Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm with you, and to be honest that's where I was last year.

So many have been short sighted with Trey (I think Kyle included). Don't think about what's best for your team in week 1.

We are a good enough team to make the playoffs with average QB play and Trey can give us that even before he's ready. By the time the playoffs come around Trey will have developed enough to provide much more.

If Trey could've started last year, he would have. You can ruin a guy by throwing him out there too soon, even get them hurt like happened with Alex Smith.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm with you, and to be honest that's where I was last year.

So many have been short sighted with Trey (I think Kyle included). Don't think about what's best for your team in week 1.

We are a good enough team to make the playoffs with average QB play and Trey can give us that even before he's ready. By the time the playoffs come around Trey will have developed enough to provide much more.

If Trey could've started last year, he would have. You can ruin a guy by throwing him out there too soon, even get them hurt like happened with Alex Smith.

I honestly don't think that would have been the case with Lance. This team has too much talent for something like that to happen. Not playing Lance last season feels like a wasted year of development Imo. We all knew that we would be eliminated at some point with Jimmy at QB, so why not throw Lance out there and see how far he could take us? At the very least, he would have gained some valuable experience. Now here we are with a QB who still lacks experience because the 9ers wanted to give Jimmy one last shot.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm with you, and to be honest that's where I was last year.

So many have been short sighted with Trey (I think Kyle included). Don't think about what's best for your team in week 1.

We are a good enough team to make the playoffs with average QB play and Trey can give us that even before he's ready. By the time the playoffs come around Trey will have developed enough to provide much more.

If Trey could've started last year, he would have. You can ruin a guy by throwing him out there too soon, even get them hurt like happened with Alex Smith.

one of the worst things the niners did not do... not signing garcia to play until alex caught up.. garcia begged nolan.. you can say what you want about garcia but had we signed him and not throw alex out there it would have good better in my opinion

Originally posted by cciowa:
one of the worst things the niners did not do... not signing garcia to play until alex caught up.. garcia begged nolan.. you can say what you want about garcia but had we signed him and not throw alex out there it would have good better in my opinion

If I recall correctly Alex wasn't expected to start that year but injuries to our "top 3" guys forced our hand.

Rattay
Dorsey
Pickett

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm with you, and to be honest that's where I was last year.

So many have been short sighted with Trey (I think Kyle included). Don't think about what's best for your team in week 1.

We are a good enough team to make the playoffs with average QB play and Trey can give us that even before he's ready. By the time the playoffs come around Trey will have developed enough to provide much more.

If Trey could've started last year, he would have. You can ruin a guy by throwing him out there too soon, even get them hurt like happened with Alex Smith.

one of the worst things the niners did not do... not signing garcia to play until alex caught up.. garcia begged nolan.. you can say what you want about garcia but had we signed him and not throw alex out there it would have good better in my opinion

Maybe that big shoulder injury doesn't happen, but Alex would've still been screwed with such an idiot like Nolan.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm with you, and to be honest that's where I was last year.

So many have been short sighted with Trey (I think Kyle included). Don't think about what's best for your team in week 1.

We are a good enough team to make the playoffs with average QB play and Trey can give us that even before he's ready. By the time the playoffs come around Trey will have developed enough to provide much more.

If Trey could've started last year, he would have. You can ruin a guy by throwing him out there too soon, even get them hurt like happened with Alex Smith.

I honestly don't think that would have been the case with Lance. This team has too much talent for something like that to happen. Not playing Lance last season feels like a wasted year of development Imo. We all knew that we would be eliminated at some point with Jimmy at QB, so why not throw Lance out there and see how far he could take us? At the very least, he would have gained some valuable experience. Now here we are with a QB who still lacks experience because the 9ers wanted to give Jimmy one last shot.

Trey literally got injured twice last year playing in limited time. How do you figure he would not have? And you don't think trying to play through said injuries would not have caused him to develop bad habits?

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
It's going to be exciting to see explosive plays on a regular basis this upcoming season!

Last year Trey did this in practice, preseason, and in the regular season.

And now he's going to get a chance to do it in the playoffs!

Trey Lance rolls out left and throws a 50-yard bomb to Trent Sherfield for the TD at #49ers training camp.

(🎥 @49ers)pic.twitter.com/eP3ZLnuurG

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) August 3, 2021

Is that bowman getting burned for a TD?

must be post knee injury bowman.. thanks reid

No that wasn't Bowman

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm with you, and to be honest that's where I was last year.

So many have been short sighted with Trey (I think Kyle included). Don't think about what's best for your team in week 1.

We are a good enough team to make the playoffs with average QB play and Trey can give us that even before he's ready. By the time the playoffs come around Trey will have developed enough to provide much more.

If Trey could've started last year, he would have. You can ruin a guy by throwing him out there too soon, even get them hurt like happened with Alex Smith.

I honestly don't think that would have been the case with Lance. This team has too much talent for something like that to happen. Not playing Lance last season feels like a wasted year of development Imo. We all knew that we would be eliminated at some point with Jimmy at QB, so why not throw Lance out there and see how far he could take us? At the very least, he would have gained some valuable experience. Now here we are with a QB who still lacks experience because the 9ers wanted to give Jimmy one last shot.

Trey literally got injured twice last year playing in limited time. How do you figure he would not have? And you don't think trying to play through said injuries would not have caused him to develop bad habits?

The finger Injury was more of a fluke than anything. As for his second Injury, I think that was a little unfortunate as well. You can't wrap guys up In bubble wrap because you fear them getting hurt. I always thought he should have received all the snaps with the first team through training camp and pre-season, so he'd be better prepared. Look at how much more Improved he looked against the Texans, as apposed to the game against the Seahawks ( 2nd half ) and the game against the cards. Just my opinion though.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I honestly don't think that would have been the case with Lance. This team has too much talent for something like that to happen. Not playing Lance last season feels like a wasted year of development Imo. We all knew that we would be eliminated at some point with Jimmy at QB, so why not throw Lance out there and see how far he could take us? At the very least, he would have gained some valuable experience. Now here we are with a QB who still lacks experience because the 9ers wanted to give Jimmy one last shot.

Well, you weren't one of the coaches seeing him in practice every day, so...
Also, they weren't giving Jimmy one last shot, if Trey had been ready, which Kyle obviously thought he wasn't, he would've started. They felt Jimmy gave us the best shot last year, now they feel Trey has improved enough that he does.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I honestly don't think that would have been the case with Lance. This team has too much talent for something like that to happen. Not playing Lance last season feels like a wasted year of development Imo. We all knew that we would be eliminated at some point with Jimmy at QB, so why not throw Lance out there and see how far he could take us? At the very least, he would have gained some valuable experience. Now here we are with a QB who still lacks experience because the 9ers wanted to give Jimmy one last shot.

Well, you weren't one of the coaches seeing him in practice every day, so...
Also, they weren't giving Jimmy one last shot, if Trey had been ready, which Kyle obviously thought he wasn't, he would've started. They felt Jimmy gave us the best shot last year, now they feel Trey has improved enough that he does.

I'm not sure what that has to do with me giving an opinion on what I thought they should have done. Point Is, Jimmy wasn't the answer. We drafted Lance for a reason. We have some fans on here believing we're gonna miss out on the playoffs because of Trey's Inexperience. You see how that works? A QB doesn't magical transform because he sat out. If Trey Is good enough this season, chances are, he would have been good enough last season too.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Well, you weren't one of the coaches seeing him in practice every day, so...
Also, they weren't giving Jimmy one last shot, if Trey had been ready, which Kyle obviously thought he wasn't, he would've started. They felt Jimmy gave us the best shot last year, now they feel Trey has improved enough that he does.

To be fair, this doesn't add up. I agree at the start of the season it was probably obvious to the coaches JG gave the team the best chance to win. He should have. He should have been miles ahead of Trey at that point. But it's not fair to imply Trey couldn't have given the team a better chance to win (in Dec., Jan., & Feb.) if he had been starting from day one. By the end of the year, Trey might have given the team a far greater chance to win....And, he may not have.

Also, I don't think the team feels Trey gives them a better chance to win this year, per se. I think that's a far more nuanced argument. Further, Trey has had minimal NFL experience. If your argument is the ~150 minutes of regular season play Trey had is enough to sway the coaches from Trey to JG, I question your former assertion that said coaches were confident JG gave them the best chance to win throughout last year. Those two points don't align.

Another poster mentioned inuries, but anyone can get injured at any time. See JG. That being said, I question whether Trey would have been used like a damn fullback against the Cards had Kyle and Trey (as QB1) had a full offseason / season working together.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Well, you weren't one of the coaches seeing him in practice every day, so...
Also, they weren't giving Jimmy one last shot, if Trey had been ready, which Kyle obviously thought he wasn't, he would've started. They felt Jimmy gave us the best shot last year, now they feel Trey has improved enough that he does.

For the zillionth time and was stated during the offseason last year. Jimmy is the starter. Trey will watch and learn.

He let him out there a few snaps to get his pecker wet. That's it. Nothing ever changed. Nothing to do with how good or how bad he was. The kid was barely 21. Hadn't played in a while. Money wasn't an issue. What a golden opportunity for Trey. That is the story.

This years story. We completed last years story. This years story to get Jimmy the heck out of here. Is it physical time yet?

Trey on deck.

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Well, you weren't one of the coaches seeing him in practice every day, so...
Also, they weren't giving Jimmy one last shot, if Trey had been ready, which Kyle obviously thought he wasn't, he would've started. They felt Jimmy gave us the best shot last year, now they feel Trey has improved enough that he does.

To be fair, this doesn't add up. I agree at the start of the season it was probably obvious to the coaches JG gave the team the best chance to win. He should have. He should have been miles ahead of Trey at that point. But it's not fair to imply Trey couldn't have given the team a better chance to win (in Dec., Jan., & Feb.) if he had been starting from day one. By the end of the year, Trey might have given the team a far greater chance to win....And, he may not have.

Also, I don't think the team feels Trey gives them a better chance to win this year, per se. I think that's a far more nuanced argument. Further, Trey has had minimal NFL experience. If your argument is the ~150 minutes of regular season play Trey had is enough to sway the coaches from Trey to JG, I question your former assertion that said coaches were confident JG gave them the best chance to win throughout last year. Those two points don't align.

Another poster mentioned inuries, but anyone can get injured at any time. See JG. That being said, I question whether Trey would have been used like a damn fullback against the Cards had Kyle and Trey (as QB1) had a full offseason / season working together.

An entire season of practice and work during the offseason has made them feel comfortable starting Trey, or they wouldn't be starting Trey and openly trying to trade Jimmy. I don't know why you don't understand that it wasn't just what they saw in games that influenced them. If they thought Trey gave them the best chance, there was no reason not to start him. Again, what they saw overall, not just what they saw in the limited games he played, is why Jimmy started last year, and why Trey is starting this year. It's not complicated.

I think the whole thing with Trey's accuracy and touch last year was his injuried finger. Now that it's healed, you see what the kid's arm possesses.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I'm with you, and to be honest that's where I was last year.

So many have been short sighted with Trey (I think Kyle included). Don't think about what's best for your team in week 1.

We are a good enough team to make the playoffs with average QB play and Trey can give us that even before he's ready. By the time the playoffs come around Trey will have developed enough to provide much more.

If Trey could've started last year, he would have. You can ruin a guy by throwing him out there too soon, even get them hurt like happened with Alex Smith.

That's absolute nonsense, Trey obviously could have started last year, because he did! If he wasn't ready at all he'd have been the No3 like Jordan Love was.

They simply decided that Jimmy was the better option and also that Trey would benefit more by learning behind him.

It was a reasonable thing to do, I just disagree that it was the right thing to do. I'm not using hindsight either, it's what I thought from the start.

Hey, we got to the NFC Championship game so can't really complain too much.