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  • thl408
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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by krizay:
Im a Jimmy fan but not lover. I'm a Lance doubter but not a hater.

I am a Brock lover. This is what I envisioned the passing game to look like with Mac. Brock's mobility makes it look even better than that.

Now just need him to keep it up.

That's understandable.

Ive stated so many times, that I'm behind whoever can help this team win.
Originally posted by boast:
it's so bad here that when you make a positive comment about one or point out a bad take about another, you get labeled. some here think it's not possible to have a positive opinion about all three of the QBs that have started this year.

Main reason for QB threads turning toxic. Everything is binary. If you love one then you must hate the other, and vice versa. And some are just here to fan the flames.

I'll stfu. What I'm doing is not helping.
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Originally posted by thl408:
I'll stfu. What I'm doing is not helping.

I think it is. Nothing wrong with bringing reasonable takes to a place that desperately needs them. Please don't stop.
Originally posted by krizay:
You are confusing.

You say

I could say he does have the talent in the necessary areas all the same.
Then compare him to guys you admit didn't have necessary talent

Did guys like allen and Hurts have all the necessary talent from day 1? Nope their play early in their career backed that up

You then say...

yeah you can form what ifs to backup any narrative you want to push,

Then follow that up with

IMO the only people talking in absolutes

So I'm talking in whataboutisms and absolutes?

And here's my favorite.

Any young player is what ifs unless they're one of the rare prospects that become pro-bowlers year 1

I know a guy...

let me clarify…you're saying he doesn't have the necessary tools. I'm saying even if he doesn't have all the tools (no young QB does) he can improve by actually playing football. we will not have an answer to that until he gets to play legit football.

I showed you examples of players that didn't have everything figured out ONLY to improve as players. I know shocking that can actually happen.

lol imagine thinking a guy who was an alternate to the alternate as a "pro bowler" actually meant something. Clearly that hasn't proven to be true this yr

Bravo on trying to twist comments to fit a narrative. It's about the only good thing you do in here
this is why i believe trey would look good leading this offense, cmc is the key
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Dec 19, 2022 at 12:33 PM ]
Originally posted by Goatie:
I would think Kyle and the rest of the team would prefer the bird in the hand rather than the bird in the bush.

Some people don't get that potential is not real until it is realized and you do not win Super Bowls on hypothetical potential. Trey has not proved he has what it takes yet and his potential is not realized and no one knows whether it will.

On the other hand Purdy is balling and will stay the starter unless he gets hurt.

And none of it matters right now. It's Dec and they don't need to worry about next yrs starter until next yr. Just enjoy the journey now…and next yr will be next yr.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
this is why i believe trey would look better

Trey needs to significantly improve on his short throws. One of what makes CMC special is he can catch the check downs and make defenders missed. He can't if the ball is uncatchable, or if the throw is so off that he needs to dive or slow down the catch the ball.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Trey needs to significantly improve on his short throws. One of what makes CMC special is he can catch the check downs and make defenders missed. He can't if the ball is uncatchable, or if the throw is so off that he needs to dive or slow down the catch the ball.

he does need to improve, which is why cmc can help
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think the problem about talking potential after a player has been drafted, is that majority of the players never reached their full potential. Every single 1st round pick QB has the so call "potential" to be the franchise QB and probably half of them are complete busts.

The QB position is more mental than physical. Tom Brady and Joe Montana had mid to low potential as a prospect coming out of college, same with Purdy. I am not saying Purdy will be as good as Tom Brady or Joe Montana at all, but I would say he has the "potential" to be similarly good. It is really about how good he can be mentally in reading defense and shine under pressure.

A lot of the time players with high potential go to s**t teams and are overwhelmed trying to do more than they can. Toss in bad coaching and poor ownership…they never get a chance to fail, learn from it, develop and improve. There's a reason they've drafted high most years.

You got guys that have top end talent and zero work ethic or football IQ as well. They don't take responsibility for faults and seem a bit entitled. kyler Murray comes to mind.

Lance imo has the work ethic and mentality to want to be good. He does everything right from that perspective. Clearly kyle, ownership and the FO agreed. Can he put it all together? Not sure, only going to find out by actually playing football.

Guys like Brock need to learn the game and process everything quicker due to the lack of those elite traits. Like you said that's a massive part of the game. It's a reason why a lot of those underwhelming QBs become coaches. The goal IMO is to have both.

love what Brock is doing and hopefully he can keep it up this yr. Could he be the next Montana? Sure (doubtful but we can dream). Could he be the next Case Keenum? Yeah that's a possibility all the same.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Trey needs to significantly improve on his short throws. One of what makes CMC special is he can catch the check downs and make defenders missed. He can't if the ball is uncatchable, or if the throw is so off that he needs to dive or slow down the catch the ball.

he does need to improve, which is why cmc can help

I posted a clip the other day of about 40 throws from Lance making easy short throws and good reads. People have exaggerated all that imo. He does need to become more consistent, which is something you could say about a lot of young QBs. Either way I think we just need a larger sample size.
Trey has a slow ass release compared to Jimmy and Purdy. He needs to fix it or else he's gonna end up like ole windup thrower Kap
so basically lance and jimmy had a baby and out came purdy

Originally posted by Eli_23:
Trey has a slow ass release compared to Jimmy and Purdy. He needs to fix it or else he's gonna end up like ole windup thrower Kap

No he doesn't lol. Fake news
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
so basically lance and jimmy had a baby and out came purdy


Lol nah.
Originally posted by Eli_23:
Trey has a slow ass release compared to Jimmy and Purdy. He needs to fix it or else he's gonna end up like ole windup thrower Kap

His release is not nearly as slow as Kap's. People over exaggerate Trey's release.
  • krizay
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
let me clarify…you're saying he doesn't have the necessary tools. I'm saying even if he doesn't have all the tools (no young QB does) he can improve by actually playing football. we will not have an answer to that until he gets to play legit football.

I showed you examples of players that didn't have everything figured out ONLY to improve as players. I know shocking that can actually happen.

lol imagine thinking a guy who was an alternate to the alternate as a "pro bowler" actually meant something. Clearly that hasn't proven to be true this yr

Bravo on trying to twist comments to fit a narrative. It's about the only good thing you do in here

Well, at least these are your own thoughts and you didn't have to tweet someone else's. The one good thing you do in here
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