Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not set in stone because we don't know how his recovery will go yet. You're making it sound like Purdy is sitting on the couch for the next six months and will be doing nothing.

brock will be throwing and working out for months before the season starts. If his recovery goes well, he could very well be 100% for week 1. That's not my opinion, that's from the medical doctors.

But this is an offseason competition that Brock Purdy won't be able to participate in. He's gonna be working and fighting just to be fully reinstated with no restrictions

Brock won't be taking first team reps or starting any preseason games for that matter. He won't be full go until game week. Are you understanding?

Brock isn't part of the discussion. Why people are trying to force it is beyond me. If he was 100% he'd be QB1 right now. He's not and it's not some easy recovery that we have a ton of other examples to look at.

His job is to get healthy, not rush to be somewhat playable for WK1. Why is this hard for people to get?

Originally posted by Goatie:
The negativity about Lance in the media has nothing to do with FO tactics before the draft. It is because Lance has been nothing but underwhelming in the opportunities he has been given. Unlike Purdy and before him Garoppolo, Lance did not hit the ground winning. That is what is expected from the 3rd pick in the draft.

Darnold is better on paper and would not be surprised if he was the starter in game one if Purdy was still not cleared to play.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What opportuniries has Trey really been given?He started 4 games. One of them was in a monsoon, one of them he played less than a quarter, and one of them he won a must win game in week 17. Lawrence was the #1 overall pick and it took him almost his entire rookie season to show why he was the #1 overall pick. Fields was beyond horrible his rookie season and he started 10 games. Josh Allen it took him 3 years. If he was on the Niners, Fans would have demanded they cut him in year 2.

It takes time. I don't get why fans can't see that. If this front office let's Trey go they better damn sure win the SB in the next 2 years or it's a complete failure.

Trevor Lawrence had 12 TD's and 17 INT's his rookie season. Hs rating was 71.9

Justin Fields had 7 TD's 10 INT's his rookie season and his rating was 73.2

Josh Allen had 10 TD's and 12 INT's his rookie season and his rating was 67.9. Year 2 he had 20 TD's and 9 INT's and rating was 85.3. Still not great.

But Trey is asked to play like an MVP candidate week 1.

Right, I can show 100 passing attempts from Lawrence that were pure trash his his rookie season. Same with Allen/hurts/fields etc. all given time to develop.

anyone labeling that enough time…never wanted him to be successful, some of that s**t had more to do with things outside of playing football (regardless of what they say).

Originally posted by Goatie:
The negativity about Lance in the media has nothing to do with FO tactics before the draft. It is because Lance has been nothing but underwhelming in the opportunities he has been given. Unlike Purdy and before him Garoppolo, Lance did not hit the ground winning. That is what is expected from the 3rd pick in the draft.

Darnold is better on paper and would not be surprised if he was the starter in game one if Purdy was still not cleared to play.

So Trey can be cut amirite?

Jimmy sure didn't want that money did he.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not set in stone because we don't know how his recovery will go yet. You're making it sound like Purdy is sitting on the couch for the next six months and will be doing nothing.

brock will be throwing and working out for months before the season starts. If his recovery goes well, he could very well be 100% for week 1. That's not my opinion, that's from the medical doctors.

But this is an offseason competition that Brock Purdy won't be able to participate in. He's gonna be working and fighting just to be fully reinstated with no restrictions

Brock won't be taking first team reps or starting any preseason games for that matter. He won't be full go until game week. Are you understanding?

I think thats part of the disconnect between you and I. You view it as they're competing for the starting gig against each other.

i view it as - it's Purdys job and Lance is filling in for him until he is healthy.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What opportuniries has Trey really been given?He started 4 games. One of them was in a monsoon, one of them he played less than a quarter, and one of them he won a must win game in week 17. Lawrence was the #1 overall pick and it took him almost his entire rookie season to show why he was the #1 overall pick. Fields was beyond horrible his rookie season and he started 10 games. Josh Allen it took him 3 years. If he was on the Niners, Fans would have demanded they cut him in year 2.

It takes time. I don't get why fans can't see that. If this front office let's Trey go they better damn sure win the SB in the next 2 years or it's a complete failure.

Trevor Lawrence had 12 TD's and 17 INT's his rookie season. Hs rating was 71.9

Justin Fields had 7 TD's 10 INT's his rookie season and his rating was 73.2

Josh Allen had 10 TD's and 12 INT's his rookie season and his rating was 67.9. Year 2 he had 20 TD's and 9 INT's and rating was 85.3. Still not great.

But Trey is asked to play like an MVP candidate week 1.

Right, I can show 100 passing attempts from Lawrence that were pure trash his his rookie season. Same with Allen/hurts/fields etc. all given time to develop.

anyone labeling that enough time…never wanted him to be successful, some of that s**t had more to do with things outside of playing football (regardless of what they say).

I don't view it as anything other than - someone came in and blew the doors off the place. That usually ends the whole giving people opportunities to show that they can play at a high level.

when you have one guy that has demonstrated nothing but playing at an incredibly high level and one guy who hasn't (especially when the sample sizes are somewhat similar) - this isn't a charity. Lol it's the NFL and time isn't something you get.

its not a knock on lance, it's a credit to how great Purdy was.

and yes, Lance has to play like an MVP because the other guy in the building is? Lol idk why that's so outlandish? If Purdy was average or mediocre - then Of course it's a different conversation.

its like people care more about high draft picks working out than playing someone who has played like nothing but a star. Btw he did it without needing all the first team reps in camp or a bunch of years of starts to learn how to play football.

Originally posted by Goatie:
The negativity about Lance in the media has nothing to do with FO tactics before the draft. It is because Lance has been nothing but underwhelming in the opportunities he has been given. Unlike Purdy and before him Garoppolo, Lance did not hit the ground winning. That is what is expected from the 3rd pick in the draft.

Darnold is better on paper and would not be surprised if he was the starter in game one if Purdy was still not cleared to play.

Maybe we can trade Trey for Jimmy sometime next week? What say you?

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think thats part of the disconnect between you and I. You view it as they're competing for the starting gig against each other.

i view it as - it's Purdys job and Lance is filling in for him until he is healthy.

I told you that Brock would only avoid offseason competition with a Super Bowl win. Jimmy already got us there and he's out. This summer we would have had a competition and we still do. It's between Lance and Darnold as Brock rehabs

Originally posted by tankle104:
I don't view it as anything other than - someone came in and blew the doors off the place. That usually ends the whole giving people opportunities to show that they can play at a high level.

when you have one guy that has demonstrated nothing but playing at an incredibly high level and one guy who hasn't (especially when the sample sizes are somewhat similar) - this isn't a charity. Lol it's the NFL and time isn't something you get.

its not a knock on lance, it's a credit to how great Purdy was.

and yes, Lance has to play like an MVP because the other guy in the building is? Lol idk why that's so outlandish? If Purdy was average or mediocre - then Of course it's a different conversation.

its like people care more about high draft picks working out than playing someone who has played like nothing but a star. Btw he did it without needing all the first team reps in camp or a bunch of years of starts to learn how to play football.

Again no one is talking about Brock. Stop it. He CAN NOT play football right now and isn't gonna be able to be the week 1 starter.

It's like people actually want to see a young talent kid play football…shocker. If Brock was 100% he would be the starter. He's not.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not set in stone because we don't know how his recovery will go yet. You're making it sound like Purdy is sitting on the couch for the next six months and will be doing nothing.

brock will be throwing and working out for months before the season starts. If his recovery goes well, he could very well be 100% for week 1. That's not my opinion, that's from the medical doctors.

But this is an offseason competition that Brock Purdy won't be able to participate in. He's gonna be working and fighting just to be fully reinstated with no restrictions

Brock won't be taking first team reps or starting any preseason games for that matter. He won't be full go until game week. Are you understanding?

I think thats part of the disconnect between you and I. You view it as they're competing for the starting gig against each other.

i view it as - it's Purdys job and Lance is filling in for him until he is healthy.

Oh it's definitely a competition. If Lance shows a lot of progress and the team is winning he is taking the job back. If he doesn't, he's filling in until Purdy is ready. That inherently makes it a competition.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Again no one is talking about Brock. Stop it. He CAN NOT play football right now and isn't gonna be able to be the week 1 starter.

It's like people actually want to see a young talent kid play football…shocker. If Brock was 100% he would be the starter. He's not.

There is a chance Brock is back week 1. Based on Mullens recovery I too think Brock will be the starter week 1. Just because you don't want him to recover in time doesn't mean it will not happen.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Goatie:
The negativity about Lance in the media has nothing to do with FO tactics before the draft. It is because Lance has been nothing but underwhelming in the opportunities he has been given. Unlike Purdy and before him Garoppolo, Lance did not hit the ground winning. That is what is expected from the 3rd pick in the draft.

Darnold is better on paper and would not be surprised if he was the starter in game one if Purdy was still not cleared to play.

Maybe we can trade Trey for Jimmy sometime next week? What say you?

I'm surprised he's still posting on the wz tbh

Delhimme said he was better than ever after 6 months, and he went through Tommy John. Elbow recovery for QBs doesn't seem to be as rigorous as it is for pitchers.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
There is a chance Brock is back week 1. Based on Mullens recovery I too think Brock will be the starter week 1. Just because you don't want him to recover in time doesn't mean it will not happen.

Oh piss off with the I don't want him to recover b******t. I want him to be 100%. I want him to be in football shape. I want him to actually practice and prepare like he's the QB1.

just because you hate Lance doesn't mean he can't play or you have to rush anything. If you feel Brock is the long-term FQB or the next Montana 2.0…then there's absolutely nothing wrong with giving him all the time he needs to be well prepared to play. his long-term future is much more important. Until then there's not point in talking about him. He's recovering. Lance is the QB1 and will have damn near every first team rep through 99% of all the mini camps and TC. That s**t matters when getting ready for the football season. So instead of being an anti-lance whiner. Support the kid.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Again no one is talking about Brock. Stop it. He CAN NOT play football right now and isn't gonna be able to be the week 1 starter.

It's like people actually want to see a young talent kid play football…shocker. If Brock was 100% he would be the starter. He's not.

There is a chance Brock is back week 1. Based on Mullens recovery I too think Brock will be the starter week 1. Just because you don't want him to recover in time doesn't mean it will not happen.

Honestly, this NYniner guy doesn't know what he is taking about. Lol he just repeats the same thing over and over again. You can explain to him till your blue in the face that brock should be 100% healed up and ready to go week 1 and he will keep saying he doesn't matter and won't be ready. Lmao it's like talking to a parrot.

the only way Brock isn't 100% healed up and ready to go on game day week 1 is if he has setbacks with his recovery. That's literally the only way. Its very clear that he has spent zero time understanding the rehab process for Brock. This guy is under the assumption that Brock can't and won't do anything for the next 6 months and will take another few months/weeks to get ready to play. lol it's comical