into football shape. Training camp. Getting your head right. Getting enough reps. We all saw Jimmy against Denver.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Didn't know about Big Ben but I'd also expect recovery from surgery to be different for a guy in his late 30s compared to the other examples. Why is that the one you want to go off of? Do you not want Brock ready for week 1?

Im being realistic. No need to deflect, I said multiple times I would love for Brock to be 100% heading into training camp.

I'm listening to what doctors are saying…it's not something that is just automatically good to go on a certain date. There's a massive difference between throwing a couple footballs (being cleared to throw) and playing in a NFL football game. We also have no clue what he will be after this. Big Ben went from leading the league in passing yards his last full season before his UCL injury to being a shell of himself. His YPA was down 1.5 yards and he was dinking and dunking passes his last two seasons…he also said he felt better than ever after his surgery and his arm talent was higher than Brock's to start with.

Brock could also just be good to go in 5 months and we're all pumped to have multiple young QBs ready to play…acting like it's a given he's the starter WK1 is nice, but probably not likely… So yeah support Lance and hope he can develop and play well all the same. No idea what that's so hard for you to accept.

You don't even want his name mentioned in discussions when it's a possibility that he could be back for week 1 lol. You have to go to a 38 year old (who tore 3 elbow tendons, so not quite the same) to doubt Brock. Idk why you feel the need to do that if you want him ready for week 1

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Delhimme said he was better than ever after 6 months, and he went through Tommy John. Elbow recovery for QBs doesn't seem to be as rigorous as it is for pitchers.

Jake Delhomme had the Tommy John surgery and said his arm was "better than ever" six months later. Panthers finished 12-4 that next season (2008) and Delhomme started all 16 games.

— Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) September 16, 2019

One can hope this is like getting bit by a radioactive spider, or a vampire.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I said he's the starter if he wins the offseason competition. If he were healthy then he'd be getting first team reps at the start of OTAs

They want Lance to fail so bad. Don't even want to have a chance…because he might actually not. f**king sad.

What's Brock's leash? Two bad games? Three?

A season, I think he deserves that.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
A season, I think he deserves that.

So does Lance

Originally posted by NCommand:

The funny thing is you're all right.

There's a real shot of Brock making it back and he's proven he can just step in off the bench and perform at a high level. But we shouldn't count on that or expect that and just let it play out as it will.

But I still think you guys should make a friendly bet barring any medical setbacks, of course.

Isn't it what we should want though? Why are we fighting people that want this?

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
A season, I think he deserves that.

So does Lance

Lance deserves a season?? Why, what has he done to deserve it??

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Isn't it what we should want though? Why are we fighting people that want this?

Do you want Kyle to wait all off-season hoping Brock can be ready to win week one vs an opponent he hasn't prepared with the team for all offseason

Do you want Kyle to wait? You do realize this is a very competitive league right?

Theres an ongoing competition for QB1 taking place here soon and from that we're going to select a guy to get ready for week 1. My money is on Trey to start this season and it's up to him to win or lose from there

I'm just telling you Kyle won't wait on Brock

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Isn't it what we should want though? Why are we fighting people that want this?

Do you want Kyle to wait all off-season hoping Brock can be ready to win week one vs an opponent he hasn't prepared with the team for all offseason

Do you want Kyle to wait? You do realize this is a very competitive league right?

Theres an ongoing competition for QB1 taking place here soon and from that we're going to select a guy to get ready for week 1. My money is on Trey to start this season and it's up to him to win or lose from there

I'm just telling you Kyle won't wait on Brock

Don't you want Brock to heal like Mullens so Kyle won't have to wait?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NCommand:
The funny thing is you're all right.

There's a real shot of Brock making it back and he's proven he can just step in off the bench and perform at a high level. But we shouldn't count on that or expect that and just let it play out as it will.

But I still think you guys should make a friendly bet barring any medical setbacks, of course.

Isn't it what we should want though? Why are we fighting people that want this?

I think after 10 years straight of getting hammered by injuries maybe NY85 is finally learning NOT to count on the best possible outcome.

But yes, we should! And let's hope that's real life.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Don't you want Brock to heal like Mullens so Kyle won't have to wait?

You just got caught with your pants down trolling right here

I in the present tense want Brock to break recovery records. I'm the past tense I want first Trey to win it all then Jimmy then Brock. Had either occurred we'd have our QB1 settled already

I have said this already and now I've answered the question once more so I pose my original question.

Do you want us to wait on Brock all offseason thus allowing other teams to get the jump on us OR do you want us to get either Trey or Darnold ready for week 1?

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Don't you want Brock to heal like Mullens so Kyle won't have to wait?

You just got caught with your pants down trolling right here

I in the present tense want Brock to break recovery records. I'm the past tense I want first Trey to win it all then Jimmy then Brock. Had either occurred we'd have our QB1 settled already

I have said this already and now I've answered the question once more so I pose my original question.

Do you want us to wait on Brock all offseason thus allowing other teams to get the jump on us OR do you want us to get either Trey or Darnold ready for week 1?

If Brock isn't ready then he's not ready. I think he will be. I think Mullens is the only other example with the internal brace so he wouldn't be breaking any records. You guys are very opposed to any suggestion that Brock could be ready

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Haha and what the f**k do you do in here?! I haven't read on objectivity sensible post from you or Charlie. You both are incredibly biased. It's all subjective take nonsense.

Reports are 6 months to be full go (maybe). That's been the timeline and it's not given it will be just that. Many professionals have said the same…brock has to have absolutely zero setbacks to make it to week 1.

#49ers QB Brock Purdy is set to undergo surgery on his right elbow today

Will he be ready for training camp? Week 1?

Our panel of doctors detail his recovery timeline

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— Sports Injury Central (@SICscore) March 10, 2023

Doubt additional permanent damage for #BrockPurdy.
However, been saying for awhile the timeline seems optimisitic (and that was before the surgery delay).https://t.co/BDTB7ftRbQ https://t.co/6gTr8VBafW

— David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc (@ProFootballDoc) March 3, 2023

My wife is a PT, DPT…she's seen these injuries and worked on the recovery. She called the injury the moment it happened…It's not some set in stone TL for recovery. It's not oh here you go it's been 6 months you're now cleared and 100%. It's constant rehab and building back up. It's Brock's throwing elbow…that's his future and without it he's has no career. Why you wouldn't want that to be 100% and have him prepared before tossing him out there is beyond me.

and yes I keep repeating myself because you keep blathering on about nothing. No one said Lance should start over Brock. Yet you keep repeating it like you're illiterate. Stop it.

I got no problem if Brock starts, so long as he's had the proper build up and is 100% ready. Tossing him out there without practicing (full on practices) in training camp is dumb.

Also, Brock's swelling seemed to take longer to subside than was expected, which postponed the surgery. Same thing could happen during the healing process.
I seen that clip where it was said that the reporter believes that they could put Brock out there with his arm strength at 70% or 80% (or whatever he said) because they played jimmy at less then 100%, however, I don't believe that, (which is only my opinion), but why not wait an extra month (or whatever it is) for him to be 100%?

Seems to me, there is a possibility that if Lance is starting (which in my opinion will happen), we seem to have terrible luck at keeping our QB's healthy and will need more then one QB.