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Originally posted by tankle104:
I was ready to move on from Jimmy too. I really liked him, still do, but you're right that his limitations cost us.

lol that was actually a good comeback with all our QBs getting broken. That made me laugh. Hahaha I'm mainly just giving you a hard time.

i really would be thrilled if either one of us are right - I think Purdy can become our next great qb and you think lance. Idc who is right, I just hope one of us are.

I was thinking it could be Purdy as well with the run he was on bu he got hurt so the way the math works out Trey is now gonna get his shot. If he fails Brock is gonna be reinserted and I think we can win with either guy and be competitive with Darnold too
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  • mayo49
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm just glad we've got two guys with talent and are still very young.

And CHEAP.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I was ready to move on from Jimmy too. I really liked him, still do, but you're right that his limitations cost us.

lol that was actually a good comeback with all our QBs getting broken. That made me laugh. Hahaha I'm mainly just giving you a hard time.

i really would be thrilled if either one of us are right - I think Purdy can become our next great qb and you think lance. Idc who is right, I just hope one of us are.

I was thinking it could be Purdy as well with the run he was on bu he got hurt so the way the math works out Trey is now gonna get his shot. If he fails Brock is gonna be reinserted and I think we can win with either guy and be competitive with Darnold too

I'd be willing to bet that we could get at least 10 wins with darnold. He's super talented and young, couple that with our staff/players.

I'd say that at this point of the off season, you're most likely right that Lance starts the season. I'm just saying that isn't set in stone yet. There is a very real chance that Purdy starts week 1 if his recovery goes well.

a doctor said that it was like a 1/10000 chance that Purdy gets this injury. He had to be at a very specific point in a throw for it to happen. That's our damn luck. Story of our last 6 season. Lol

id be sad if he was playing though. It would mean everyone else got broken again 😭😭
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 18, 2023 at 12:24 PM ]
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
There was no different playbook. Brock just took the shots Jimmy didn't consistently take. Which in turned opened up the run game and made the total offense more explosive.

Yup. Brock was ballsy had the swagger and the game. I like Brock and he's a starter, not a backup and had he won it all or stayed healthy he'd be getting first team reps this summer I do believe. If he's won he'd be unquestioned starter if healthy. If he hadn't he'd be getting first team reps in a summer competition

Now since he's hurt, Trey is at bat with Darnold on deck with Brock on the training table
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd be willing to bet that we could get at least 10 wins with darnold. He's super talented and young, couple that with our staff/players.

I'd say that at this point of the off season, you're most likely right that Lance starts the season. I'm just saying that isn't set in stone yet. There is a very real chance that Purdy starts week 1 if his recovery goes well.

a doctor said that it was like a 1/10000 chance that Purdy gets this injury. He had to be at a very specific point in a throw for it to happen. That's our damn luck. Story of our last 6 season. Lol

id be sad if he was playing though. It would mean everyone else got broken again 😭😭
It ain't set in stone because Trey ain't Peyton Manning and Brock is recovering and Trey will still have to beat out Darnold

I just have 90% confidence Brock is gonna be on time with his recovery which puts him too late to start week one over a Trey Lance that's already beaten out Darnold this offseason

I feel that the offseason winner will start week one as Brock gets a few full week full go practices post medical clearance and then depending on if we're winning or losing we will go from there
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Mar 18, 2023 at 4:24 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd be willing to bet that we could get at least 10 wins with darnold. He's super talented and young, couple that with our staff/players.

I'd say that at this point of the off season, you're most likely right that Lance starts the season. I'm just saying that isn't set in stone yet. There is a very real chance that Purdy starts week 1 if his recovery goes well.

a doctor said that it was like a 1/10000 chance that Purdy gets this injury. He had to be at a very specific point in a throw for it to happen. That's our damn luck. Story of our last 6 season. Lol

id be sad if he was playing though. It would mean everyone else got broken again 😭😭

This is our year. I believe that we can win it all with any of our QBs but that the game changes depending on who is under center. I just have that much faith in this roster and these coaches
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Mar 18, 2023 at 4:25 PM ]
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd be willing to bet that we could get at least 10 wins with darnold. He's super talented and young, couple that with our staff/players.

I'd say that at this point of the off season, you're most likely right that Lance starts the season. I'm just saying that isn't set in stone yet. There is a very real chance that Purdy starts week 1 if his recovery goes well.

a doctor said that it was like a 1/10000 chance that Purdy gets this injury. He had to be at a very specific point in a throw for it to happen. That's our damn luck. Story of our last 6 season. Lol

id be sad if he was playing though. It would mean everyone else got broken again 😭😭
It ain't set in stone because Trey ain't Peyton Manning and Brock is recovering and Trey will still have to beat out Darnold

I just have 90% confidence Brock is gonna be on time with his recovery which puts him too late to start week one over a Trey Lance that's already beaten out Darnold this offseason

I feel that the offseason winner will start week one as Brock gets a few full wee full go practices post medical clearance and then depending on if we're winning or losing we will go from there

It's not set in stone because we don't know how his recovery will go yet. You're making it sound like Purdy is sitting on the couch for the next six months and will be doing nothing.

brock will be throwing and working out for months before the season starts. If his recovery goes well, he could very well be 100% for week 1. That's not my opinion, that's from the medical doctors.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'd be willing to bet that we could get at least 10 wins with darnold. He's super talented and young, couple that with our staff/players.

I'd say that at this point of the off season, you're most likely right that Lance starts the season. I'm just saying that isn't set in stone yet. There is a very real chance that Purdy starts week 1 if his recovery goes well.

a doctor said that it was like a 1/10000 chance that Purdy gets this injury. He had to be at a very specific point in a throw for it to happen. That's our damn luck. Story of our last 6 season. Lol

id be sad if he was playing though. It would mean everyone else got broken again 😭😭

This is our year. I believe that we can win it all with any of our QBs by that the game changes depending on who is under center. I just have that much faith in this roster and these coaches

I think that the fact we signed Hargreaves signals that they front office thinks it our year too. If we stay healthy, i think we have the best chance in the league.
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It makes no difference who the QB is. If the offense isn't clicking then you go the next guy. Purdy had a nice run but he's not someone who can rest on his past record. A number one pick would have a little longer leash but when you're the last man taken you have to keep producing. It's a shame that he has to do it while trying to recover from surgery.
While true, that leash gets a lot shorter when you have another guy waiting in the wings who has shown he can produce at a high level.

I don't recall who the writer was but someone said that Shanahan seemed like a kid with a new toy with Purdy. He could call whatever play might win without regard to what the QB might be capable of doing.

I've heard other posters say similar things but have yet to see an example. The only times I've seen Kyle run different plays based on the QB is when Trey was in. Kyle couldn't and wouldn't call all of the RPOs and QB runs with Purdy or Jimmy because they don't have the running ability. So are you saying Kyle was able to call pass plays for Purdy that he couldn't with Lance or Jimmy?

Kyle made the comment in response to a reporter's question about how he went about calling plays with Purdy at QB. There was not a direct statement that Purdy was better able to execute the full playbook, however from the context it seemed clear that Kyle was delighted with the results.

As to what plays Kyle might call with different QBs, it seems obvious he won't call QB Power with Purdy. OTOH, Purdy's grasp of the game is beyond that of Lance. Hence, Kyle might call pass plays that require a situational awareness that Lance has not yet acquired, or at least to the degree we have been able to observe.

At another time, there was a statement made that Purdy was so into the game plan that he knew what play Kyle would call before he made it or words to that effect.

I don't care to go into a comparative debate of Lance vs Purdy. There will be plenty of time to evaluate that for ourselves between now and September. I will only remind you that observers across the league have observed that Purdy has an awareness that is far beyond his years in the league. So there is that.
Originally posted by dj43:
Kyle made the comment in response to a reporter's question about how he went about calling plays with Purdy at QB. There was not a direct statement that Purdy was better able to execute the full playbook, however from the context it seemed clear that Kyle was delighted with the results.

As to what plays Kyle might call with different QBs, it seems obvious he won't call QB Power with Purdy. OTOH, Purdy's grasp of the game is beyond that of Lance. Hence, Kyle might call pass plays that require a situational awareness that Lance has not yet acquired, or at least to the degree we have been able to observe.

At another time, there was a statement made that Purdy was so into the game plan that he knew what play Kyle would call before he made it or words to that effect.

I don't care to go into a comparative debate of Lance vs Purdy. There will be plenty of time to evaluate that for ourselves between now and September. I will only remind you that observers across the league have observed that Purdy has an awareness that is far beyond his years in the league. So there is that.

Kyle also called a play that he hasn't called in years and Purdy executed it. That's incredible. Dude Is dedicated. Lol it wasn't part of the game plan and Purdy hit him for a tuddie!

it was to Aiyuk where he did a double move and broke towards the end zone.

that's the kind of stuff that Kyle likes - he doesn't want to be hamstrung by anything and if it's in there, he expects you to be ready. I give Lance the benefit of the doubt he is like that but I think it says a lot that it's been raves about.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 18, 2023 at 1:45 PM ]
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Season 3 Episode 1 of Ted Lasso applies perfectly to Trey Lance situation.

All these reporters, bloggers who now call themselves "content creators" - "fans" who think/hope he'll fail - it's all poop and belongs in the sewer.

Trey just needs to be Trey. Keep working and just focus on the journey. Things will fall in place if he performs. Lynch and Shanahan drafted him at 3 for a reason. They want him to succeed as much as anyone and if he plays at a high level - what is said today...who is projected starter....all that s**t...means f**k all.

Such a great show. So bummed its only a 3 season show.

Hoping popularity of the show will drive them to do another season. Definitely think there will be a spin-off at some point.

There is just so much negativity around Lance in the media - it's insane. I believe bc 49ers fooled the media into believing that they were going to draft Mac - they're now doing everything they can to derail Trey so they can say that they were right all along.
[ Edited by 4ML on Mar 18, 2023 at 3:21 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not set in stone because we don't know how his recovery will go yet. You're making it sound like Purdy is sitting on the couch for the next six months and will be doing nothing.

brock will be throwing and working out for months before the season starts. If his recovery goes well, he could very well be 100% for week 1. That's not my opinion, that's from the medical doctors.

But this is an offseason competition that Brock Purdy won't be able to participate in. He's gonna be working and fighting just to be fully reinstated with no restrictions

Brock won't be taking first team reps or starting any preseason games for that matter. He won't be full go until game week. Are you understanding?
Originally posted by 4ML:
Hoping popularity of the show will drive them to do another season. Definitely think there will be a spin-off at some point.

There is just so much negativity around Lance in the media - it's insane. I believe bc 49ers fooled the media into believing that they were going to draft Mac - they're now doing everything they can to derail Trey so they can say that they were right all along.

The media were stupid because you don't make that type of trade up for Mac Jones who I believed strongly there'd be no 3 month out trade up to 3 prior to draft day for. I knew that trade up was for one of Fields or Lance. Mac Jones was a draft day trade up at best well after the first three picks went down

I knew this because without any elite measurables or traits that Mac Jones wasn't a prospect worthy of moving that high up for that early in the cycle. They had a lot of people convinced but I never was because it just didn't make sense to waste draft capital so foolishly for Mac Jones who'd be lucky to have a career significantly better than Garropolo had here with us

I may have been born at night but not last night!
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Mar 18, 2023 at 4:31 PM ]
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Season 3 Episode 1 of Ted Lasso applies perfectly to Trey Lance situation.

All these reporters, bloggers who now call themselves "content creators" - "fans" who think/hope he'll fail - it's all poop and belongs in the sewer.

Trey just needs to be Trey. Keep working and just focus on the journey. Things will fall in place if he performs. Lynch and Shanahan drafted him at 3 for a reason. They want him to succeed as much as anyone and if he plays at a high level - what is said today...who is projected starter....all that s**t...means f**k all.

Such a great show. So bummed its only a 3 season show.

Hoping popularity of the show will drive them to do another season. Definitely think there will be a spin-off at some point.

There is just so much negativity around Lance in the media - it's insane. I believe bc 49ers fooled the media into believing that they were going to draft Mac - they're now doing everything they can to derail Trey so they can say that they were right all along.

The negativity about Lance in the media has nothing to do with FO tactics before the draft. It is because Lance has been nothing but underwhelming in the opportunities he has been given. Unlike Purdy and before him Garoppolo, Lance did not hit the ground winning. That is what is expected from the 3rd pick in the draft.

Darnold is better on paper and would not be surprised if he was the starter in game one if Purdy was still not cleared to play.
Originally posted by Goatie:
The negativity about Lance in the media has nothing to do with FO tactics before the draft. It is because Lance has been nothing but underwhelming in the opportunities he has been given. Unlike Purdy and before him Garoppolo, Lance did not hit the ground winning. That is what is expected from the 3rd pick in the draft.

Darnold is better on paper and would not be surprised if he was the starter in game one if Purdy was still not cleared to play.

What opportuniries has Trey really been given?He started 4 games. One of them was in a monsoon, one of them he played less than a quarter, and one of them he won a must win game in week 17. Lawrence was the #1 overall pick and it took him almost his entire rookie season to show why he was the #1 overall pick. Fields was beyond horrible his rookie season and he started 10 games. Josh Allen it took him 3 years. If he was on the Niners, Fans would have demanded they cut him in year 2.

It takes time. I don't get why fans can't see that. If this front office let's Trey go they better damn sure win the SB in the next 2 years or it's a complete failure.

Trevor Lawrence had 12 TD's and 17 INT's his rookie season. Hs rating was 71.9

Justin Fields had 7 TD's 10 INT's his rookie season and his rating was 73.2

Josh Allen had 10 TD's and 12 INT's his rookie season and his rating was 67.9. Year 2 he had 20 TD's and 9 INT's and rating was 85.3. Still not great.

But Trey is asked to play like an MVP candidate week 1.
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