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Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread
Jul 11, 2022 at 6:44 PM
- Koldo
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At the end of the day, if Trey bombs it won't matter how many picks we traded for him cause Lynch and Shanahan will be gone anyway.
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Jul 11, 2022 at 6:58 PM
- Memphis9er
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Can't wait to see how the young fella has improved. I hope to see,
1) improved footwork
2) a little more touch on his short passes
3) passes not sailing high on him
4) less wobble on his throws which I think is from over powering his throwing motion, possibly might be the cause of all of the above.
I wonder how much action he gets in the preseason?
1) improved footwork
2) a little more touch on his short passes
3) passes not sailing high on him
4) less wobble on his throws which I think is from over powering his throwing motion, possibly might be the cause of all of the above.
I wonder how much action he gets in the preseason?
[ Edited by Memphis9er on Jul 11, 2022 at 6:59 PM ]
Jul 11, 2022 at 7:51 PM
- ninerfan818
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Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:https://www.nfl.com/news/kyle-shanahan-explains-49ers-decision-to-trade-up-to-no-3-to-take-trey-lance
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
TECHNICALLY we did trade three for lance
We TRADED 12th pick in 2021
We TRADED 2022 first rounder
We TRADED 2023 first rounder
We got Lance.
think of it this way. If the Dolphins picked trey at #3 and THEN we traded the 2021, 2022 and 2023 picks for him we would end up with the same result.
We USED 3 1sts to acquire Lance we swapped 12 for 3, we traded two future 1sts.
You are correct NY. We traded 2022 1st and 2023 1st (plus a 3rd rounder) in order to move up from 12 to 3. i.e. the "cost" of moving from 12 to 3 was two firsts and a 3rd, not three first's. We definitely "used" 3 first's. No idea why so many people can't grasp that concept. Maybe it's just semantics?
Nope. Read second paragraph from NFL.com.
"The Niners essentially placed their future in Lance's hands, sending three first-round picks to Miami for the right to select the dynamic, dual-threat quarterback. San Francisco doesn't have a first-round pick until 2024 and is also out a third-rounder in 2022."
Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
>>>>Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
Correct, but not relevant since no-one is debating that. Of course we used three first's. The cost of moving up nine spots in the draft ( increasing the value of our existing 1st for a better 1st ) was two additional first's and a 3rd. We used all of them for Lance. Or if you prefer the way it was written by NFL.com, we sent three firsts AND GOT A HIGHER FIRST RETURNED BACK, and all three firsts were used in the pick. Net cost to move up was 2 firsts and a 3rd.....total picks used was 3 first's and a 3rd. It's not rocket science.
True, instill think the Niners could have had him at their Original spot. Fields was going to Chicago no matta what, least I think so, and I don't think Belicheck would have drafted him.
Lawrence and Wilson were locks for 1&2. That's just spilled milk though, I guess. Long as he pans out. Fingers crossed.
Jul 11, 2022 at 8:01 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by ninerfan818:Rumors posted here were saying Atl might consider taking Lance … which could have been true as they screwed up their QB situation by trying to get another QB
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:https://www.nfl.com/news/kyle-shanahan-explains-49ers-decision-to-trade-up-to-no-3-to-take-trey-lance
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
TECHNICALLY we did trade three for lance
We TRADED 12th pick in 2021
We TRADED 2022 first rounder
We TRADED 2023 first rounder
We got Lance.
think of it this way. If the Dolphins picked trey at #3 and THEN we traded the 2021, 2022 and 2023 picks for him we would end up with the same result.
We USED 3 1sts to acquire Lance we swapped 12 for 3, we traded two future 1sts.
You are correct NY. We traded 2022 1st and 2023 1st (plus a 3rd rounder) in order to move up from 12 to 3. i.e. the "cost" of moving from 12 to 3 was two firsts and a 3rd, not three first's. We definitely "used" 3 first's. No idea why so many people can't grasp that concept. Maybe it's just semantics?
Nope. Read second paragraph from NFL.com.
"The Niners essentially placed their future in Lance's hands, sending three first-round picks to Miami for the right to select the dynamic, dual-threat quarterback. San Francisco doesn't have a first-round pick until 2024 and is also out a third-rounder in 2022."
Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
>>>>Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
Correct, but not relevant since no-one is debating that. Of course we used three first's. The cost of moving up nine spots in the draft ( increasing the value of our existing 1st for a better 1st ) was two additional first's and a 3rd. We used all of them for Lance. Or if you prefer the way it was written by NFL.com, we sent three firsts AND GOT A HIGHER FIRST RETURNED BACK, and all three firsts were used in the pick. Net cost to move up was 2 firsts and a 3rd.....total picks used was 3 first's and a 3rd. It's not rocket science.
True, instill think the Niners could have had him at their Original spot. Fields was going to Chicago no matta what, least I think so, and I don't think Belicheck would have drafted him.
Lawrence and Wilson were locks for 1&2. That's just spilled milk though, I guess. Long as he pans out. Fingers crossed.
Jul 11, 2022 at 8:06 PM
- Tigerlaw
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Ya all this discussion is great and all...but what i really wanna know is whether Trey banged his mom's best friend or not
BYU Cougar (hunter) Zach Wilson has the edge there
BYU Cougar (hunter) Zach Wilson has the edge there
[ Edited by Tigerlaw on Jul 11, 2022 at 8:06 PM ]
Jul 11, 2022 at 8:29 PM
- Ghostofabshelmet
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Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Ya all this discussion is great and all...but what i really wanna know is whether Trey banged his mom's best friend or not
BYU Cougar (hunter) Zach Wilson has the edge there
We already got porn star jimmy don't need to follow up with milf hunter Zach
Jul 11, 2022 at 8:31 PM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Can't wait to see how the young fella has improved. I hope to see,
1) improved footwork
2) a little more touch on his short passes
3) passes not sailing high on him
4) less wobble on his throws which I think is from over powering his throwing motion, possibly might be the cause of all of the above.
I wonder how much action he gets in the preseason?
Yra definitely will have eyes on his throwing motion. He needs reps so he might play longer than usual
Jul 11, 2022 at 8:31 PM
- ninerfan818
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:Rumors posted here were saying Atl might consider taking Lance … which could have been true as they screwed up their QB situation by trying to get another QB
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:https://www.nfl.com/news/kyle-shanahan-explains-49ers-decision-to-trade-up-to-no-3-to-take-trey-lance
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
TECHNICALLY we did trade three for lance
We TRADED 12th pick in 2021
We TRADED 2022 first rounder
We TRADED 2023 first rounder
We got Lance.
think of it this way. If the Dolphins picked trey at #3 and THEN we traded the 2021, 2022 and 2023 picks for him we would end up with the same result.
We USED 3 1sts to acquire Lance we swapped 12 for 3, we traded two future 1sts.
You are correct NY. We traded 2022 1st and 2023 1st (plus a 3rd rounder) in order to move up from 12 to 3. i.e. the "cost" of moving from 12 to 3 was two firsts and a 3rd, not three first's. We definitely "used" 3 first's. No idea why so many people can't grasp that concept. Maybe it's just semantics?
Nope. Read second paragraph from NFL.com.
"The Niners essentially placed their future in Lance's hands, sending three first-round picks to Miami for the right to select the dynamic, dual-threat quarterback. San Francisco doesn't have a first-round pick until 2024 and is also out a third-rounder in 2022."
Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
>>>>Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
Correct, but not relevant since no-one is debating that. Of course we used three first's. The cost of moving up nine spots in the draft ( increasing the value of our existing 1st for a better 1st ) was two additional first's and a 3rd. We used all of them for Lance. Or if you prefer the way it was written by NFL.com, we sent three firsts AND GOT A HIGHER FIRST RETURNED BACK, and all three firsts were used in the pick. Net cost to move up was 2 firsts and a 3rd.....total picks used was 3 first's and a 3rd. It's not rocket science.
True, instill think the Niners could have had him at their Original spot. Fields was going to Chicago no matta what, least I think so, and I don't think Belicheck would have drafted him.
Lawrence and Wilson were locks for 1&2. That's just spilled milk though, I guess. Long as he pans out. Fingers crossed.
Maybe, that is an expensive Rumor and a helluva gamble. If he pans out it doesn't even matter anyway. I'm in the school of thought that he will. Can't wait to see him in action!
Jul 11, 2022 at 8:36 PM
- Ghostofabshelmet
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Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:Rumors posted here were saying Atl might consider taking Lance … which could have been true as they screwed up their QB situation by trying to get another QB
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:https://www.nfl.com/news/kyle-shanahan-explains-49ers-decision-to-trade-up-to-no-3-to-take-trey-lance
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
TECHNICALLY we did trade three for lance
We TRADED 12th pick in 2021
We TRADED 2022 first rounder
We TRADED 2023 first rounder
We got Lance.
think of it this way. If the Dolphins picked trey at #3 and THEN we traded the 2021, 2022 and 2023 picks for him we would end up with the same result.
We USED 3 1sts to acquire Lance we swapped 12 for 3, we traded two future 1sts.
You are correct NY. We traded 2022 1st and 2023 1st (plus a 3rd rounder) in order to move up from 12 to 3. i.e. the "cost" of moving from 12 to 3 was two firsts and a 3rd, not three first's. We definitely "used" 3 first's. No idea why so many people can't grasp that concept. Maybe it's just semantics?
Nope. Read second paragraph from NFL.com.
"The Niners essentially placed their future in Lance's hands, sending three first-round picks to Miami for the right to select the dynamic, dual-threat quarterback. San Francisco doesn't have a first-round pick until 2024 and is also out a third-rounder in 2022."
Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
>>>>Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
Correct, but not relevant since no-one is debating that. Of course we used three first's. The cost of moving up nine spots in the draft ( increasing the value of our existing 1st for a better 1st ) was two additional first's and a 3rd. We used all of them for Lance. Or if you prefer the way it was written by NFL.com, we sent three firsts AND GOT A HIGHER FIRST RETURNED BACK, and all three firsts were used in the pick. Net cost to move up was 2 firsts and a 3rd.....total picks used was 3 first's and a 3rd. It's not rocket science.
True, instill think the Niners could have had him at their Original spot. Fields was going to Chicago no matta what, least I think so, and I don't think Belicheck would have drafted him.
Lawrence and Wilson were locks for 1&2. That's just spilled milk though, I guess. Long as he pans out. Fingers crossed.
Maybe, that is an expensive Rumor and a helluva gamble. If he pans out it doesn't even matter anyway. I'm in the school of thought that he will. Can't wait to see him in action!
Not even just the falcons but you also had Rumours of Carolina and Denver being interested in him as well.
Jul 11, 2022 at 8:38 PM
- ninerfan818
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Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:Rumors posted here were saying Atl might consider taking Lance … which could have been true as they screwed up their QB situation by trying to get another QB
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:https://www.nfl.com/news/kyle-shanahan-explains-49ers-decision-to-trade-up-to-no-3-to-take-trey-lance
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
TECHNICALLY we did trade three for lance
We TRADED 12th pick in 2021
We TRADED 2022 first rounder
We TRADED 2023 first rounder
We got Lance.
think of it this way. If the Dolphins picked trey at #3 and THEN we traded the 2021, 2022 and 2023 picks for him we would end up with the same result.
We USED 3 1sts to acquire Lance we swapped 12 for 3, we traded two future 1sts.
You are correct NY. We traded 2022 1st and 2023 1st (plus a 3rd rounder) in order to move up from 12 to 3. i.e. the "cost" of moving from 12 to 3 was two firsts and a 3rd, not three first's. We definitely "used" 3 first's. No idea why so many people can't grasp that concept. Maybe it's just semantics?
Nope. Read second paragraph from NFL.com.
"The Niners essentially placed their future in Lance's hands, sending three first-round picks to Miami for the right to select the dynamic, dual-threat quarterback. San Francisco doesn't have a first-round pick until 2024 and is also out a third-rounder in 2022."
Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
>>>>Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
Correct, but not relevant since no-one is debating that. Of course we used three first's. The cost of moving up nine spots in the draft ( increasing the value of our existing 1st for a better 1st ) was two additional first's and a 3rd. We used all of them for Lance. Or if you prefer the way it was written by NFL.com, we sent three firsts AND GOT A HIGHER FIRST RETURNED BACK, and all three firsts were used in the pick. Net cost to move up was 2 firsts and a 3rd.....total picks used was 3 first's and a 3rd. It's not rocket science.
True, instill think the Niners could have had him at their Original spot. Fields was going to Chicago no matta what, least I think so, and I don't think Belicheck would have drafted him.
Lawrence and Wilson were locks for 1&2. That's just spilled milk though, I guess. Long as he pans out. Fingers crossed.
Maybe, that is an expensive Rumor and a helluva gamble. If he pans out it doesn't even matter anyway. I'm in the school of thought that he will. Can't wait to see him in action!
Not even just the falcons but you also had Rumours of Carolina and Denver being interested in him as well.
Ok, I just think they jumped the gun. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time! Excited to see him play tho!
Jul 12, 2022 at 2:32 AM
- mayo49
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Here's to Trey tearing up the NFC West this year.
Jul 12, 2022 at 5:29 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Ya all this discussion is great and all...but what i really wanna know is whether Trey banged his mom's best friend or not
BYU Cougar (hunter) Zach Wilson has the edge there
We already got porn star jimmy don't need to follow up with milf hunter Zach
HA
Jul 12, 2022 at 8:05 AM
- genus49
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Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:Rumors posted here were saying Atl might consider taking Lance … which could have been true as they screwed up their QB situation by trying to get another QB
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by Ottawa49er:https://www.nfl.com/news/kyle-shanahan-explains-49ers-decision-to-trade-up-to-no-3-to-take-trey-lance
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
TECHNICALLY we did trade three for lance
We TRADED 12th pick in 2021
We TRADED 2022 first rounder
We TRADED 2023 first rounder
We got Lance.
think of it this way. If the Dolphins picked trey at #3 and THEN we traded the 2021, 2022 and 2023 picks for him we would end up with the same result.
We USED 3 1sts to acquire Lance we swapped 12 for 3, we traded two future 1sts.
You are correct NY. We traded 2022 1st and 2023 1st (plus a 3rd rounder) in order to move up from 12 to 3. i.e. the "cost" of moving from 12 to 3 was two firsts and a 3rd, not three first's. We definitely "used" 3 first's. No idea why so many people can't grasp that concept. Maybe it's just semantics?
Nope. Read second paragraph from NFL.com.
"The Niners essentially placed their future in Lance's hands, sending three first-round picks to Miami for the right to select the dynamic, dual-threat quarterback. San Francisco doesn't have a first-round pick until 2024 and is also out a third-rounder in 2022."
Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
>>>>Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.
Correct, but not relevant since no-one is debating that. Of course we used three first's. The cost of moving up nine spots in the draft ( increasing the value of our existing 1st for a better 1st ) was two additional first's and a 3rd. We used all of them for Lance. Or if you prefer the way it was written by NFL.com, we sent three firsts AND GOT A HIGHER FIRST RETURNED BACK, and all three firsts were used in the pick. Net cost to move up was 2 firsts and a 3rd.....total picks used was 3 first's and a 3rd. It's not rocket science.
True, instill think the Niners could have had him at their Original spot. Fields was going to Chicago no matta what, least I think so, and I don't think Belicheck would have drafted him.
Lawrence and Wilson were locks for 1&2. That's just spilled milk though, I guess. Long as he pans out. Fingers crossed.
Maybe, that is an expensive Rumor and a helluva gamble. If he pans out it doesn't even matter anyway. I'm in the school of thought that he will. Can't wait to see him in action!
Not even just the falcons but you also had Rumours of Carolina and Denver being interested in him as well.
Ok, I just think they jumped the gun. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time! Excited to see him play tho!
You're wrong. It's ok to admit
Reports were out there even before the 49ers made their move up that if someone wanted Trey Lance they would need to get to 3. Don't recall which guy was really adamant about the Falcons being infatuated with him.
And the fact is considering we drafted him at 3 and there was no major shock means other teams were seeing the same things that Shanahan and our guys were seeing. I know as fans we have this thought that cuz some guys were projected around pick X in most mock drafts or they come from a school without a ton of publicity that they should go around pick X and anytime a team takes a player higher than pick X in the draft they reached and if they get the player after pick X they got a steal.
Fact is NFL teams know more than we do. Obviously they're not batting 1.000 either but they get a much better look at these kids than we do, that's why you get guys who fall and guys who make big jumps from their projections every draft.
In some cases the teams "reaching" get a stud player and the "steals" turn into nobodies. Here's hoping Trey Lance is a steal and a stud when his career is all said and done...and hopefully that career won't be said and done for a good 20+ years.
Jul 12, 2022 at 8:34 AM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by genus49:
You're wrong. It's ok to admit![]()
Reports were out there even before the 49ers made their move up that if someone wanted Trey Lance they would need to get to 3. Don't recall which guy was really adamant about the Falcons being infatuated with him.
And the fact is considering we drafted him at 3 and there was no major shock means other teams were seeing the same things that Shanahan and our guys were seeing. I know as fans we have this thought that cuz some guys were projected around pick X in most mock drafts or they come from a school without a ton of publicity that they should go around pick X and anytime a team takes a player higher than pick X in the draft they reached and if they get the player after pick X they got a steal.
Fact is NFL teams know more than we do. Obviously they're not batting 1.000 either but they get a much better look at these kids than we do, that's why you get guys who fall and guys who make big jumps from their projections every draft.
In some cases the teams "reaching" get a stud player and the "steals" turn into nobodies. Here's hoping Trey Lance is a steal and a stud when his career is all said and done...and hopefully that career won't be said and done for a good 20+ years.
The consensus on draft day was Mahomes was a reach.
Jul 12, 2022 at 8:56 AM
- genus49
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by genus49:
You're wrong. It's ok to admit![]()
Reports were out there even before the 49ers made their move up that if someone wanted Trey Lance they would need to get to 3. Don't recall which guy was really adamant about the Falcons being infatuated with him.
And the fact is considering we drafted him at 3 and there was no major shock means other teams were seeing the same things that Shanahan and our guys were seeing. I know as fans we have this thought that cuz some guys were projected around pick X in most mock drafts or they come from a school without a ton of publicity that they should go around pick X and anytime a team takes a player higher than pick X in the draft they reached and if they get the player after pick X they got a steal.
Fact is NFL teams know more than we do. Obviously they're not batting 1.000 either but they get a much better look at these kids than we do, that's why you get guys who fall and guys who make big jumps from their projections every draft.
In some cases the teams "reaching" get a stud player and the "steals" turn into nobodies. Here's hoping Trey Lance is a steal and a stud when his career is all said and done...and hopefully that career won't be said and done for a good 20+ years.
The consensus on draft day was Mahomes was a reach.
Exactly. In the end nobody cares if the player does well.
For now unfortunately Trey has to deal with the BS people put out there. They only have so much time to take their shots until he gets a chance to show what he can do.
It's just laughable to me though. Zach Wilson getting all this love on social media for banging his mom's best friend. Is there any doubt that if Trey Lance pulled a move like that we wouldn't be hearing what a distraction he is and how he's not committed to football?