Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

We need to teach Trey Lance how to baseball slide using the slip and slide!

Originally posted by picklejuice:

We need to teach Trey Lance how to baseball slide using the slip and slide!

They are recreating Week 1 CHI Bear conditions right here

https://youtube.com/shorts/XIvM2y7OozI?feature=share

Fair or not, there will still be questions on his ability to play the position at an nfl level going into year 3

yikes….

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Fair or not, there will still be questions on his ability to play the position at an nfl level going into year 3

yikes….

Like there was for Josh Allen

I get a strange feeling about Trey. Much of Trey's future is in Kyle's hands. What worries me is Kyle and his seemingly inability to trust new players on offense. If Jimmy stays healthy and delivers, I think there is a good chance we resign Jimmy and trade Trey.

This is not a knock on Trey at all. I just wonder if he's a good fit for Kyle. I still scratch my head as to why we drafted Trey in the first place. Numerous NFL experts have pointed out that Jimmy, while not always super accurate, runs Kyle's offense well and Kyle's offense does not need a big armed QB to excel. I agree with that statement! But this doesn't bode well for Trey!

I like Trey and definitely see his upside. I really wanted Kyle to open up the offense and completely redesign his offense from the ground up to suit Trey's strengths. But Kyle is Kyle. He's stubborn.

I'll get flamed for this post I'm sure. But bottom line, I don't see Trey in Red and Gold for long, regardless of how much draft capital we invested.

Originally posted by bigpete50:
I get a strange feeling about Trey. Much of Trey's future is in Kyle's hands. What worries me is Kyle and his seemingly inability to trust new players on offense. If Jimmy stays healthy and delivers, I think there is a good chance we resign Jimmy and trade Trey.

This is not a knock on Trey at all. I just wonder if he's a good fit for Kyle. I still scratch my head as to why we drafted Trey in the first place. Numerous NFL experts have pointed out that Jimmy, while not always super accurate, runs Kyle's offense well and Kyle's offense does not need a big armed QB to excel. I agree with that statement! But this doesn't bode well for Trey!

I like Trey and definitely see his upside. I really wanted Kyle to open up the offense and completely redesign his offense from the ground up to suit Trey's strengths. But Kyle is Kyle. He's stubborn.

I'll get flamed for this post I'm sure. But bottom line, I don't see Trey in Red and Gold for long, regardless of how much draft capital we invested.

No flame here. This is the NFL. Stands for not for long. League changes quick.

On trade guys who don't produce don't have much value. He has yet to produce. I would not trade TL when his value is low from not playing / injured. Best we see what he can give us on the rookie deal, which is an economical deal for a QB. I think we need other good QBs on roster. Can't just say to a guy who gives us 2 starts a season here are the keys, Jack. That is malarkey.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Fair or not, there will still be questions on his ability to play the position at an nfl level going into year 3

yikes….

Why the yikes?

Either he shows he can play or he doesn't. Who cares about the questions in the offseason? My only issue is when people make up sh*t to knock the kid.

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Provided JG continues to play well, he will lead the 49ers into the playoffs. Provided the 49er defense is still playing lights out football, this team could go deep in the postseason. They might even win this thing. But, if that happens, what does Shanahan do next?

Does he continue with the Trey Lance development plan? In other words, declare Trey the starter once again and this time really trade JG away to the highest bidder? Seems like a risky move to make. IF JG does play well, and I capatalized that for a reason because that is a big IF, he will fetch a nice price of picks and possibly players.

I am just wondering how it will be handled this time, or if it will be handled any differently. I suppose circumstances and developments will dictate Shanahan's moves. After all, there's a long way to go. JG could still get injured, leaving the team with Mister Irrelevant at QB.

Jimmy is not under contract with us after this season, so we can't trade him and his contract stipulates we can't tag him. I won't say it's impossible that he'll return (because it never is), but it's probably even more unlikely that he'll return than it was this last offseason.

Damn. You're right.

DAMNN... can you all imagine if we win the Super Bowl and Grappy ends up having a VERY GOOD SEASON and an AWESOME POST SEASON??

Tha'll be a problem for the Brick AFTER Brick Brothers.. NO ??

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
No flame here. This is the NFL. Stands for not for long. League changes quick.

On trade guys who don't produce don't have much value. He has yet to produce. I would not trade TL when his value is low from not playing / injured. Best we see what he can give us on the rookie deal, which is an economical deal for a QB. I think we need other good QBs on roster. Can't just say to a guy who gives us 2 starts a season here are the keys, Jack. That is malarkey.

Yeah imagine the backlash Kyle and John would get if they trade Trey for like a 2nd RD pick and he goes on to light it up for another team while the guy we just gave 35+ to over a 3 or 4 year deal continues to be just a decent QB that can get you to the playoffs but continues to come up short when it matters the most. That's a fireable offense. We would basically be trading 3 1st RD picks for Trey to be somebody else's franchise QB.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Yeah imagine the backlash Kyle and John would get if they trade Trey for like a 2nd RD pick and he goes on to light it up for another team while the guy we just gave 35+ to over a 3 or 4 year deal continues to be just a decent QB that can get you to the playoffs but continues to come up short when it matters the most. That's a fireable offense. We would basically be trading 3 1st RD picks for Trey to be somebody else's franchise QB.

There are days that I think we could have Josh Allen as our starting QB and Kyle wouldn't drastically alter his offense.

The real fireable offense is using that much draft capital to select a QB that doesn't fit what your play caller is seeking.

Thank god we have a good defense and thank god we resigned Jimmy. This is enough to mask the stink of drafting Trey. If we didn't have the solid defense or Jimmy, both Kyle and John would massively be on the hot seat for that bone headed of drafting Trey. Winning hides a lot of stink!

Originally posted by bigpete50:
I get a strange feeling about Trey. Much of Trey's future is in Kyle's hands. What worries me is Kyle and his seemingly inability to trust new players on offense. If Jimmy stays healthy and delivers, I think there is a good chance we resign Jimmy and trade Trey.

This is not a knock on Trey at all. I just wonder if he's a good fit for Kyle. I still scratch my head as to why we drafted Trey in the first place. Numerous NFL experts have pointed out that Jimmy, while not always super accurate, runs Kyle's offense well and Kyle's offense does not need a big armed QB to excel. I agree with that statement! But this doesn't bode well for Trey!

I like Trey and definitely see his upside. I really wanted Kyle to open up the offense and completely redesign his offense from the ground up to suit Trey's strengths. But Kyle is Kyle. He's stubborn.

I'll get flamed for this post I'm sure. But bottom line, I don't see Trey in Red and Gold for long, regardless of how much draft capital we invested.

What gives you that idea outside of speculation?

We have 0 leverage with Garoppolo after the season is over. Check the FA list we have...it's not pretty. I've posted it here before and not gonna do it again but we will need all the cap we can get.

Giving Jimmy a big $ deal, which he will get in your scenario since he will be on the open market essentially and is a QB, is simply not good business.

No matter how well Jimmy plays the rest of the year his limitations are still there. I just can't see the team paying him that big QB money at the cost of the roster depth and talent.

We did draft Trey, Kyle Shanahan is the guy calling the shots so he had a vision whether it was taking shape fast enough or not. It's not a situation where we took Trey and then Kyle took over the team like McVay with Goff.

I won't say it's completely out of the realm of possibility that Jimmy is signed back but I'd be shocked if that was the direction we go with. Trading Trey right now would not improve our cap situation and it would be incredibly stupid because it would be pennies on the dollar in terms of trade value.

Originally posted by genus49:
What gives you that idea outside of speculation?

We have 0 leverage with Garoppolo after the season is over. Check the FA list we have...it's not pretty. I've posted it here before and not gonna do it again but we will need all the cap we can get.

Giving Jimmy a big $ deal, which he will get in your scenario since he will be on the open market essentially and is a QB, is simply not good business.

No matter how well Jimmy plays the rest of the year his limitations are still there. I just can't see the team paying him that big QB money at the cost of the roster depth and talent.

We did draft Trey, Kyle Shanahan is the guy calling the shots so he had a vision whether it was taking shape fast enough or not. It's not a situation where we took Trey and then Kyle took over the team like McVay with Goff.

I won't say it's completely out of the realm of possibility that Jimmy is signed back but I'd be shocked if that was the direction we go with. Trading Trey right now would not improve our cap situation and it would be incredibly stupid because it would be pennies on the dollar in terms of trade value.

Even if we go deep into the playoffs this year, I'm convinced the market for Jimmy will not be huge. Why? He has too many limitations! He doesn't throw deep nor can he consistently throw outside the hash marks. That said Jimmy works well getting rid of the ball fast and amassing YAC. Trey doesn't.

Additionally, Name one offensive coordinator that will change his offense to suit Jimmy's strengths? I think Jimmy resigns and it won't cost much. The team seems to be more in synch with Jimmy. Hate to say it but we are better with Jimmy.

This isn't a knock on Trey! I think we keep Trey around until the right offer comes around. It's not an optimal situation one way or another!

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by genus49:
What gives you that idea outside of speculation?

We have 0 leverage with Garoppolo after the season is over. Check the FA list we have...it's not pretty. I've posted it here before and not gonna do it again but we will need all the cap we can get.

Giving Jimmy a big $ deal, which he will get in your scenario since he will be on the open market essentially and is a QB, is simply not good business.

No matter how well Jimmy plays the rest of the year his limitations are still there. I just can't see the team paying him that big QB money at the cost of the roster depth and talent.

We did draft Trey, Kyle Shanahan is the guy calling the shots so he had a vision whether it was taking shape fast enough or not. It's not a situation where we took Trey and then Kyle took over the team like McVay with Goff.

I won't say it's completely out of the realm of possibility that Jimmy is signed back but I'd be shocked if that was the direction we go with. Trading Trey right now would not improve our cap situation and it would be incredibly stupid because it would be pennies on the dollar in terms of trade value.

Even if we go deep into the playoffs this year, I'm convinced the market for Jimmy will not be huge. Why? He has too many limitations! He doesn't throw deep nor can he consistently throw outside the hash marks. That said Jimmy works well getting rid of the ball fast and amassing YAC. Trey doesn't.

Additionally, Name one offensive coordinator that will change his offense to suit Jimmy's strengths? I think Jimmy resigns and it won't cost much. The team seems to be more in synch with Jimmy. Hate to say it but we are better with Jimmy.

This isn't a knock on Trey! I think we keep Trey around until the right offer comes around. It's not an optimal situation one way or another!

I don't think you are taking into consideration how poorly some QBs in the league are playing. When your options are limited, even "above average" becomes a commodity,

If Jimmy puts up a decent year, dudes gonna get paid.

If trey gets traded I will be pissed. There is no reason to give up on him this early. The trade and the draft picks are already done. Nothing has changed except this 1 injury. This can easily be overcome.