Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

One other deficiency that I think Lance has is that he is not a natural leader IMO, or even a good leader... I don't see guys gravitate toward him and respond to him like they do with Brock. Both are about the same age so it's not a maturity thing, it's just the way each is wired.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
One other deficiency that I think Lance has is that he is not a natural leader IMO, or even a good leader... I don't see guys gravitate toward him and respond to him like they do with Brock. Both are about the same age so it's not a maturity thing, it's just the way each is wired.

Why dont you tell us more about things you dont have any idea about.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
One other deficiency that I think Lance has is that he is not a natural leader IMO, or even a good leader... I don't see guys gravitate toward him and respond to him like they do with Brock. Both are about the same age so it's not a maturity thing, it's just the way each is wired.

I think he's a good leader, it's just that Brock knock's him out of the water.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
the hate for lance truly is beyond explanation

It's pretty unbelievable. By all accounts he's seems like a great teammate. Good football IQ and yes the skill set is there…he's just super young with not a ton of football behind him. That in no way means he will suck. Just mean he's gotta play football to improve. Not that difficult to understand.

Some fans are petty and emotional. I would understand if you got 4 yrs of film on him, that's enough time to come up with a reasonable opinion of what he is. Kid has 100 passing attempts in the NFL. Facts are some people will never like him (for whatever reason). Some will never give him a chance to succeed and setup scenarios in their mind that in no way lead to success, then they can say….see I was right, which matters more I guess.

As a fan of this team, why in the world would you not want him to become good? why not give him the chance to improve? Capital is already spent, now let it play out. Why go out of your way to be an ass about it? Overall just really lame imo.

Look folks, here's the deal. We paid a kings ransom for this guy. He's given us the Trey Sermon level of availability / production. This is results business. Are you available? Are you productive? When that stuff flips and the answer is yes to both, we all will be singing the praises. With great investment, comes great expectations.

Lot of ways those three ones could have pushed us over the line each of the last two season, if one uses imagination, #6 and #7 already in the case perhaps. We were like 5 yards away from winning it all each of last two season, just needed a final push to the endzone, so to speak.

So why doesnt this apply to Jimmy, who you and others were SO condescending towards anyone who wanted him replaced? Jimmy started and finished 59% of the our games that he was QB1. That is completely unacceptable.

This is not correct at all. I was of the opinion after the 2020 meltdown season, we need to upgrade the room. Moving up to #3 and taking a project type was not the way I would have gone about it, I can say. I can also say if we moved to 3, Fields was the pick I was hoping for.

Now the info is a lil different. TL can't stay healthy at a worse rate than JG. He started 2 games last year. He was supposed to start 17 this year. He started 2. That's 2/17 = 12%. Also he got hurt game one of last year. Then game two of this year. Brock got nuked. JJ got hurt in like a series or two. Deep issues with QB injury and it's not contained to just JG. It's a 49er problem, right now.

Your opinion completely changed then. Because throughout the 2021 season, and into the offseason, anyone who had anything negative to say about Jimmy you jumped all over. You know this is true. I cannot even believe you are trying to claim otherwise.

Yep, you can make the 12% comment about Trey and thats fine. But it was one injury. With Jimmy, it was like 5 in 6 seasons. If Trey gets hurt again, then its a pattern and a huge problem. But as of now, its just one injury.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
One other deficiency that I think Lance has is that he is not a natural leader IMO, or even a good leader... I don't see guys gravitate toward him and respond to him like they do with Brock. Both are about the same age so it's not a maturity thing, it's just the way each is wired.

Why dont you tell us more about things you dont have any idea about.

Be nice, Jcool.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Petty and emotional to me is claiming you wouldn't spend another cent on your team if they picked a guy you didn't like doesn't get much lamer than that.

Petty imo is hating a guy for no reason because he's replacing a player that you love and defend regardless of how he's played.

NY, it's going to be a looooong offseason for you if you hang onto all the "hate" that is being directed at Lance. Unless you like it, then go for it. The only way for Lance to change people's mind is to play well, and the soonest that can happen is September.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Petty and emotional to me is claiming you wouldn't spend another cent on your team if they picked a guy you didn't like doesn't get much lamer than that.

Petty imo is hating a guy for no reason because he's replacing a player that you love and defend regardless of how he's played.

This hate crap is getting really old it's as if it's people's fall back plan when they have nothing else,and as far as me being a Garrapalo defender or lover your barking up the wrong tree you know what they say about assuming don't you?

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Even if the defensiveness between Jimmy fans and Trey fans was equal, it's not BTW because why would there be more defenders of a player who's accomplished nothing so far vs a player we've made two NFC championships and 1 Super Bowl with, you still have the difference that posters are making definitive statements about Trey's career before he's had one.

At least Jimmy has had 6 seasons as the starter to prove his worth.

Even some of the staunchest Jimmy defenders have admitted the hate towards Trey is on another level due to the lack of sample size.

when it's TL it's lack of sample size, not his fault

when it's JG a few posts above, it's 'completely unacceptable' that he misses games due to injury

course, TLs lack of sample size this year was... due to missing games due to injury.

Double standard

for me JG has demonstrated he can win games and take this club deep in postseason and to the SB.. and win it if we just have some way of stopping a 3rd and very long.
TL verdict still out on what we got here.. I support us bringing back JG and if TL is the better QB this offseason he gets the job.. plain and simple. The way they both get injured and with BP on the mend, we may need both here.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
doubt/criticism = hate when it comes to TL, that's the way it is with his fan base on here, their faith in the man's ability without seeing any substantive NFL results is like belief in a religion, the religion of Trey

Lol yeah you've been real objective of Lance in here…Nah some people just want to see him play and give him a chance to develop. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. no one is gonna know anything until then

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
One other deficiency that I think Lance has is that he is not a natural leader IMO, or even a good leader... I don't see guys gravitate toward him and respond to him like they do with Brock. Both are about the same age so it's not a maturity thing, it's just the way each is wired.

Why dont you tell us more about things you dont have any idea about.

Be nice, Jcool.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
One other deficiency that I think Lance has is that he is not a natural leader IMO, or even a good leader... I don't see guys gravitate toward him and respond to him like they do with Brock. Both are about the same age so it's not a maturity thing, it's just the way each is wired.

You have absolutely no clue if this is true or not. Just making things up.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Your opinion completely changed then. Because throughout the 2021 season, and into the offseason, anyone who had anything negative to say about Jimmy you jumped all over. You know this is true. I cannot even believe you are trying to claim otherwise.

Yep, you can make the 12% comment about Trey and thats fine. But it was one injury. With Jimmy, it was like 5 in 6 seasons. If Trey gets hurt again, then its a pattern and a huge problem. But as of now, its just one injury.

Once you are in season and we already committed to JG as starter, recall the debate. It was do we develop TL, perhaps at detriment to the team record or do we play JG who is starting as KS says he's better (we know as KS named him starter for this reason). Many said let's forget this season, 2021 and just develop Lance, this was when we were around 3-5 to start. I said, no let's maintain JG until it is known we are out of it we have a great team here.. and we went to the NFCCG. I wouldn't trade that year, we made the correct move.

Also no SWH it's not just one injury. He was injured both years. You are just not correct here.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Petty and emotional to me is claiming you wouldn't spend another cent on your team if they picked a guy you didn't like doesn't get much lamer than that.

Petty imo is hating a guy for no reason because he's replacing a player that you love and defend regardless of how he's played.

NY, it's going to be a looooong offseason for you if you hang onto all the "hate" that is being directed at Lance. Unless you like it, then go for it. The only way for Lance to change people's mind is to play well, and the soonest that can happen is September.

IF you have read some of the posts by the people in here, you know that Lance wont be able to change minds.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Your opinion completely changed then. Because throughout the 2021 season, and into the offseason, anyone who had anything negative to say about Jimmy you jumped all over. You know this is true. I cannot even believe you are trying to claim otherwise.

Yep, you can make the 12% comment about Trey and thats fine. But it was one injury. With Jimmy, it was like 5 in 6 seasons. If Trey gets hurt again, then its a pattern and a huge problem. But as of now, its just one injury.

Once you are in season and we already committed to JG as starter, recall the debate. It was do we develop TL, perhaps at detriment to the team record or do we play JG who is starting as KS says he's better (we know as KS named him starter for this reason). Many said let's forget this season, 2021 and just develop Lance, this was when we were around 3-5 to start. I said, no let's maintain JG until it is known we are out of it we have a great team here.. and we went to the NFCCG. I wouldn't trade that year, we made the correct move.

Also no SWH it's not just one injury. He was injured both years. You are just not correct here.

He has only had one injury that prevented him from keeping the starting job. This year. He was never going to be the starter last season, as you pointed out.

Originally posted by Heroism:
This will be a good thread to avoid during the offseason because nothing productive will come from talking in circles.

Trey just needs to get to work.

Real. If people are so sure that Trey will never be a good QB, then they should be confident that Purdy will simply step in as QB1 at either training camp or during the 1st quarter of the regular season, whenever he's able to return.