Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Shemp:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Shemp:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
There is plenty of reason to think Brock may be the FQB moving forward, but ZERO reason to hope we trade Lance. The narrative is that Lance isn't worth s**t so we should trade him. But if he wasn't worth s**t, why would any team want him? So we have a Drew Brees/Phillip Rivers situation. Why not enjoy the depth at QB and luxury of having both on rookie deals for the foreseeable future? Why are these few people so eager to dump him? We AIN'T keeping Jimmy, that what's bothering folks?

Teams will trade for the unknown and right now that's where Trey lands on league radars for everyone but this Franchise who has seen him in 2 training camps and preseasons. Teams will also make stupid moves for a QB when they don't have a QB. Trey still has trade value but if we skirt him out for a 3rd season to see him fail again it will diminish what we can get for him.

This is Purdy's team and I'm a Jimmy fan but the kid has something special.

Trey will get a 2nd and a 3rd best case in a trade. Who would do that? Anyone who loses out on any other chance on QB's they want in the draft and on veteran QBs they want in free agency. He's got a low salary cap next year, we should just keep him. I'm only worried about him "beating out" Brock in TC and the pre-season for reasons unrelated to his skills or performance, and more related to how much ego is tied up in that awful draft trade for the rights to draft him.

Why would the 49ers choose to lose cap space AND a backup QB to get mid round picks? Don't see them trading him. The best QB is going to play. The only way Trey has a chance at beating out Brock is if he grows in the off-season and Shanahan gets fixated on QB power and things off of it again. That's very unlikely to happen. It's not like Brock is playing like Jimmy. Brock is playing like a top 10 QB.

I'm a little worried about them giving the ball back to Trey because of his draft commitment. Purdy has obviously been better, but he also didn't have CMC. I honestly thing Christian has been the difference maker, but Purdy is also more accurate, has way better pocket awareness and his scrambling is more productive

CMC really started consistently lighting it up after Purdy became QB. Lance was so deer in the headlights that I don't think CMC, or Walter Payton for that matter, would have suddenly made him play like Purdy. Purdy is on another level as compared to Lance.

Lance certainly was a "deer in the headlights". He habitually jumped scared from the pocket way to early and missed passing opportunities for short runs. He is very unpolished and nothing would have changed that up to now. He is still going to need another couple of years to develop as a second stringer. He is not up to the starting job anytime soon. It is just pure fantasy to think he will be QB1 at the start of next season particularly when we have Purdy balling out like we would expect a No3 pick to do.

Imagine the noise if Bosa needed a couple of years to develop before he got his first sack because he was too inexperienced. It is the same deal with Trey. All hype but no walking the walk.

Originally posted by Goatie:
Lance certainly was a "deer in the headlights". He habitually jumped scared from the pocket way to early and missed passing opportunities for short runs. He is very unpolished and nothing would have changed that up to now. He is still going to need another couple of years to develop as a second stringer. He is not up to the starting job anytime soon. It is just pure fantasy to think he will be QB1 at the start of next season particularly when we have Purdy balling out like we would expect a No3 pick to do.

Imagine the noise if Bosa needed a couple of years to develop before he got his first sack because he was too inexperienced. It is the same deal with Trey. All hype but no walking the walk.

I mean what is the point of making things up? We all saw the games he played in.

Originally posted by Shemp:
We started the 2022 season with the worst QB on our roster, progressively working towards our best. We got pretty lucky. Shanahan and Lynch were playing Trey because they had no choice but to double down on a questionable draft day decision. The niners would be watching the playoffs from the couch if Lance never got injured.

The niners would have won the division just the same if Lance never got injured.

See I can do it too.

Insane claims being made in this forum about Trey. With Jimmy we had actual evidence of YEARS of playing qb here and seeing his limitations esp in the playoffs.

Sample size is a real thing. Many of ya'll need to take a statistics class where it is of primary importance for having any kind of normal distribution.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
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THERE has been multiple trades.

The SF 49ers have traded QB Trey Lance to the Houston Texans along w/their 5th round in this year's draft.

The Texans have agreed to send this year's 2nd overall pick, QB Davis Mills; 2024 second round pick, and their first round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

The 49ers have also traded their 3rd round pick in this year's draft, along w/their 2024 second round pick to the Los Angeles Chargers.

The Chargers will send DE Joey Bosa to the 49ers.

Originally posted by Jcool:
I mean what is the point of making things up? We all saw the games he played in.

It's what he does. He'd cut Trey if it was up to him.

Originally posted by 9moon:
THERE has been multiple trades.

The SF 49ers have traded QB Trey Lance to the Houston Texans along w/their 5th round in this year's draft.

The Texans have agreed to send this year's 2nd overall pick, QB Davis Mills; 2024 second round pick, and their first round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

The 49ers have also traded their 3rd round pick in this year's draft, along w/their 2024 second round pick to the Los Angeles Chargers.

The Chargers will send DE Joey Bosa to the 49ers.

Originally posted by 9moon:
THERE has been multiple trades.

The SF 49ers have traded QB Trey Lance to the Houston Texans along w/their 5th round in this year's draft.

The Texans have agreed to send this year's 2nd overall pick, QB Davis Mills; 2024 second round pick, and their first round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

The 49ers have also traded their 3rd round pick in this year's draft, along w/their 2024 second round pick to the Los Angeles Chargers.

The Chargers will send DE Joey Bosa to the 49ers.

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Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 9moon:
THERE has been multiple trades.

The SF 49ers have traded QB Trey Lance to the Houston Texans along w/their 5th round in this year's draft.

The Texans have agreed to send this year's 2nd overall pick, QB Davis Mills; 2024 second round pick, and their first round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

The 49ers have also traded their 3rd round pick in this year's draft, along w/their 2024 second round pick to the Los Angeles Chargers.

The Chargers will send DE Joey Bosa to the 49ers.

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This.

"Texans have agreed to send this year's 2nd overall pick….2024 second round pick, and their first round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft."

If we were to trade Trey in the offseason, what is a realistic comp expectation? Strong draft class so that hurts.

Originally posted by 9moon:
THERE has been multiple trades.

The SF 49ers have traded QB Trey Lance to the Houston Texans along w/their 5th round in this year's draft.

The Texans have agreed to send this year's 2nd overall pick, QB Davis Mills; 2024 second round pick, and their first round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

The 49ers have also traded their 3rd round pick in this year's draft, along w/their 2024 second round pick to the Los Angeles Chargers.

The Chargers will send DE Joey Bosa to the 49ers.

Originally posted by 9moon:
THERE has been multiple trades.

The SF 49ers have traded QB Trey Lance to the Houston Texans along w/their 5th round in this year's draft.

The Texans have agreed to send this year's 2nd overall pick, QB Davis Mills; 2024 second round pick, and their first round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

The 49ers have also traded their 3rd round pick in this year's draft, along w/their 2024 second round pick to the Los Angeles Chargers.

The Chargers will send DE Joey Bosa to the 49ers.

Madden trade logic has ruined ppl

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by Shemp:
We started the 2022 season with the worst QB on our roster, progressively working towards our best. We got pretty lucky. Shanahan and Lynch were playing Trey because they had no choice but to double down on a questionable draft day decision. The niners would be watching the playoffs from the couch if Lance never got injured.

The niners would have won the division just the same if Lance never got injured.

See I can do it too.

Insane claims being made in this forum about Trey. With Jimmy we had actual evidence of YEARS of playing qb here and seeing his limitations esp in the playoffs.

Sample size is a real thing. Many of ya'll need to take a statistics class where it is of primary importance for having any kind of normal distribution.

Well, have there been any QBs that you have seen that have lit it up for as many games with as much poise, confidence, leadership, accuracy, performance, and instinct as Purdy has done who later fell on their face? I can't really think of any. The closest I can think of, and it's not close, would be Mac Jones last year to this year. When someone kicks ass for 7 games in a row, the question of sample size is over. I'm not aware of a single analyst making the sample size argument any longer. You might be the last one left.

Originally posted by Goatie:
Lance certainly was a "deer in the headlights". He habitually jumped scared from the pocket way to early and missed passing opportunities for short runs. He is very unpolished and nothing would have changed that up to now. He is still going to need another couple of years to develop as a second stringer. He is not up to the starting job anytime soon. It is just pure fantasy to think he will be QB1 at the start of next season particularly when we have Purdy balling out like we would expect a No3 pick to do.

Imagine the noise if Bosa needed a couple of years to develop before he got his first sack because he was too inexperienced. It is the same deal with Trey. All hype but no walking the walk.

If Bosa had zero sacks in 4 games you'd call him a bust?

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Lance certainly was a "deer in the headlights". He habitually jumped scared from the pocket way to early and missed passing opportunities for short runs. He is very unpolished and nothing would have changed that up to now. He is still going to need another couple of years to develop as a second stringer. He is not up to the starting job anytime soon. It is just pure fantasy to think he will be QB1 at the start of next season particularly when we have Purdy balling out like we would expect a No3 pick to do.

Imagine the noise if Bosa needed a couple of years to develop before he got his first sack because he was too inexperienced. It is the same deal with Trey. All hype but no walking the walk.

If Bosa had zero sacks in 4 games you'd call him a bust?

Bosa damn near did that IIRC. I think he got up fo 3.