Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That pass is suppose to be high, it's a out route to the sideline. Either the WR catches it/taps his feet, or the ball is incomplete. You don't throw the ball low there.

I do agree we've seen some passes sail on him (very similar to Hebert/Watson in college) overall looks like he's been putting in the work. That should improve with game reps.

That pass is still too high man. It is something he needs to work on being better at. Looking forward to camp to see him throwing against coverage.

That pass was fine, good lord I can't wait for the season to start.

I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Why do people presume to know where he intended to place it? They might have been specifically repping a tight-window throw over a defender. Not every throw should be between the numbers, and it's silly to assume we know what they were doing with any specificity.

Like his pro day, I don't care about you running around outside the pocket on the move and throwing bombs. I already know you're good at that.

Show me everything inside the pocket throwing into traffic, slants, timing, with A and B gap pressure, mechanics under duress, not under duress, taking snaps under C, shotgun, etc. Hire a dude with a broom. Put teenagers in the middle of the field. Throw balls through a moving tire swing. LOL

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by cciowa:
to me, anyone nitpicking trey on july 15th and then drawing conclusions from said nitpicking.. is akin to being concerned in august that some guy has his hands on his hips cuz he is tired,, and cc is the king of nitpicking... now before cc gets accused of talking out of both sides of his mouth.... he has concerns about the o line but on july 15th is not calling them garbage... just concerned on if it will come together and hoping the team knows what they are doing with the center position

even if hands on hips

even if gire

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Probably was. Not concerned but he's going to have to work on this regardless...Deebo, Gray and Aiyuk aren't exactly tall or big-catch radius like players. You gotta keep that ball down. Unless Jennings, of course. Kittle too can make some 7' one-handed catches too. LOL

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
I expect us to pay Deebo, not sure we will be paying Aiyuk though when his time comes….

could be another Buckner/ Armstead situation that divides the experts, especially if Aiyuk lights it up this year……. Nice problem to have I suppose.

If Deebo is gonna be a diva, I'd rather pay Aiyuk and trade Deebo for three firsts or two firsts and a third and get back out Trey trade picks. With Trey we won't need his running ability. Many other posters have said he thrives inside the numbers, that was what the team needed withn #10 at the helm.

Aiyuk and Jennings can pick up his slack and that Danny Gray kid will be a boost to the O as well. The team still has elite scheming, great defense and great running game. Franchise him perhaps or get the best pick. I can feel the venom coming hahaha 🤣

Edits Grammar and JG number lol

You're likely not getting those type of picks for Deebo. If someone offered 3 firsts Deebo would be gone in a second. Likely if someone offered 2 1sts too.

But honestly 49ers and Deebo need to just figure this out. The Rams basically said F those picks and went in on known studs. Deebo is a known stud. Obviously you always fear someone gets paid and then they pack it in. I don't see that happening with Deebo. This is the same dude who cries after losing a big game. That's a competitor. He's going to want to go out there and get himself into the HOF.

You can't just get rid of a guy who carried our offense and helped give us an identity and act like Aiyuk and Jennings pick up the slack.

Deebo has 0 leverage. A deal will get done.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
I expect us to pay Deebo, not sure we will be paying Aiyuk though when his time comes….

could be another Buckner/ Armstead situation that divides the experts, especially if Aiyuk lights it up this year……. Nice problem to have I suppose.

If Deebo is gonna be a diva, I'd rather pay Aiyuk and trade Deebo for three firsts or two firsts and a third and get back out Trey trade picks. With Trey we won't need his running ability. Many other posters have said he thrives inside the numbers, that was what the team needed withn #10 at the helm.

Aiyuk and Jennings can pick up his slack and that Danny Gray kid will be a boost to the O as well. The team still has elite scheming, great defense and great running game. Franchise him perhaps or get the best pick. I can feel the venom coming hahaha 🤣

Edits Grammar and JG number lol

You're likely not getting those type of picks for Deebo. If someone offered 3 firsts Deebo would be gone in a second. Likely if someone offered 2 1sts too.

But honestly 49ers and Deebo need to just figure this out. The Rams basically said F those picks and went in on known studs. Deebo is a known stud. Obviously you always fear someone gets paid and then they pack it in. I don't see that happening with Deebo. This is the same dude who cries after losing a big game. That's a competitor. He's going to want to go out there and get himself into the HOF.

You can't just get rid of a guy who carried our offense and helped give us an identity and act like Aiyuk and Jennings pick up the slack.

Deebo has 0 leverage. A deal will get done.

Yup, not worried at all him signing long term.

The only concern I have is his conditioning at signing and his chemistry with Trey. That's it.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That pass is suppose to be high, it's a out route to the sideline. Either the WR catches it/taps his feet, or the ball is incomplete. You don't throw the ball low there.

I do agree we've seen some passes sail on him (very similar to Hebert/Watson in college) overall looks like he's been putting in the work. That should improve with game reps.

That pass is still too high man. It is something he needs to work on being better at. Looking forward to camp to see him throwing against coverage.

That pass was fine, good lord I can't wait for the season to start.

I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Why do people presume to know where he intended to place it? They might have been specifically repping a tight-window throw over a defender. Not every throw should be between the numbers, and it's silly to assume we know what they were doing with any specificity.

Like his pro day, I don't care about you running around outside the pocket on the move and throwing bombs. I already know you're good at that.

Show me everything inside the pocket throwing into traffic, slants, timing, with A and B gap pressure, mechanics under duress, not under duress, taking snaps under C, shotgun, etc. Hire a dude with a broom. Put teenagers in the middle of the field. Throw balls through a moving tire swing. LOL

Your preferences are noted but are not the point.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That pass is suppose to be high, it's a out route to the sideline. Either the WR catches it/taps his feet, or the ball is incomplete. You don't throw the ball low there.

I do agree we've seen some passes sail on him (very similar to Hebert/Watson in college) overall looks like he's been putting in the work. That should improve with game reps.

That pass is still too high man. It is something he needs to work on being better at. Looking forward to camp to see him throwing against coverage.

That pass was fine, good lord I can't wait for the season to start.

I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Why do people presume to know where he intended to place it? They might have been specifically repping a tight-window throw over a defender. Not every throw should be between the numbers, and it's silly to assume we know what they were doing with any specificity.

Like his pro day, I don't care about you running around outside the pocket on the move and throwing bombs. I already know you're good at that.

Show me everything inside the pocket throwing into traffic, slants, timing, with A and B gap pressure, mechanics under duress, not under duress, taking snaps under C, shotgun, etc. Hire a dude with a broom. Put teenagers in the middle of the field. Throw balls through a moving tire swing. LOL

Your preferences are noted but are not the point.

Haha.

I'll contact his people. Throwing high left roll outs across his body is overplayed.

Milk Dud...

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That pass is suppose to be high, it's a out route to the sideline. Either the WR catches it/taps his feet, or the ball is incomplete. You don't throw the ball low there.

I do agree we've seen some passes sail on him (very similar to Hebert/Watson in college) overall looks like he's been putting in the work. That should improve with game reps.

That pass is still too high man. It is something he needs to work on being better at. Looking forward to camp to see him throwing against coverage.

That pass was fine, good lord I can't wait for the season to start.

I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Why do people presume to know where he intended to place it? They might have been specifically repping a tight-window throw over a defender. Not every throw should be between the numbers, and it's silly to assume we know what they were doing with any specificity.

Beat me to it...some fans want to see the pass placed perfectly into the WRs hands cuz that's exactly how it goes in the game at all times right? Never is there a defender that you have to get the ball over.

Funny thing is it happens to the greatest QBs. I live in MA and I remember hearing a bunch of Pats fans complaining about Brady's accuracy on some passes. Meanwhile if you listen to Tom talk about ball placement there is a LOT that goes into it. Like plays where it's only your guy or nobody able to make the play or not leading your WR into a big hit(guess Jimmy didn't pay attention in that class :()

But fact is a perfectly placed ball based on what the QB wants to do could look like bad accuracy to many fans who don't realize what's happening on a play.

So yeah we have no idea what he's trying to work on there but that did not look like a "high pass" that looked like a sideline toe tap drill throw. Which makes sense since WRs need to learn how to get their feet down.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That pass is suppose to be high, it's a out route to the sideline. Either the WR catches it/taps his feet, or the ball is incomplete. You don't throw the ball low there.

I do agree we've seen some passes sail on him (very similar to Hebert/Watson in college) overall looks like he's been putting in the work. That should improve with game reps.

That pass is still too high man. It is something he needs to work on being better at. Looking forward to camp to see him throwing against coverage.

That pass was fine, good lord I can't wait for the season to start.

I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Why do people presume to know where he intended to place it? They might have been specifically repping a tight-window throw over a defender. Not every throw should be between the numbers, and it's silly to assume we know what they were doing with any specificity.

Beat me to it...some fans want to see the pass placed perfectly into the WRs hands cuz that's exactly how it goes in the game at all times right? Never is there a defender that you have to get the ball over.

Funny thing is it happens to the greatest QBs. I live in MA and I remember hearing a bunch of Pats fans complaining about Brady's accuracy on some passes. Meanwhile if you listen to Tom talk about ball placement there is a LOT that goes into it. Like plays where it's only your guy or nobody able to make the play or not leading your WR into a big hit(guess Jimmy didn't pay attention in that class :()

But fact is a perfectly placed ball based on what the QB wants to do could look like bad accuracy to many fans who don't realize what's happening on a play.

So yeah we have no idea what he's trying to work on there but that did not look like a "high pass" that looked like a sideline toe tap drill throw. Which makes sense since WRs need to learn how to get their feet down.

Is the correct term Treyexcuses or Lancexcuses?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That pass is suppose to be high, it's a out route to the sideline. Either the WR catches it/taps his feet, or the ball is incomplete. You don't throw the ball low there.

I do agree we've seen some passes sail on him (very similar to Hebert/Watson in college) overall looks like he's been putting in the work. That should improve with game reps.

That pass is still too high man. It is something he needs to work on being better at. Looking forward to camp to see him throwing against coverage.

That pass was fine, good lord I can't wait for the season to start.

I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Why do people presume to know where he intended to place it? They might have been specifically repping a tight-window throw over a defender. Not every throw should be between the numbers, and it's silly to assume we know what they were doing with any specificity.

Beat me to it...some fans want to see the pass placed perfectly into the WRs hands cuz that's exactly how it goes in the game at all times right? Never is there a defender that you have to get the ball over.

Funny thing is it happens to the greatest QBs. I live in MA and I remember hearing a bunch of Pats fans complaining about Brady's accuracy on some passes. Meanwhile if you listen to Tom talk about ball placement there is a LOT that goes into it. Like plays where it's only your guy or nobody able to make the play or not leading your WR into a big hit(guess Jimmy didn't pay attention in that class :()

But fact is a perfectly placed ball based on what the QB wants to do could look like bad accuracy to many fans who don't realize what's happening on a play.

So yeah we have no idea what he's trying to work on there but that did not look like a "high pass" that looked like a sideline toe tap drill throw. Which makes sense since WRs need to learn how to get their feet down.

Is the correct term Treyexcuses or Lancexcuses?

Treasoning.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That pass is suppose to be high, it's a out route to the sideline. Either the WR catches it/taps his feet, or the ball is incomplete. You don't throw the ball low there.

I do agree we've seen some passes sail on him (very similar to Hebert/Watson in college) overall looks like he's been putting in the work. That should improve with game reps.

That pass is still too high man. It is something he needs to work on being better at. Looking forward to camp to see him throwing against coverage.

That pass was fine, good lord I can't wait for the season to start.

I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Why do people presume to know where he intended to place it? They might have been specifically repping a tight-window throw over a defender. Not every throw should be between the numbers, and it's silly to assume we know what they were doing with any specificity.

Beat me to it...some fans want to see the pass placed perfectly into the WRs hands cuz that's exactly how it goes in the game at all times right? Never is there a defender that you have to get the ball over.

Funny thing is it happens to the greatest QBs. I live in MA and I remember hearing a bunch of Pats fans complaining about Brady's accuracy on some passes. Meanwhile if you listen to Tom talk about ball placement there is a LOT that goes into it. Like plays where it's only your guy or nobody able to make the play or not leading your WR into a big hit(guess Jimmy didn't pay attention in that class :()

But fact is a perfectly placed ball based on what the QB wants to do could look like bad accuracy to many fans who don't realize what's happening on a play.

So yeah we have no idea what he's trying to work on there but that did not look like a "high pass" that looked like a sideline toe tap drill throw. Which makes sense since WRs need to learn how to get their feet down.

Is the correct term Treyexcuses or Lancexcuses?

Treasoning.

A Treytor commits Treason.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Anyone see how ESPN had to apologize for airing a fake report from ballsack sports about Ja Morant lol? Literally that's what sports media is now….didn't even take 2 secs to vet it. What a joke.

That's the media today. It's either the rush to be the first or its something they really want to believe so they publish it assuming its true.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That pass is suppose to be high, it's a out route to the sideline. Either the WR catches it/taps his feet, or the ball is incomplete. You don't throw the ball low there.

I do agree we've seen some passes sail on him (very similar to Hebert/Watson in college) overall looks like he's been putting in the work. That should improve with game reps.

That pass is still too high man. It is something he needs to work on being better at. Looking forward to camp to see him throwing against coverage.

That pass was fine, good lord I can't wait for the season to start.

I honestly thought It seemed a little on the high side too. Still early though. Nothing to be concerned with as of right now.

Why do people presume to know where he intended to place it? They might have been specifically repping a tight-window throw over a defender. Not every throw should be between the numbers, and it's silly to assume we know what they were doing with any specificity.

Beat me to it...some fans want to see the pass placed perfectly into the WRs hands cuz that's exactly how it goes in the game at all times right? Never is there a defender that you have to get the ball over.

Funny thing is it happens to the greatest QBs. I live in MA and I remember hearing a bunch of Pats fans complaining about Brady's accuracy on some passes. Meanwhile if you listen to Tom talk about ball placement there is a LOT that goes into it. Like plays where it's only your guy or nobody able to make the play or not leading your WR into a big hit(guess Jimmy didn't pay attention in that class :()

But fact is a perfectly placed ball based on what the QB wants to do could look like bad accuracy to many fans who don't realize what's happening on a play.

So yeah we have no idea what he's trying to work on there but that did not look like a "high pass" that looked like a sideline toe tap drill throw. Which makes sense since WRs need to learn how to get their feet down.

Is the correct term Treyexcuses or Lancexcuses?

Lance not make a big deal about it

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
I expect us to pay Deebo, not sure we will be paying Aiyuk though when his time comes….

could be another Buckner/ Armstead situation that divides the experts, especially if Aiyuk lights it up this year……. Nice problem to have I suppose.

If Deebo is gonna be a diva, I'd rather pay Aiyuk and trade Deebo for three firsts or two firsts and a third and get back out Trey trade picks. With Trey we won't need his running ability. Many other posters have said he thrives inside the numbers, that was what the team needed withn #10 at the helm.

Aiyuk and Jennings can pick up his slack and that Danny Gray kid will be a boost to the O as well. The team still has elite scheming, great defense and great running game. Franchise him perhaps or get the best pick. I can feel the venom coming hahaha 🤣

Edits Grammar and JG number lol

You're likely not getting those type of picks for Deebo. If someone offered 3 firsts Deebo would be gone in a second. Likely if someone offered 2 1sts too.

But honestly 49ers and Deebo need to just figure this out. The Rams basically said F those picks and went in on known studs. Deebo is a known stud. Obviously you always fear someone gets paid and then they pack it in. I don't see that happening with Deebo. This is the same dude who cries after losing a big game. That's a competitor. He's going to want to go out there and get himself into the HOF.

You can't just get rid of a guy who carried our offense and helped give us an identity and act like Aiyuk and Jennings pick up the slack.

Deebo has 0 leverage. A deal will get done.

I say let him play out his contract, if he has a banner year, franchise him until you get a deal done or get leverage on a nice trade.

I would rather the team focus on the defense and not tie up too much at WR. I still think BA, Jennings and Co can carry the torch. Gray is 6'1" and I. Excited to see what he can contribute.

I expect BA and Trey to have tremendous rapport come the regular season. Deebo may become expendable? I know, hard to fathom, but maybe.

Anyway this isn't even the Deebo thread, my bad.