Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
So then you're not a fan of Patrick Mahomes 25th ranked IAY at 7.3. Or his 30th ranked CAY/comp of 4.9?

Also, I seen posters talk about Josh Allen, Jimmy G. Tom Brady, Colin Kaepernick. JaMarcus Russell etc.... didn't know we drew the line at Mac Jones

We ALL know why you brought up Mac. You got a boner for him. Go get you McCorkle love on elsewhere.

yeah overall Mahomes wasn't as good as he's been in the past. He still made those BTT when It was needed. Not against the Jets.

Bama's burner account?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
The revolution is coming.
.....
The safeties also have to start at a lower depth, and you can see just how low both safeties are in the Alabama clip. Because the underneath defenders can get pulled away from the middle of the field, the safeties have to be able to sit and drive on intermediate in-breaking routes without underneath cover. Again, the NFL might not think that playing safeties that low against the world-class speed at the slot receiver position is a winning business model.

Just as Cover 3 defenses have evolved to include match defenses, so too must quarters looks. There are so many more match-quarters variants than there are Cover 3-match variants, so defenses can keep the offense at bay at least schematically.

The next evolution of defense is coming, and we are most likely only a few years from entering the quarters bubble. When we get there, teams must continually evolve to keep offenses guessing as to where exactly the individual defenders will end up based on the distribution of the receiver routes.

there's some clips but I can't post those

Thanks NY. The bolded part I just alluded to this morning in the "Will the offense be different with Lance" in reference to the Danny Gray selection.

. Thanks NY.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You never agree with me on most things…to think you would agree with what numbers I value, well that would be shocking to say the least. You won't admit it but you go out of your way to find any way to disagree with me (play devils advocate) or prove me wrong about most things in here. At this point it doesn't bother me, I expect it.

oh and just make sure to double check data when you want to try and prove someone wrong

To be fair I play devil's advocate pretty much in RL as well. It's not just you.

As for agreeing with your numbers. It has nothing to do with me and those numbers. I again was just posting the irony of a guy you hate posting better arbitrary numbers than the guy you want the guy you love to be. Was basically just Saying McCorkle is better than you gave him credit for.

No more no less

I usually do. But don't care to pay for services to get said data

Originally posted by Deebo:
Bama's burner account?

Lol. I have no reason to hide. Nor do I give anyone a reason to warn me let alone ban me.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Deebo:
Bama's burner account?

Lol. I have no reason to hide. Nor do I give anyone a reason to warn me let alone ban me.

I may give krizay s**t for his views but he isnt a bama burner and ill defend his account

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
I may give krizay s**t for his views but he isnt a bama burner and ill defend his account

Yea I'm not a one size fits all kind of guy

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
The revolution is coming.
.....
The safeties also have to start at a lower depth, and you can see just how low both safeties are in the Alabama clip. Because the underneath defenders can get pulled away from the middle of the field, the safeties have to be able to sit and drive on intermediate in-breaking routes without underneath cover. Again, the NFL might not think that playing safeties that low against the world-class speed at the slot receiver position is a winning business model.

Just as Cover 3 defenses have evolved to include match defenses, so too must quarters looks. There are so many more match-quarters variants than there are Cover 3-match variants, so defenses can keep the offense at bay at least schematically.

The next evolution of defense is coming, and we are most likely only a few years from entering the quarters bubble. When we get there, teams must continually evolve to keep offenses guessing as to where exactly the individual defenders will end up based on the distribution of the receiver routes.

there's some clips but I can't post those

Thanks NY. The bolded part I just alluded to this morning in the "Will the offense be different with Lance" in reference to the Danny Gray selection.

Nice nice. I'll have to read it

Originally posted by Deebo:
Bama's burner account?

Bring back BamaNiner

Originally posted by krizay:
To be fair I play devil's advocate pretty much in RL as well. It's not just you.

As for agreeing with your numbers. It has nothing to do with me and those numbers. I again was just posting the irony of a guy you hate posting better arbitrary numbers than the guy you want the guy you love to be. Was basically just Saying McCorkle is better than you gave him credit for.

No more no less

I usually do. But don't care to pay for services to get said data

Only the numbers you suggested (some of them) were actually inaccurate. I will say Jones' aDOT is higher than what I speculated it was. That's a plus for him in my book.

I also value what a QB does when they are called to step up when the rest of the team isn't setting you up for layup wins and favorable situations. I live in a area with a lot of friends that are NE fans. I'm forced to watch them weekly and watch what Jones does quite a bit.

I disagree it's nothing more nothing less. It's consistent with you and has been on numerous things for yrs. Like I said I expect it. I could say the sky is blue and you'd argue and say it's sapphire lol.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Deebo:
Bama's burner account?

Lol. I have no reason to hide. Nor do I give anyone a reason to warn me let alone ban me.

I may give krizay s**t for his views but he isnt a bama burner and ill defend his account

Same

It's pathetic how quickly posters are to try and ban others when they don't like how the conversation is going.

Tbh, I only see one side name calling and attacking posters instead of the post. Other than that, I actually enjoy they back and forth. Good points coming from both sides.

Originally posted by thl408:
Thanks NY. The bolded part I just alluded to this morning in the "Will the offense be different with Lance" in reference to the Danny Gray selection.

Thanks for that thl. I referenced Danny Gray with our offense for NC when he a said that I couldn't use the offense ran in ATL and said it had to be THIS off-season for indication of change. You did it much better than me 🤙🏾

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Only the numbers you suggested (some of them) were actually inaccurate. I will say Jones' aDOT is higher than what I speculated it was. That's a plus for him in my book.

I also value what a QB does when they are called to step up when the rest of the team isn't setting you up for layup wins and favorable situations. I live in a area with a lot of friends that are NE fans. I'm forced to watch them weekly and watch what Jones does quite a bit.

I disagree it's nothing more nothing less. It's consistent with you and has been on numerous things for yrs. Like I said I expect it. I could say the sky is blue and you'd argue and say it's sapphire lol.

My posts are in response to your topics or in this case arbitrary numbers. Your responses in turn lead us off the topic to give the illusion that I'm arguing the color of the sky. Which is exactly where we are now.

As we've discussed before. You can get defensive then the whole conversation is derailed.

You can say its consistent with me but It's not just me that I see this happening to with you.

I got nothing against you personally. We're all just posting our opinions and we'll never all agree on things. We all view the players and the team through our own prism.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
It's pathetic how quickly posters are to try and ban others when they don't like how the conversation is going.

Tbh, I only see one side name calling and attacking posters instead of the post. Other than that, I actually enjoy they back and forth. Good points coming from both sides.

Who's talking about banning anyone? People are calling out a poster who's been banned for a reason previously.

Originally posted by krizay:
My posts are in response to your topics or in this case arbitrary numbers. Your responses in turn lead us off the topic to give the illusion that I'm arguing the color of the sky. Which is exactly where we are now.

As we've discussed before. You can get defensive then the whole conversation is derailed.

You can say its consistent with me but It's not just me that I see this happening to with you.

I got nothing against you personally. We're all just posting our opinions and we'll never all agree on things. We all view the players and the team through our own prism.

Nah your debates with me are based around simply wanting to prove me wrong regardless of what it is…you've even admitted it in the past. you said "you want to keep me in check" like what I'm saying isn't truthful or I don't try to provide data to backup my takes. You talk about arbitrary numbers, yet you post the same "arbitrary numbers" all the same, yet because it's coming from you then it actually should matter?

Who else is constantly trying to disagree with me? Outside of the couple posters who have some sort of narrative to push in here whether it's about Jimmy or our HC. I can be passionate about what I say, no doubt. I'm not looking at a poster and immediately disagreeing with what they have to say though (maybe moon, but I mean come on lol).

I know I'm not right about everything, but guess what neither are you…that goes for every single person in here.

I got nothing against you either…I just know you will disagree with damn near everything I say in here, there's a reason for that outside of just having different takes imo. Like I said, I'm fine with it but I expect it. It's constant. This isn't derailing either, it's just pointing out something that's been obvious for a while.

just my two cents. We can move on