Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Uhhhh,....no. The underlined things aren't facts at all. They're just your interpretation of things because you want someone else to be the starter.

He has no clue what he's talking about as usual. Like Genus just said, a touch pass has nothing to do with how open a player is. Can't believe that even has to be said.

You never explain yourself because you can't but tell me how this requires touch. Lol it's wide open. Or just disappear after getting your daily me obsession fix at 8 in the morning like always. How is throwing to a wide open guy with about 17 yards window a touch pass? It doesn't get much more wide open than this, yet you guys are claiming this required touch lol.

Thx.

Dude get over it. Touch doesn't have anything to do with hitting a tight window. Guys can be wide open, guarded super close or whatever else there is and the throw can come with touch.

Touch impacts timing, ease of making the catch and yes typically used when the QB has to get the ball over defenders.

Throwing that with touch ensures the ball gets over the underneath defenders and drops into where his WR is expected to be. This isn't rocket science. There are way more complex things to this sport than what a touch pass means and why QBs use it even when guys are "wide open"

Try dumbing down even more, he still doesn't understand.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Uhhhh,....no. The underlined things aren't facts at all. They're just your interpretation of things because you want someone else to be the starter.

He has no clue what he's talking about as usual. Like Genus just said, a touch pass has nothing to do with how open a player is. Can't believe that even has to be said.

You never explain yourself because you can't but tell me how this requires touch. Lol it's wide open. Or just disappear after getting your daily me obsession fix at 8 in the morning like always. How is throwing to a wide open guy with about 17 yards window a touch pass? It doesn't get much more wide open than this, yet you guys are claiming this required touch lol.

Thx.

Dude get over it. Touch doesn't have anything to do with hitting a tight window. Guys can be wide open, guarded super close or whatever else there is and the throw can come with touch.

Touch impacts timing, ease of making the catch and yes typically used when the QB has to get the ball over defenders.

Throwing that with touch ensures the ball gets over the underneath defenders and drops into where his WR is expected to be. This isn't rocket science. There are way more complex things to this sport than what a touch pass means and why QBs use it even when guys are "wide open"

Try dumbing down even more, he still doesn't understand.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Agree to disagree. I still maintain that it was throwing to an open spot, which he executed perfectly but it wasn't a touch pass. I reiterate that's not a hit on Trey. He did exactly as he supposed to and hit the open spot. It's a good throw but it was into a 5+ yard window, which during release there wasn't a man for at least 12 yards. Anyways this is not a big deal as I do think Lance has exhibited touch as I've pointed out just not here.

Screen passes require touch, and that condition has nothing to do with placing the ball in a tiny whole.

From BILL WALSH:
"Arm strength is somewhat misleading. Some players can throw 80 yards, but they aren't good passers. Good passing has to do with accuracy, timing, and throwing a ball with touch so it is catchable."

Throwing with touch means light, arcing passes. Nice, feathery, catchable balls.

K. Agree to disagree. I'm over this conversation. I've said Trey has displayed touch.

I'll have to disagree on agreeing. You can't just make up term definitions that are in conflict with known terms. Then you'll have people talking about "red light" in order to excuse why a wide open pass wasn't throw.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Uhhhh,....no. The underlined things aren't facts at all. They're just your interpretation of things because you want someone else to be the starter.

He has no clue what he's talking about as usual. Like Genus just said, a touch pass has nothing to do with how open a player is. Can't believe that even has to be said.

You never explain yourself because you can't but tell me how this requires touch. Lol it's wide open. Or just disappear after getting your daily me obsession fix at 8 in the morning like always. How is throwing to a wide open guy with about 17 yards window a touch pass? It doesn't get much more wide open than this, yet you guys are claiming this required touch lol.

Thx.

Dude get over it. Touch doesn't have anything to do with hitting a tight window. Guys can be wide open, guarded super close or whatever else there is and the throw can come with touch.

Touch impacts timing, ease of making the catch and yes typically used when the QB has to get the ball over defenders.

Throwing that with touch ensures the ball gets over the underneath defenders and drops into where his WR is expected to be. This isn't rocket science. There are way more complex things to this sport than what a touch pass means and why QBs use it even when guys are "wide open"

Try dumbing down even more, he still doesn't understand.

Told ya. The add nothing ever but anger man strikes. ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol Relax for once.

Here's another touch pass.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Agree to disagree. I still maintain that it was throwing to an open spot, which he executed perfectly but it wasn't a touch pass. I reiterate that's not a hit on Trey. He did exactly as he supposed to and hit the open spot. It's a good throw but it was into a 5+ yard window, which during release there wasn't a man for at least 12 yards. Anyways this is not a big deal as I do think Lance has exhibited touch as I've pointed out just not here.

Screen passes require touch, and that condition has nothing to do with placing the ball in a tiny whole.

From BILL WALSH:
"Arm strength is somewhat misleading. Some players can throw 80 yards, but they aren't good passers. Good passing has to do with accuracy, timing, and throwing a ball with touch so it is catchable."

Throwing with touch means light, arcing passes. Nice, feathery, catchable balls.

K. Agree to disagree. I'm over this conversation. I've said Trey has displayed touch.

I'll have to disagree on agreeing. You can't just make up term definitions that are in conflict with known terms. Then you'll have people talking about "red light" in order to excuse why a wide open pass wasn't throw.

It was literally the definition of a touch pass. Not sure why this is even a debate.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Dear god the offseason people get desperate for conversation. Fighting over the definition of a touch pass.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Dear god the offseason people get desperate for conversation. Fighting over the definition of a touch pass.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

If there's one thing mac jones does well, it's the touch pass. I think Bourne even described it as catching a pillow.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
If there's one thing mac jones does well, it's the touch pass. I think Bourne even described it as catching a pillow.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Bourne better have been in tight coverage or he don't know s**t.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Uhhhh,....no. The underlined things aren't facts at all. They're just your interpretation of things because you want someone else to be the starter.

He has no clue what he's talking about as usual. Like Genus just said, a touch pass has nothing to do with how open a player is. Can't believe that even has to be said.

You never explain yourself because you can't but tell me how this requires touch. Lol it's wide open. Or just disappear after getting your daily me obsession fix at 8 in the morning like always. How is throwing to a wide open guy with about 17 yards window a touch pass? It doesn't get much more wide open than this, yet you guys are claiming this required touch lol.

Thx.

Dude get over it. Touch doesn't have anything to do with hitting a tight window. Guys can be wide open, guarded super close or whatever else there is and the throw can come with touch.

Touch impacts timing, ease of making the catch and yes typically used when the QB has to get the ball over defenders.

Throwing that with touch ensures the ball gets over the underneath defenders and drops into where his WR is expected to be. This isn't rocket science. There are way more complex things to this sport than what a touch pass means and why QBs use it even when guys are "wide open"

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Bourne better have been in tight coverage or he don't know s**t.

He usually is.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
If there's one thing mac jones does well, it's the touch pass. I think Bourne even described it as catching a pillow.

Uh-oh! You brought up the one name not allowed to be spoken in this thread.