Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Similar easy throw actually and Trey will miss easy ones too. Every QB does if you actually watch football just not act like you do.

Not really similar. Jimmy had a wide open Juice with no one around him….Trey had a play to Sheffield with S/DB above him. He had to layer that throw in. Yes you should expect your starter to make both those throws

No he didn't lol. The safety was a good 15 yards away when he threw it. It was an easy throw. Yes one that Jimmy missed but it was wide open. Again that's not a hit on Trey as he hit the easy throw so there is nothing negative about it but to act like it was some magical throw. It was a good throw to a wide open guy. The announcer even says "wide open".

Again no hate towards Trey, it was a good throw but not some amazing touch pass. The one I provided was much better.

Here's the All 22 footage and breakdown of the play starting at 1:06 mark. It shows Trey recognizing the Cover 1 defense of man-to-man coverage with a single high safety, and throwing with anticipation to Sherfield in stride 26 yards downfield outside the numbers. Not an easy throw, he just makes it look effortless.

It shows pre-snap recognition, anticipation, touch and accuracy. Jimmy can't make that pass with any consistency.

Also, nice blitz pick up on the LB by the RB.

.@49ers @treylance09 and some highlights from the "Trey Lance Show". What isn't there to like. Sure acts like he belongs Got 35 snaps last night. Keep working #5. Liking what I am seeing. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/3wzmF819lB

— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) August 23, 2021

Yup good throw, I haven't denied that but not a touch pass. I'm not sure why that triggered these guys beyond human capability.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I want development as well. Call me greedy but want wins too to go along with that. Like RW and Tom early years on stacked teams.

Im sure players like Trent Williams, Warner, Bosa, Juice, Ward, Kittle, Armstead would agree, and believe our time is now to make a run youngin at QB or not.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Originally posted by Chance:
FFS can the season start already?

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Chance:
FFS can the season start already?

do you even know what a touch pass is bro

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Agree to disagree. I still maintain that it was throwing to an open spot, which he executed perfectly but it wasn't a touch pass. I reiterate that's not a hit on Trey. He did exactly as he supposed to and hit the open spot. It's a good throw but it was into a 5+ yard window, which during release there wasn't a man for at least 12 yards. Anyways this is not a big deal as I do think Lance has exhibited touch as I've pointed out just not here.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Based on the little we've seen out of OTAs, the teams response to Mack retiring might be to just have Trey do more simulated pressure drills. (Gif not related)

Take a 20 yard shotgun snap and stop worrying about the pass rush. Trey's arm is good enough. He can throw 30 yards for 5 yards + 15 more in YAC. Problem solved.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Agree to disagree. I still maintain that it was throwing to an open spot, which he executed perfectly but it wasn't a touch pass. I reiterate that's not a hit on Trey. He did exactly as he supposed to and hit the open spot. It's a good throw but it was into a 5+ yard window, which during release there wasn't a man for at least 12 yards. Anyways this is not a big deal as I do think Lance has exhibited touch as I've pointed out just not here.

Screen passes require touch, and that condition has nothing to do with placing the ball in a tiny whole.

From BILL WALSH:
"Arm strength is somewhat misleading. Some players can throw 80 yards, but they aren't good passers. Good passing has to do with accuracy, timing, and throwing a ball with touch so it is catchable."

Throwing with touch means light, arcing passes. Nice, feathery, catchable balls.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Agree to disagree. I still maintain that it was throwing to an open spot, which he executed perfectly but it wasn't a touch pass. I reiterate that's not a hit on Trey. He did exactly as he supposed to and hit the open spot. It's a good throw but it was into a 5+ yard window, which during release there wasn't a man for at least 12 yards. Anyways this is not a big deal as I do think Lance has exhibited touch as I've pointed out just not here.

Screen passes require touch, and that condition has nothing to do with placing the ball in a tiny whole.

From BILL WALSH:
"Arm strength is somewhat misleading. Some players can throw 80 yards, but they aren't good passers. Good passing has to do with accuracy, timing, and throwing a ball with touch so it is catchable."

Throwing with touch means light, arcing passes. Nice, feathery, catchable balls.

K. Agree to disagree. I'm over this conversation. I've said Trey has displayed touch.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
5 yards open is not a touch pass. That is wide open in NFL standards. Like WIIIIDE open.

Anyways no big deal, he hit the throw. I'm not trying to bring down Trey I'm just pointing out facts. Trey hit a good throw so all credit to him.

Definition of a touch pass. Dropped it in a spot that made it a safe catch and run for the WR. There was a 5 yard pocket. It wasn't a rocket throw outside of the numbers.

The target area need not be small by your own definition (often). The point is that it has high arc and floats to the right spot.

https://fourvertsfootball.com/what-is-a-touch-pass-in-football-terminology/

"A touch pass in football refers to a forward pass from the quarterback that travels at a slow speed and usually has a high arching flight path. In other words, this pass will travel high and slowly towards the intended receiver."

This definition is more accurate and explanatory than yours.

Agree to disagree. I still maintain that it was throwing to an open spot, which he executed perfectly but it wasn't a touch pass. I reiterate that's not a hit on Trey. He did exactly as he supposed to and hit the open spot. It's a good throw but it was into a 5+ yard window, which during release there wasn't a man for at least 12 yards. Anyways this is not a big deal as I do think Lance has exhibited touch as I've pointed out just not here.

Screen passes require touch, and that condition has nothing to do with placing the ball in a tiny whole.

From BILL WALSH:
"Arm strength is somewhat misleading. Some players can throw 80 yards, but they aren't good passers. Good passing has to do with accuracy, timing, and throwing a ball with touch so it is catchable."

Throwing with touch means light, arcing passes. Nice, feathery, catchable balls.

K. Agree to disagree. I'm over this conversation. I've said Trey has displayed touch.

I'll have to disagree on agreeing. You can't just make up term definitions that are in conflict with known terms. Then you'll have people talking about "red light" in order to excuse why a wide open pass wasn't throw.