Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by JTB1974:
It has taken Fields about 17 or 18 games to get to this point. Let's see how Trey is when he gets to that amount of games. Players get better with reps, Who would have thought.

He's not going to get to that point ever. He's not that athletic.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not going to get to that point ever. He's not that athletic.

You act like Fields rushing the ball is the only thing he was talking about

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Fields, vick, jackson, stunningly athletic qb's with exactly 0 Super Bowls. You gotta be able to read and pass. I can add rg3 kaep to that list too.

I saw him shred the dolphins. He may very well be an outstanding qb but I haven't seen him do it with his arm yet. Cool it with the hot takes.

write this down and keep receipts. Fields comes back to earth this week. And how do you compare a qb who has played 3 games in 2 seasons. You can't gotta wait and see.

Sounds like you want him to fail... strange.

And yet, you take every opportunity to make it known you want Lance to fail……strange

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Fields, vick, jackson, stunningly athletic qb's with exactly 0 Super Bowls. You gotta be able to read and pass. I can add rg3 kaep to that list too.

I saw him shred the dolphins. He may very well be an outstanding qb but I haven't seen him do it with his arm yet. Cool it with the hot takes.

write this down and keep receipts. Fields comes back to earth this week. And how do you compare a qb who has played 3 games in 2 seasons. You can't gotta wait and see.

Sounds like you want him to fail... strange.

And yet, you take every opportunity to make it known you want Lance to fail……strange

I made it very clear that I felt like Lance was a really overrated prospect. He was Fields, but worse in every category but throws with a little more velocity. I was frustrated when we mortgaged our future for him.

I still am, but I don't want him to fail, it just feels like a lot of what I saw is coming to fruition.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Fields, vick, jackson, stunningly athletic qb's with exactly 0 Super Bowls. You gotta be able to read and pass. I can add rg3 kaep to that list too.

I saw him shred the dolphins. He may very well be an outstanding qb but I haven't seen him do it with his arm yet. Cool it with the hot takes.

write this down and keep receipts. Fields comes back to earth this week. And how do you compare a qb who has played 3 games in 2 seasons. You can't gotta wait and see.

Sounds like you want him to fail... strange.

And yet, you take every opportunity to make it known you want Lance to fail……strange

I made it very clear that I felt like Lance was a really overrated prospect. He was Fields, but worse in every category but throws with a little more velocity. I was frustrated when we mortgaged our future for him.

I still am, but I don't want him to fail, it just feels like a lot of what I saw is coming to fruition.

Based on what, 3 games? C'mon dude, you know that's not enough games to know if anything is coming to fruition on Lance. He needs to play, period. Until that happens, we don't know what we got in Lance.

We get it, you didn't like the pick. You don't need to remind us about it in every other post .

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Fields, vick, jackson, stunningly athletic qb's with exactly 0 Super Bowls. You gotta be able to read and pass. I can add rg3 kaep to that list too.

I saw him shred the dolphins. He may very well be an outstanding qb but I haven't seen him do it with his arm yet. Cool it with the hot takes.

write this down and keep receipts. Fields comes back to earth this week. And how do you compare a qb who has played 3 games in 2 seasons. You can't gotta wait and see.

Sounds like you want him to fail... strange.

And yet, you take every opportunity to make it known you want Lance to fail……strange

I made it very clear that I felt like Lance was a really overrated prospect. He was Fields, but worse in every category but throws with a little more velocity. I was frustrated when we mortgaged our future for him.

I still am, but I don't want him to fail, it just feels like a lot of what I saw is coming to fruition.

Deek if your statement was made after 18 starts then sure. I get it. But damn 3 starts? I think most people who say Lance is a bust are deep down disappointed he injured himself. It just helps justify their arguments against Lance stans because...well he physically hasn't been on the field. So yea the needle naturally points towards bust because he hasn't been playing. You can't be good...or bad if you're not out there. Lance fans are equally disappointed in the injury, but we have a wait and see mentality as painful as it has been.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Not to mention it's a horrible comparison. Kap is more of a straight line runner, Fields is a lot more elusive. And Fields is a much more polished passer and further along as a passer in the NFL than Kap was.

This is comically absurd. This is nothing more than rewriting of history based on personal opinions.

My god the bias in Kap is strong in you my friend.

Fields makes all the throws from the pocket and outside the pocket. He's not throw 90mph fastballs every time he drops back to pass.

Give Fields, Jim Harbaugh, Kyle Shanahan or Mike McDaniel. I bet you he'd blow Kaps stats outta the water!!!

Eyeroll at the bolded. You made a claim that Fields is a more polished passer and further along as a passer than Kap ever was. So why is it that Kaepernick has shredded some teams (some very, very good teams at that) with his arms in his 49er career and Fields has not?

Kap shredded the Patriots with his arm IN Foxboro in the snow. Fields has never done that. Kap had a 400 yard, 3 touchdown game in our season opener against the Packers. Fields has never been close to having that type of game. Kap has multiple 300 yard passing games that resulted in wins. Fields has never thrown for 300 yards in a loss.

There is nothing biased about my reply. In no way shape or form is Fields a more polished passer right this second than Kap was in the NFL.

I am not even going to acknowledge the last line in your post. Not interested in arguing hypotheticals.

To be fair to Justin the talent level of his offense pales in comparison to what Kap had vs the Pats that game.

However I do agree with you, you can't say someone is further along as a passer in the NFL when they haven't put that film out there. This is similar to the conversations people were having after the Week 1 game vs Chicago where we heard the "49ers selected the wrong QB" and yet Lance was the better QB in that game as far as NFL level throws. Yes Fields ended up with the W and made the TD throws when our defense blinked and gave him a broken play to take advantage of but you can't make a game plan that relies on the opposing defense creating key penalties on would be 4th down situations and take your TDs only when the defense has broken coverage.

What 49er fans SHOULD be concentrating on isn't that we took the wrong buy but the fact that Fields is DEVELOPING and looks to be getting confidence and improving with more and more time. Same as Tua, same as Jalen Hurts, same as Josh Allen. For the most part these guys need time. Not everyone can come out Mahomes level MVP style. Patience is key. It will pay off.

Originally posted by genus49:
To be fair to Justin the talent level of his offense pales in comparison to what Kap had vs the Pats that game.

However I do agree with you, you can't say someone is further along as a passer in the NFL when they haven't put that film out there. This is similar to the conversations people were having after the Week 1 game vs Chicago where we heard the "49ers selected the wrong QB" and yet Lance was the better QB in that game as far as NFL level throws. Yes Fields ended up with the W and made the TD throws when our defense blinked and gave him a broken play to take advantage of but you can't make a game plan that relies on the opposing defense creating key penalties on would be 4th down situations and take your TDs only when the defense has broken coverage.

What 49er fans SHOULD be concentrating on isn't that we took the wrong buy but the fact that Fields is DEVELOPING and looks to be getting confidence and improving with more and more time. Same as Tua, same as Jalen Hurts, same as Josh Allen. For the most part these guys need time. Not everyone can come out Mahomes level MVP style. Patience is key. It will pay off.

Hurts is balling like crazy and he looked borderline remedial as a passer early on despite having played at Bama and Oklahoma. It's way too early to write off Lance. The talent is undeniable, it's just a matter of consistency and that can't come without regular snaps.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:
To be fair to Justin the talent level of his offense pales in comparison to what Kap had vs the Pats that game.

However I do agree with you, you can't say someone is further along as a passer in the NFL when they haven't put that film out there. This is similar to the conversations people were having after the Week 1 game vs Chicago where we heard the "49ers selected the wrong QB" and yet Lance was the better QB in that game as far as NFL level throws. Yes Fields ended up with the W and made the TD throws when our defense blinked and gave him a broken play to take advantage of but you can't make a game plan that relies on the opposing defense creating key penalties on would be 4th down situations and take your TDs only when the defense has broken coverage.

What 49er fans SHOULD be concentrating on isn't that we took the wrong buy but the fact that Fields is DEVELOPING and looks to be getting confidence and improving with more and more time. Same as Tua, same as Jalen Hurts, same as Josh Allen. For the most part these guys need time. Not everyone can come out Mahomes level MVP style. Patience is key. It will pay off.

Hurts is balling like crazy and he looked borderline remedial as a passer early on despite having played at Bama and Oklahoma. It's way too early to write off Lance. The talent is undeniable, it's just a matter of consistency and that can't come without regular snaps.

I felt Hurts looked like a stud from the moment I saw him play his rook year. Not sure what everyone else was watching. Fields not nearly as strong at the drop back game, but he showed flashes vs MIA had a gorgeous pocket TD pass and a 2 pt conversion pass. The trick imho, as he gets tons of confidence with the legs moving chains, making plays, he starts to get more confident at the drop back stuff. If he develops the drop back pass game he's gonna be a star. With the Bears D gutted, they are going be chasing the game each week he will get his chances to drop back make plays.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
KRAP could not hold a candle to the talent level of Fields.

Guess who he smokes though, playoff performance-wise?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I felt Hurts looked like a stud from the moment I saw him play his rook year. Not sure what everyone else was watching. Fields not nearly as strong at the drop back game, but he showed flashes vs MIA had a gorgeous pocket TD pass and a 2 pt conversion pass. The trick imho, as he gets tons of confidence with the legs moving chains, making plays, he starts to get more confident at the drop back stuff. If he develops the drop back pass game he's gonna be a star. With the Bears D gutted, they are going be chasing the game each week he will get his chances to drop back make plays.

You saw Allen the same way as a rook too right?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I felt Hurts looked like a stud from the moment I saw him play his rook year. Not sure what everyone else was watching. Fields not nearly as strong at the drop back game, but he showed flashes vs MIA had a gorgeous pocket TD pass and a 2 pt conversion pass. The trick imho, as he gets tons of confidence with the legs moving chains, making plays, he starts to get more confident at the drop back stuff. If he develops the drop back pass game he's gonna be a star. With the Bears D gutted, they are going be chasing the game each week he will get his chances to drop back make plays.

You saw Allen the same way as a rook too right?

lol.. 4F6 is week to week..

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I felt Hurts looked like a stud from the moment I saw him play his rook year. Not sure what everyone else was watching. Fields not nearly as strong at the drop back game, but he showed flashes vs MIA had a gorgeous pocket TD pass and a 2 pt conversion pass. The trick imho, as he gets tons of confidence with the legs moving chains, making plays, he starts to get more confident at the drop back stuff. If he develops the drop back pass game he's gonna be a star. With the Bears D gutted, they are going be chasing the game each week he will get his chances to drop back make plays.

You saw Allen the same way as a rook too right?

Can't say I did got no receipts on him

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol.. 4F6 is week to week..

Everyone is an expert in hindsight

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I felt Hurts looked like a stud from the moment I saw him play his rook year. Not sure what everyone else was watching. Fields not nearly as strong at the drop back game, but he showed flashes vs MIA had a gorgeous pocket TD pass and a 2 pt conversion pass. The trick imho, as he gets tons of confidence with the legs moving chains, making plays, he starts to get more confident at the drop back stuff. If he develops the drop back pass game he's gonna be a star. With the Bears D gutted, they are going be chasing the game each week he will get his chances to drop back make plays.

You saw Allen the same way as a rook too right?

lol.. 4F6 is week to week..

MrAllTheTime, what does this mean? I spent all offseason debating ppl likely yourself and others telling me Minshew is better than Hurts.