Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
You have a point but hilarious you kept Aiyuk off the list to make your point.

That's just a list of the 1st rounders that didn't work out or play up to expectation. Bosa isn't on the list either.

His 2 and 4 comment presumably is a 'record' of their success, with Bosa and Aiyuk being the successful two, and Trey not included because it's too early to grade.

How does the 2 and 4 compare to the rest of the league? Is it average or below average? Its hard to judge something without something else to compare it to.

Be my guess. But I think it would throw this thread off topic.

But you're missing the point of why I posted Lynch and Shanahan's picks in the 1st round.

(Edit)

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets face it, Kyle and John don't always make the right decision when it comes to the 1st round. lol

They've done more bad than good when it comes to the 1st round.

Solomon Thomas
Reuben Foster
Mike McGlinchey - Good run blocker, meh pass blocker looks like a 4th round pick
Javon Kinlaw

2 and 4 in the 1st round.

You have a point but hilarious you kept Aiyuk off the list to make your point.

I said 2-4.

Nick Bosa and Brandon Aiyuk makes two. I didn't think I needed to list the ones he hit on or did he not hit with the Aiyuk pick??

McGlinchey is about to hit free agency and be signed on day 1 or 2. May not like him and I don't think he was worth 9 overall, but he was a good pick. Bad picks/busts don't get big money in free agency.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets face it, Kyle and John don't always make the right decision when it comes to the 1st round. lol

They've done more bad than good when it comes to the 1st round.

Solomon Thomas
Reuben Foster
Mike McGlinchey - Good run blocker, meh pass blocker looks like a 4th round pick
Javon Kinlaw

2 and 4 in the 1st round.

You have a point but hilarious you kept Aiyuk off the list to make your point.

I said 2-4.

Nick Bosa and Brandon Aiyuk makes two. I didn't think I needed to list the ones he hit on or did he not hit with the Aiyuk pick??

McGlinchey is about to hit free agency and be signed on day 1 or 2. May not like him and I don't think he was worth 9 overall, but he was a good pick. Bad picks/busts don't get big money in free agency.

I like him but, his pass blocking and constant holding calls are the reasons why I don't think he was worth the 9th overall pick.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets face it, Kyle and John don't always make the right decision when it comes to the 1st round. lol

They've done more bad than good when it comes to the 1st round.

Solomon Thomas
Reuben Foster
Mike McGlinchey - Good run blocker, meh pass blocker looks like a 4th round pick
Javon Kinlaw

2 and 4 in the 1st round.

You have a point but hilarious you kept Aiyuk off the list to make your point.

I said 2-4.

Nick Bosa and Brandon Aiyuk makes two. I didn't think I needed to list the ones he hit on or did he not hit with the Aiyuk pick??

McGlinchey is about to hit free agency and be signed on day 1 or 2. May not like him and I don't think he was worth 9 overall, but he was a good pick. Bad picks/busts don't get big money in free agency.

I like him but, his pass blocking and constant holding calls are the reasons why I don't think he was worth the 9th overall pick.

He's been worth 9 overall,...certainly.

Look @ how the average 9 overall pick does historically.

The staff's job isin't to make you happy with your favorite picks. It's to infuse the team with talent throughout the draft by any means possible.

Whether 7th or 1st,...doesn't matter. And they've been great at it.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
You have a point but hilarious you kept Aiyuk off the list to make your point.

That's just a list of the 1st rounders that didn't work out or play up to expectation. Bosa isn't on the list either.

His 2 and 4 comment presumably is a 'record' of their success, with Bosa and Aiyuk being the successful two, and Trey not included because it's too early to grade.

How does the 2 and 4 compare to the rest of the league? Is it average or below average? Its hard to judge something without something else to compare it to.

Be my guess. But I think it would throw this thread off topic.

But you're missing the point of why I posted Lynch and Shanahan's picks in the 1st round.

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What was the point of the statement other than to take a jab at the FO for their 1st round picks? How they have faired compared to the rest of the league is very relevant.

Like others have said. Its not very honest of you to throw MM on the bad pick side when he will be signing a second contract for more than we can afford to offer him. That would actually make the FO 3-3 in the 1st round with Trey Lance still being an unknown at this point.

Originally posted by fan49:
There only issue is they don't prioritize oline

Posts like this drive me insane. Fake news.

-traded for the best LT in football made him the highest played player at his position.
-drafted a RT top 15
-trade for a former 1st rd pick at LG and developed him into a pro-bowler
-spend elite money at center a couple years ago
-spent a top 50 pick on a LG.
-spent numerous picks on the OL.

They just came off a season where they were ranked top 10 all over the place at offensive line.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I like him but, his pass blocking and constant holding calls are the reasons why I don't think he was worth the 9th overall pick.

Constant holding? Where does his rank on holding calls? His pass blocking isn't elite but wasn't bad either. People will find out what the league thinks of Mike when he becomes a FA. Same thing in here with Tomlinson. Dude got s**t on all the time and got paid bank last off season.

finding good offensive linemen isn't easy. IMO we got a pretty darn good coaching staff at getting OL to play well.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
You have a point but hilarious you kept Aiyuk off the list to make your point.

That's just a list of the 1st rounders that didn't work out or play up to expectation. Bosa isn't on the list either.

His 2 and 4 comment presumably is a 'record' of their success, with Bosa and Aiyuk being the successful two, and Trey not included because it's too early to grade.

How does the 2 and 4 compare to the rest of the league? Is it average or below average? Its hard to judge something without something else to compare it to.

Be my guess. But I think it would throw this thread off topic.

But you're missing the point of why I posted Lynch and Shanahan's picks in the 1st round.

(Edit)

What was the point of the statement other than to take a jab at the FO for their 1st round picks? How they have faired compared to the rest of the league is very relevant.

Like others have said. Its not very honest of you to throw MM on the bad pick side when he will be signing a second contract for more than we can afford to offer him. That would actually make the FO 3-3 in the 1st round with Trey Lance still being an unknown at this point.

Yes the point was they have done more bad than good in the 1st round. And not how has Lynch compare to the rest of the league that wasn't the point.

As for McGlinchey, there were other ways they could've went besides RT, 49ers definitely could've used Minkah Fitzpatrick or Derwin James. I thought McGlinchey was being groomed to be the future LT, which IMO would've made the pick deemed worthy. You and I know McGlinchey wasn't worth the #9 overall pick, he's a horrible pass blocker and commits tons of penalties, not to mention has only managed to start 3 full seasons outta the 5 he's been in SF. Sure he'll most likely get a pretty solid contract, but that's because of inflation, demand and not how well he's performed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I like him but, his pass blocking and constant holding calls are the reasons why I don't think he was worth the 9th overall pick.

Constant holding? Where does his rank on holding calls? His pass blocking isn't elite but wasn't bad either. People will find out what the league thinks of Mike when he becomes a FA. Same thing in here with Tomlinson. Dude got s**t on all the time and got paid bank last off season.

finding good offensive linemen isn't easy. IMO we got a pretty darn good coaching staff at getting OL to play well.

Exactly my point.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets face it, Kyle and John don't always make the right decision when it comes to the 1st round. lol

They've done more bad than good when it comes to the 1st round.

Solomon Thomas
Reuben Foster
Mike McGlinchey - Good run blocker, meh pass blocker looks like a 4th round pick
Javon Kinlaw

2 and 4 in the 1st round.

You have a point but hilarious you kept Aiyuk off the list to make your point.

I said 2-4.

Nick Bosa and Brandon Aiyuk makes two. I didn't think I needed to list the ones he hit on or did he not hit with the Aiyuk pick??

McGlinchey is about to hit free agency and be signed on day 1 or 2. May not like him and I don't think he was worth 9 overall, but he was a good pick. Bad picks/busts don't get big money in free agency.

I like him but, his pass blocking and constant holding calls are the reasons why I don't think he was worth the 9th overall pick.

He wasn't worth thr pick, so we agree there. But he still was a good pick. Guy would still be a 1st round pick and is still among the top 5 O-line in that draft. They are 3-3, which is good compared to many teams. Add in rounds 2-7 + UDFA signings and you get a top 5 NFL roster

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
You have a point but hilarious you kept Aiyuk off the list to make your point.

That's just a list of the 1st rounders that didn't work out or play up to expectation. Bosa isn't on the list either.

His 2 and 4 comment presumably is a 'record' of their success, with Bosa and Aiyuk being the successful two, and Trey not included because it's too early to grade.

How does the 2 and 4 compare to the rest of the league? Is it average or below average? Its hard to judge something without something else to compare it to.

Be my guess. But I think it would throw this thread off topic.

But you're missing the point of why I posted Lynch and Shanahan's picks in the 1st round.

(Edit)

What was the point of the statement other than to take a jab at the FO for their 1st round picks? How they have faired compared to the rest of the league is very relevant.

Like others have said. Its not very honest of you to throw MM on the bad pick side when he will be signing a second contract for more than we can afford to offer him. That would actually make the FO 3-3 in the 1st round with Trey Lance still being an unknown at this point.

Yes the point was they have done more bad than good in the 1st round. And not how has Lynch compare to the rest of the league that wasn't the point.

As for McGlinchey, there were other ways they could've went besides RT, 49ers definitely could've used Minkah Fitzpatrick or Derwin James. I thought McGlinchey was being groomed to be the future LT, which IMO would've made the pick deemed worthy. You and I know McGlinchey wasn't worth the #9 overall pick, he's a horrible pass blocker and commits tons of penalties, not to mention has only managed to start 3 full seasons outta the 5 he's been in SF. Sure he'll most likely get a pretty solid contract, but that's because of inflation, demand and not how well he's performed.

Minkah and Darwin are elite at their positions certainly. But maybe you forget we weren't going to pay Trent Brown (we were right on that ultimately). Had we taken Kolton Miller and his career plays out as is, but at RT, no one would have an issue, despite not having any All Pro nods. With the way D-linenan are lining up anywhere, you better have two good tackles.

If we are going to play that game I'll take Jimmie Ward and the slot corners we have had + Miller over having Minkah or James and a crap shoot at OL. I don't think people get how raw these guys are coming out of college now.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by fan49:
There only issue is they don't prioritize oline

Posts like this drive me insane. Fake news.

-traded for the best LT in football made him the highest played player at his position.
-drafted a RT top 15
-trade for a former 1st rd pick at LG and developed him into a pro-bowler
-spend elite money at center a couple years ago
-spent a top 50 pick on a LG.
-spent numerous picks on the OL.

They just came off a season where they were ranked top 10 all over the place at offensive line.

So what is the excuse for having 4 qbs knocked out? Just wondering what your thoughts are. Is it just bad luck? Is it the blocking scheme? Is it just a coincidence? Do all our qbs have injury issues? It cant be the oline, because they prioritized it. Or maybe they prioritized it, and they just sucked at it? Maybe prioritizing the oline with jouneymen centers, late round picks and mediocre right right guards isnt the best way to prioritize?

And how do you rank an oline? Clearly keeping the qb healthy is not a factor, because theyd be dead last.

Every other team knows that to keep a qb healthy you have to a good oline. Tom Brady was never touched when he was at New England. But us? 4 qbs get destroyed, and we have people claiming this is a top 10 oline.



I said the oline would be the death of this team during the preseason. Heres to hoping they "prioritize" better.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So what is the excuse for having 4 qbs knocked out? Just wondering what your thoughts are. Is it just bad luck? Is it the blocking scheme? Is it just a coincidence? Do all our qbs have injury issues? It cant be the oline, because they prioritized it. Or maybe they prioritized it, and they just sucked at it? Maybe prioritizing the oline with jouneymen centers, late round picks and mediocre right right guards isnt the best way to prioritize?

And how do you rank an oline? Clearly keeping the qb healthy is not a factor, because theyd be dead last.

Every other team knows that to keep a qb healthy you have to a good oline. Tom Brady was never touched when he was at New England. But us? 4 qbs get destroyed, and we have people claiming this is a top 10 oline.



I said the oline would be the death of this team during the preseason. Heres to hoping they "prioritize" better.

Two were young guys one was Jimmy being Jimmy and then Josh Johnson was deer in the headlights Vs PHI.

Trey got rolled up by a DL vs SEA
Jimmy was tying to drag a DL for a few yards
Brock didn't realize Vs PHI you gotta get the ball out hella quick
Josh Johnson did the same thing Brock did

Reddick was a one man wrecking crew against the Niners. Against the Chiefs you didn't hear his name.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So what is the excuse for having 4 qbs knocked out? Just wondering what your thoughts are. Is it just bad luck? Is it the blocking scheme? Is it just a coincidence? Do all our qbs have injury issues? It cant be the oline, because they prioritized it. Or maybe they prioritized it, and they just sucked at it? Maybe prioritizing the oline with jouneymen centers, late round picks and mediocre right right guards isnt the best way to prioritize?

And how do you rank an oline? Clearly keeping the qb healthy is not a factor, because theyd be dead last.

Every other team knows that to keep a qb healthy you have to a good oline. Tom Brady was never touched when he was at New England. But us? 4 qbs get destroyed, and we have people claiming this is a top 10 oline.



I said the oline would be the death of this team during the preseason. Heres to hoping they "prioritize" better.

If you think every QB injury or hit is solely because of OL play then we have no conversion here. I'm not gonna break it all down (again) for you.

it's lazy an simple minded to think that's the only reason.