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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
selling what short? From his current spot, he has everything going against him. The odds aren't good.

The NFL can fold the best and smartest athletes. There's no rush, Let Lance acclimate & learn for a year

I don't think shanny will be patient. He'll start to get frustrated when Jimmy misses throws and reads. Then he'll realize he can win with Trey while getting acclimated with the offense.
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Chris Simms needs to f**k the hell off. He's officially a complete s**t for brains. Ranking Lance almost dead last out of 40 QBs that's bogus AF. He's way better than Mac Jones and probably Zach Wilson.
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Chris Simms needs to f**k the hell off. He's officially a complete s**t for brains. Ranking Lance almost dead last out of 40 QBs that's bogus AF. He's way better than Mac Jones and probably Zach Wilson.

One too many concussions.
[ Edited by wysiwyg on May 24, 2021 at 5:15 PM ]
Originally posted by GoldenFortyNiner:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
selling what short? From his current spot, he has everything going against him. The odds aren't good.

The NFL can fold the best and smartest athletes. There's no rush, Let Lance acclimate & learn for a year

I don't think shanny will be patient. He'll start to get frustrated when Jimmy misses throws and reads. Then he'll realize he can win with Trey while getting acclimated with the offense.
Trey hasn't proved anything yet. i get the excitement here, but we can't scew up our future cause we can't wait
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Chris Simms needs to f**k the hell off. He's officially a complete s**t for brains. Ranking Lance almost dead last out of 40 QBs that's bogus AF. He's way better than Mac Jones and probably Zach Wilson.

One too many concussions.
Simms had Lance rated lowly to begin with, and then add in his bff taking the guy he wanted least and actually predicted his BFF would neeever take and you have sour grapes for days and days.
[ Edited by WINiner on May 24, 2021 at 5:21 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Trey hasn't proved anything yet. i get the excitement here, but we can't scew up our future cause we can't wait

Agree to disagree then.

The future is now
If Trey isn't playing, it means we are winning which is a good thing. This is like a win-win.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by FiftyNiner:
Originally posted by Giedi:
I like Lynch, he has a good head on his shoulders. He knows how to handle Kyle. He basically gives Kyle the information Kyle needs to make good decisions. Example, they changed the medical grading system to highlight the potential draftees previous injures. He's able to self scout and learn from the Reuben Foster incidents.

The most important thing I like about John is he knows his job is to support Kyle and not be the coach (opposit of the way Baalke seemed to run things). An added bonus is that he has a great relationship with Mike Shanahan, who he probably has relied on to influence Kyle in a certain direction John thinks he needs to go (possible example is the Kirk Cousins model vs the Mobile QB model). And was able to get Kyle to draft Trey.

Both Kyle and John love football and have a great relationship and I think that's probably the best thing about them I like the most. They could easily have thrown each other under the bus with regards to not drafting Mahomes, but they didn't, instead both learned from that mistake and got Trey.

Yes, his comments about the whole Foster thing were pretty interesting, how he was thinking he could reach him as a person, and how that turned out to be more of Lynch looking at it through his prior player-to-player perspective, where he actually felt he was able to reach people like this, but in his current role the dynamics are just different.

I don't know anything about his relationship with Mike Shanahan, so good to hear that. A reporter was trying to get a scoop from Mike right before the draft, and was surprised that when Mike called him back, the caller ID showed that the call came from the 49ers' Santa Clara headquarters, which meant that Mike was in the building working with them pre-draft, I thought that was awesome.

Agree. I think Mike is one of the more *unofficial* GM's out there in 49er land. I know John is the GM, but if there is another person who has almost as much power in the 49er organization, that would be Kyle's dad. Mike has a relationship with the 49ers and the Yorks since Seifert, and Mike and John Lynch going back to their Bronco days. You don't sent scouting reports, practice tapes and drills, and team meetings to just *anybody* like the 49ers do with Mike.

I have no proof, but I think one of the guys that moved Kyle from the Kirk Cousins QB model to the Steve Young model was his father and the experience he had with Steve Young. If not this draft, at least when Mike and Kyle were coaching RGIII. It's kind of funny but the 2021 49ers, from a personnel grouping standpoint, (specially the OLine and RB positions) look a bit more like the '94 49ers and '97-'98 broncos than ever before.

I think Mike gets too much love from the fans in terms of his importance. I think Adam Peters is the guy who really pulls serious weight with his evaluations.

Yep. Kyle literally answered this question 3-4 times saying as much so. His dad comes around once a year a talks shop and that's it. Like most of Gedi's 49er fan fiction there is very little basis in reality with no sources or links to articles. Just a very active 49ers imagination.

Baseless accusations without proof is a lazy response to, what I think, was a valid opinion. Secondly I advise you to withhold from personal attacks Nutrone06.

Lynch admitted, much to his head coach's chagrin, that he did ask to have his father's input back in 2017 when Kyle first became head coach. Lynch said Mike Shanahan doesn't contribute much but they do tap his brain when they get the chance.
"He doesn't speak much, but he's a very, very valuable resource... He happens to be very knowledgeable and we try to use that as an asset for our organization," Lynch said.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/146652-wasnt-shanahan-lynch-clear-weeks-49ers-rumors-speculation/

Read that quote and then read what you wrote 😂
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Originally posted by ninerjok:
Chris Simms needs to f**k the hell off. He's officially a complete s**t for brains. Ranking Lance almost dead last out of 40 QBs that's bogus AF. He's way better than Mac Jones and probably Zach Wilson.

he MAD still cause his so called friend (KS) led him to believe and let him report that we be takin the Mack Attack !!!
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I need some Trey OTA news.
Originally posted by mayo49:
I need some Trey OTA news.

No news is good news.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Ahmm....no

49ers weren't healthy in 2019...Brady is the GOAT but he wasn't beating that 2019 defense.

We had numerous good bounces? What are you talking about? We played one of the toughest schedules while dealing with some of the worst injury situation in the league that year. We completely outplayed Seattle all year long and needed to beat them at their house to even win their division because they coasted and got a cheap win over us with half the team out due to injury, including the kicker who missed a game winner in OT

Who had an answer for our running game when we were healthy and committed to it? KC didn't stop it, we stopped it.

We don't know if our defense was better then or will be next year. It certainly wasn't great in the 2nd half of the season. Losing Buckner and not having Ford is a downgrade. Getting younger players to develop further and having an actually legit corner in Verrett to play with a great DL is another situation.

Overall I'd say our team is definitely better on paper.

Hear hear. Nice post brother! I concur

Yeah, I must say - that was a good post.

Meh . . . questionable. A lot of games were close that year if I recollect correctly. The Niners could have had 3, 4 more losses if the ball doesn't bounce their way.
I don't knw about "completely outplaying Seattle" either. Both games were really close. That doesn't qualify as "completely outplaying". If you were a Seattle fan, you could (and did) argue that the Hawks were robbed by a pass interference non-call by Warner in the end zone.

Some players did get nicked up during the season, as is to be expected, but they were rested and strong for the push in the playoffs. Luck was on the 49ers side that season.

As rosters go, Defense is a big question mark. New DC. I wouldn't claim that it's better. They have to prove it. We'll have to see how they gel. Offense? Yea should be better. Especially if Lance plays. But as a whole team, you definitely need a complementary defense. We'll see.

Single digit close game wins in 2019

Steelers - where we had 5 turnovers with most of them being completely stupid on our part
Redskins - a game we dominated from start to finish and it was only "close" because of the crazy weather
Arizona - game on short rest, several key injuries in that game and we led 28-17 late in the 4th quarter and it was only close due to an 88 yard TD catch by Andy Isabella (which was almost half of his SEASON total that year)
Saints - yes, one bounce can win or lose this one.
Rams 2 - close game for sure but I'd say Rams got more lucky bounces in that one than we did...considering the talent on each roster that year
Seahawks 2 - would've never been as close as that game was if the refs didn't help them out late. We didn't trail the whole game

You also had single digit close loses in 2019

Seahawks 1 - literally missed game winning FG in OT...with the backup kicker out there
Ravens - tough road game in sh*t weather conditions
Falcons - we win this game if Kittle doesn't try to change hands while carrying the football, his first career fumble and he wasn't touched. We win this game and the week 17 game vs Seattle doesn't even matter to us.

You can pretty much do this for any team btw.

KC in 2019 had 5 single digit wins.

Even NE in 2007 during their 16-0 run had 4 games which were single digit wins.

We had a top 5 offense and defense that year. It definitely wasn't a "lucky" situation. Had our team stayed healthy like Baltimore or teams like that we'd have rolled all year long.

So much this ^
The game against the Falcons we also had seven starters on defense out I believe? Please, it's not even an argument how the injuries impacted some of these other teams. We had the hardest 3 game stretch based on the GB Saints Baltimore which we came a fg away at being 3-0.

Anyways if Trey looks ready for the playoffs then I say bring him in
[ Edited by elguapo on May 24, 2021 at 11:51 PM ]
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Originally posted by GoldenFortyNiner:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
selling what short? From his current spot, he has everything going against him. The odds aren't good.

The NFL can fold the best and smartest athletes. There's no rush, Let Lance acclimate & learn for a year

I don't think shanny will be patient. He'll start to get frustrated when Jimmy misses throws and reads. Then he'll realize he can win with Trey while getting acclimated with the offense.

That's probably how it's going to play out. Jimmy will s**t the bed then Shanny will get Trey in there.
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Saying it now - Trey will be ready to start week 1. Not sure if Shanahan gives him the keys. But, he will be ready.
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Saying it now - Trey will be ready to start week 1. Not sure if Shanahan gives him the keys. But, he will be ready.

Lets hope so, 4ML - I'd love for him to get the starting job sooner rather than later.
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