Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by DASeiler49:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 9moon:
.... that's why KS offense is a GIMMICK.... once that initial target is covered, you see our QBs get into trouble..

When I said that he'll be introduced to the league the way Michael Vick was, it meant that he will only be asked to look for THAT target... it has nothing to do with his intelligence, I wasn't insulting THE FUTURE ..

It's far from a gimmick, we Just need a QB who knows how to go through his progressions and read the D. Having protection helps too, Hopefully we get enough of that with our new draft picks.

BUT that's it..... in this offense, KS designs plays that are meant for that initial target to be open that when they are not, the QB are forced to find a target that may not be there ... and if that QB isn't mobile, they end up eating grass.

Unlike other offenses that are design for the QB to read where the ball should go... and this is the reason why JG's skill has regressed..

Worst take I've seen in here in a long time.

danggggg !!! I just caught all KS's fishes, now they all in ONE pond !!!

Stick to dumb nicknames and awful trade ideas. You are clueless when it comes to actual football.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by DASeiler49:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 9moon:
.... that's why KS offense is a GIMMICK.... once that initial target is covered, you see our QBs get into trouble..

When I said that he'll be introduced to the league the way Michael Vick was, it meant that he will only be asked to look for THAT target... it has nothing to do with his intelligence, I wasn't insulting THE FUTURE ..

It's far from a gimmick, we Just need a QB who knows how to go through his progressions and read the D. Having protection helps too, Hopefully we get enough of that with our new draft picks.

BUT that's it..... in this offense, KS designs plays that are meant for that initial target to be open that when they are not, the QB are forced to find a target that may not be there ... and if that QB isn't mobile, they end up eating grass.

Unlike other offenses that are design for the QB to read where the ball should go... and this is the reason why JG's skill has regressed..

Worst take I've seen in here in a long time.

danggggg !!! I just caught all KS's fishes, now they all in ONE pond !!!

Stick to dumb nicknames and awful trade ideas. You are clueless when it comes to actual football.

I have to agree. To say that Kyle's offense is only designed to get one guy open at a time is absolutely nuts. I'm sure he wants to see 3 or more guys open on some plays. It's up to the receivers to make that happen.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by DASeiler49:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 9moon:
.... that's why KS offense is a GIMMICK.... once that initial target is covered, you see our QBs get into trouble..

When I said that he'll be introduced to the league the way Michael Vick was, it meant that he will only be asked to look for THAT target... it has nothing to do with his intelligence, I wasn't insulting THE FUTURE ..

It's far from a gimmick, we Just need a QB who knows how to go through his progressions and read the D. Having protection helps too, Hopefully we get enough of that with our new draft picks.

BUT that's it..... in this offense, KS designs plays that are meant for that initial target to be open that when they are not, the QB are forced to find a target that may not be there ... and if that QB isn't mobile, they end up eating grass.

Unlike other offenses that are design for the QB to read where the ball should go... and this is the reason why JG's skill has regressed..

Worst take I've seen in here in a long time.

danggggg !!! I just caught all KS's fishes, now they all in ONE pond !!!

Stick to dumb nicknames and awful trade ideas. You are clueless when it comes to actual football.

Moon on a mission to embarrass himself in every thread possible. Impressive.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by DASeiler49:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 9moon:
.... that's why KS offense is a GIMMICK.... once that initial target is covered, you see our QBs get into trouble..

When I said that he'll be introduced to the league the way Michael Vick was, it meant that he will only be asked to look for THAT target... it has nothing to do with his intelligence, I wasn't insulting THE FUTURE ..

It's far from a gimmick, we Just need a QB who knows how to go through his progressions and read the D. Having protection helps too, Hopefully we get enough of that with our new draft picks.

BUT that's it..... in this offense, KS designs plays that are meant for that initial target to be open that when they are not, the QB are forced to find a target that may not be there ... and if that QB isn't mobile, they end up eating grass.

Unlike other offenses that are design for the QB to read where the ball should go... and this is the reason why JG's skill has regressed..

Worst take I've seen in here in a long time.

danggggg !!! I just caught all KS's fishes, now they all in ONE pond !!!

Stick to dumb nicknames and awful trade ideas. You are clueless when it comes to actual football.

It wasen't Kyle that's for sure. Something is up with that knee 50/50 mental vs physical. Still wearing that brace sure looks mental to me.

Every time is see QBOTF my mind automatically reads GTFOH. I'm not sure why but I laugh to myself a little.

Go kick some ass Trey QBOTF Lance!

Go, Trey, go!

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, I think Jimmy is elite at the short and medium range game. The longer passes, he needs to get his lower body mechanics tighter, but he's good at those too. The *biggest* reason ShanaLynch drafted Trey is Jimmy's inability to stay on the field, not because Jimmy is a crappy passer.

Having said that, its ironic that John Elway with his legendary arm, started winning super bowls when he had a great run game and threw the ball basically between the 5 and 15 yard range with Kyle's dad. Only in the forth QTR did you see him uncork some rocket passes that easily went 70 yards when his team was behind. When Steve Young won Lombardi #5, Steve hardly ever scrambled, he usually chucked it out of bounds and lived for another play, and he could do that because he had by then developed into an elite passer.

Trey can become a legend here too, but you got to give him the chance to grow into it, Walsh was very patient with one-read-and-run Steve, before he got the monkey of his back.

Nice post Now young skywalker....you will die!

There once was a kindly elGuapo
Who loved to bike and eat a taco
He took a bite
Turned to the right
And slammed into a door cerrado!

Originally posted by mayo49:
Go, Trey, go!

Originally posted by socal1632:
Trey specializes in Mahommes like rollout 50-55 yard dime throws. It's part of his game. If Kyle runs the Jimmy concrete legs, p***y headed I don't trust my knee offense, HE WILL BE FIRED. Has to be a more mobile qb'd version of the Matt Ryan O. If it means bringing in another good sized deep threat, so be it. That rookie mini camp throw exposition was a little disconcerting. That was an AlexGaroppolo throw session. Looked like Secretariat running 20 yards with the reigns pulled back to his ass. 😬😬

Lmfao see?!

Originally posted by jvangeystel:

Originally posted by 9moon:
BUT that's it..... in this offense, KS designs plays that are meant for that initial target to be open that when they are not, the QB are forced to find a target that may not be there ... and if that QB isn't mobile, they end up eating grass.

Unlike other offenses that are design for the QB to read where the ball should go... and this is the reason why JG's skill has regressed..

Scheming a guy open doesn't mean no one else will be running a serious route. Are you serious right now? Do you understand route combinations and how they are used to attack certain coverages? The qb decides which route combo he likes based on alignment presnap. So on most plays that are well designed with good recievers the first read will be open. Are you suggesting the qb should pass on the first read even if he's open to check the whole field to see if maybe we got someone else that might be open?

If the first read is open that means:
A) The offense is well designed to attack the defense
B) The qb has enough knowledge of NFL defenses to know what they are running despite any disguises
C) Our recievers are running their routes well and gaining separation

I don't know what your obsession with a qb going through 3 or 4 progressions every down is. Also you are heavily implying that it is all Lance can handle on the NFL level and none of us know that either way. This hate for Shanahan is palpable. Saying his offense is a gimmick when he is often touted as a genius and one of the best, smartest young coaches is laughable. When versions of his offense have been successful for years and is becoming the new thing teams want when looking for a new staff. Some people won't be happy unless you win a superbowl every year in fantasy land.

I think you start Lance when he's ready. Hopefully we can trade Jimmy before the deadline. Starting Lance off with a limited version of the playbook DOES NOT mean he's only going to run RPOs or read options. It means they will hold off on all the fancy choreography plays. It means they will use only the concepts that he is used to and ran in college. The point many are trying to make is that he ran a bunch of NFL style route combos and concepts in college. Many that we use here.

Totally agree! I'll just add that Kyle uses a lot of deception to open up the defenses, some of the more obvious examples are the boot-keepers and play-actions. Usually the times the first reads aren't open is when Kyle is way behind and teams aren't buying the fakes.

Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 9moon:
.... that's why KS offense is a GIMMICK.... once that initial target is covered, you see our QBs get into trouble..

When I said that he'll be introduced to the league the way Michael Vick was, it meant that he will only be asked to look for THAT target... it has nothing to do with his intelligence, I wasn't insulting THE FUTURE ..

It's far from a gimmick, we Just need a QB who knows how to go through his progressions and read the D. Having protection helps too, Hopefully we get enough of that with our new draft picks.

BUT that's it..... in this offense, KS designs plays that are meant for that initial target to be open that when they are not, the QB are forced to find a target that may not be there ... and if that QB isn't mobile, they end up eating grass.

Unlike other offenses that are design for the QB to read where the ball should go... and this is the reason why JG's skill has regressed..

Trey specializes in Mahommes like rollout 50-55 yard dime throws. It's part of his game. If Kyle runs the Jimmy concrete legs, p***y headed I don't trust my knee offense, HE WILL BE FIRED. Has to be a more mobile qb'd version of the Matt Ryan O. If it means bringing in another good sized deep threat, so be it. That rookie mini camp throw exposition was a little disconcerting. That was an AlexGaroppolo throw session. Looked like Secretariat running 20 yards with the reigns pulled back to his ass. 😬😬

Oh yeah, specially if Trey has good deep accuracy, bring on the air Coryell offense! next year draft (or this year trade) for a guy that can run a 4.3/40 and have Trey just lazer those 30+ yard outs or 40 yard posts and just bomb secondaries into oblivion!

Originally posted by 9moon:
BUT that's it..... in this offense, KS designs plays that are meant for that initial target to be open that when they are not, the QB are forced to find a target that may not be there ... and if that QB isn't mobile, they end up eating grass.

Unlike other offenses that are design for the QB to read where the ball should go... and this is the reason why JG's skill has regressed..

Every offense runs like that. There is ALWAYS one position the play is intended to get open and then you go to your alternate reads, In EVERY OFFENSE. Every single play is drawn up with one position most likely to be open. It's why it's called going through progressions as a universal term. There is ZERO plays in the NFL drawn up for a QB to just take a general look at the field and decide after the ball is hiked who his #1 is. There may be changes based on the defense, but when the ball is hiked there is a #1 target and if that one is covered then the QB goes to his 2, in every single play on every single offense.

Got into a "debate" on Facebook about trey lance. Apparently someone thought that was by far the biggest reach and he has a 5th round grade on him...

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Got into a "debate" on Facebook about trey lance. Apparently someone thought that was by far the biggest reach and he has a 5th round grade on him...

Well he's wrong - I hope you held your ground.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Got into a "debate" on Facebook about trey lance. Apparently someone thought that was by far the biggest reach and he has a 5th round grade on him...

Well he's wrong - I hope you held your ground.

Well that person has never watched football for a single second.