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Originally posted by BOI49er:
Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?

As a Brit, I've never heard that phrase before .
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Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?

As a Brit, I've never heard that phrase before .

I'm sorry you don't have such awesome heroes as Abe Lincoln, Vampire Hunter M.D.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Goatie:
He will likely get his chance on another team after the end of next season if Purdy stays healthy.

Trey is gonna be here another couple years minimum. He's gonna be allowed to develop so we can see what he invested so much capital into. The team is happy with him aside from the injury. It makes no sense he's gone so soon when he's done nothing to deserve that
So if Purdy is our franchise QB, we will just let Trey go to another team via FA? I don't think so. Might as well see what draft picks we can get from him end of next season.
[ Edited by libertyforever on Jan 14, 2023 at 7:31 AM ]
I don't think Shanny is thrilled with TL, he's only going to say positive comments and be upbeat about the situation to preserve any potential trade value that still exists.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
yeah makes it seem like Kyle dossnt know what he is doing and the rest of the team sucked in Chicago. But fails to mention the wide open TD to Kraft that was missed and probably changed the rest of the game. A lot of blame going around to everyone except Lance.

We acting like QB have never missed a pass before? I've talked about that miss a number of times and Lance owned the miss as well he should.

He said he tried to make a perfect pass and led Kroft too much(perhaps if it's Kittle that's a completion?) he adjusted after it and hit Jennings on the same play later in the game but due to poor footing Jennings couldn't house it. That's growth within the game. That's not a bad thing.

let's not act like after that miss the wheels fell off. How about Deebo fumbling? Guess Trey's miss on a deep pass in the rain changed the whole game but Deebo's fumble in the red zone wasn't an issue? We expected Trey not to be perfect. The rest of the team was supposed to lift him up. That didn't happen.
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Eh, in terms of running the ball, he needs work on this. The guy is not the best at seeing and then reacting to what the defense is doing to stop him when he runs. As far as passing, his biggest weakness is still accuracy, but he's still not where he needs to be in terms of speed of recognizing where to go with the ball. He's not bad at it, but he's a tick late still. More experience would improve this.

But if Brock keeps playing this well and we win the trophy, he's not going to get that opportunity unless Brock gets hurt next year.

You're correct but the issue is hesitancy with what he's seeing, not recognition of what he's seeing. As you said more playing time will speed things up for him. He's also shown that even when he hesitates to take the drawn up sure thing more times than not he still makes the play and sometimes for a bigger gain.

Interesting--how do you differentiate between hesitation and recognition? Genuine question.

You can see it in some plays. He's looking in the right spot just not pulling the trigger. We haven't seen the looks from him where he clearly misses defenders or looks skittish in the pocket cuz he's unsure what to do out there.

I think Steve Young even talked about it. It's just a matter can he get the ball there and that's based on experience and timing. It's been a very small sample size but I think the kid has shown some good things and shown he's quick to learn from mistakes. He just has to rep things out.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I don't think Shanny is thrilled with TL, he's only going to say positive comments and be upbeat about the situation to preserve any potential trade value that still exists.

And you get this idea from what?
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.

We just have to hold Trey to a much much lower standard than Purdy, and then we can say Trey played kind of ok.
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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.

We just have to hold Trey to a much much lower standard than Purdy, and then we can say Trey played kind of ok.
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[ Edited by jcs on Jan 14, 2023 at 8:01 AM ]
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.

We just have to hold Trey to a much much lower standard than Purdy, and then we can say Trey played kind of ok.

Agreed. The guy playing in the rain, with no Kittle or CMC and with an offensive line starting first year players in it's first game was being held to a lower standard. This shouldn't be an earth shattering revelation.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.

We just have to hold Trey to a much much lower standard than Purdy, and then we can say Trey played kind of ok.

You did that with Jimmy for six seasons. Brock, of course, was more ready to play than any rookie since Herbert. And here's the thing: Trey hasn't played much different from most rookie QBs. In fact, he's played BETTER than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience. But Brock has played like a 10 year veteran. It could be, rather than Trey being bad (since he's actually played better than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience), it could just be that the difference between the two is because BROCK is a great QB.

Time will tell. But he's played better than most QBs in the entire NFL the last few weeks.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
You did that with Jimmy for six seasons. Brock, of course, was more ready to play than any rookie since Herbert. And here's the thing: Trey hasn't played much different from most rookie QBs. In fact, he's played BETTER than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience. But Brock has played like a 10 year veteran. It could be, rather than Trey being bad (since he's actually played better than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience), it could just be that the difference between the two is because BROCK is a great QB.

Time will tell. But he's played better than most QBs in the entire NFL the last few weeks.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I don't think Shanny is thrilled with TL, he's only going to say positive comments and be upbeat about the situation to preserve any potential trade value that still exists.

I concur with this. The offense completely evolved when Jimmy G came in. Like in the same game, the offense looked totally different.

Maybe, just.maybe Trey isn't as bright as they thought he was and he wasn't able to pick up the nuances of the offense as well as others? I'm not saying he isn't. Just unsure but cautiously optimistic lol
[ Edited by ninerfan818 on Jan 14, 2023 at 9:34 AM ]
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.

We just have to hold Trey to a much much lower standard than Purdy, and then we can say Trey played kind of ok.

Agreed. The guy playing in the rain, with no Kittle or CMC and with an offensive line starting first year players in it's first game was being held to a lower standard. This shouldn't be an earth shattering revelation.

You mentioned Trey's disadvantages. Here are Trey's advantages:

1. 2nd year player vs a rookie
2. Full off-season as QB1 with 1st team reps vs someone with minimal 1st team reps
3. Purdy had no Deebo for a bunch of games
[ Edited by libertyforever on Jan 14, 2023 at 9:42 AM ]
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