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May 12, 2022 at 3:20 PM
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Dude, we didn't invest in him. You stated that he did nothing special. I point out that his performance was comparable to many of the top rookie QB seasons of NFL history. You lost the argument and you refuse to accept it. I like you NY. You are a great poster on this forum. However, your biggest flaw is admitting when you are wrong and just move on.

Good luck with that lmao

He's admitted he was wrong more than you people did about Super Bowl winning QB and "loser" who just "doesn't win" Matthew Stafford.

I am guessing you are responding to bay2bay exclusively because I never posted my opinion on that subject. For what its worth, I've always liked Stafford. He put up good numbers year after year inspite of him being on a bottom feeder team.

I was talking to him, but it doesn't even necessarily apply to him. Just the Jimmy Club guys who refused to admit there was another QB in the NFL better than Jimmy.

But I do think Jones can be one of the better, even possibly elite QBs in the league (in the way that Rivers, Brees, Brady and Manning were). As I said in my other post, he has a large set of passes, he's accurate, he moves well in the pocket, he's pretty good under pressure. It's simply a matter of whether or not he can improve all the things he's good at, and take it to the next level.

But he'll never have Lance's ceiling. Lance has the physical ability to be RoboQB, so long as he improves all his weaknesses and continues to master the NFL game.

I have never heard anyone ever make that claim, lol. That's as an absurd a statement as claiming Jimmy is the best QB.

Go look through the Stafford thread. There were some who made the argument, and the argument that they were basically the same QB. This triggered me immensely, because it's patently idiotic. Stafford is simply in another class, period.
May 12, 2022 at 3:30 PM
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm not going to promise you that I wouldn't tear.down trey because I, like many on here, become irrational during the game. But i do have ability to come back to earth and look at it with a neutral observation. Mac by no means looked good in that game. But he was definitely not the reason they lost. That whole team looked like s**t, and the bills and their fans were clearly on something. It was like 20 years of pent-up frustration from brady was taken out in 1 game. Putting it all on Mac isn't fair, and expecting a rookie to play like a 10 year vet in that environment is also unfair. But yeah he should have played better.

I've promised myself that I would be patient with Lance this year. Whether i actually do that remains to be seen.

That's fine and I'm happy to hear that.

as far as Mac goes vs the Bills he most certainly was a reason they lost. Which is fine he's a rookie, if you want to talk about the good stuff you gotta be able to have a conversation about the bad stuff too.
May 12, 2022 at 3:33 PM
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm not going to promise you that I wouldn't tear.down trey because I, like many on here, become irrational during the game. But i do have ability to come back to earth and look at it with a neutral observation. Mac by no means looked good in that game. But he was definitely not the reason they lost. That whole team looked like s**t, and the bills and their fans were clearly on something. It was like 20 years of pent-up frustration from brady was taken out in 1 game. Putting it all on Mac isn't fair, and expecting a rookie to play like a 10 year vet in that environment is also unfair. But yeah he should have played better.

I've promised myself that I would be patient with Lance this year. Whether i actually do that remains to be seen.

100% of posts in the gameday thread are emotional, and should not be taken as reflections of how a poster truly feels. I'm with you on this. Now if someone is repeating the same thing they said in a gameday thread on Wednesday, that is a different story.
May 12, 2022 at 3:34 PM
get your mac jones, out of my Trey Lance's thread.
May 12, 2022 at 3:41 PM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
For every five Elway's there are thousands of Nick Mullens's.

Most overrated QB in NFL history.
May 12, 2022 at 3:58 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's fine and I'm happy to hear that.

as far as Mac goes vs the Bills he most certainly was a reason they lost. Which is fine he's a rookie, if you want to talk about the good stuff you gotta be able to have a conversation about the bad stuff too.

If you want to put a loss squarely on a rookie qb when the defense gave up 47 points, almost 500 yards of offense and didn't force a punt all game, you must really hate him. As critical as I may be with Trey. Id never put that kind of loss on him.
May 12, 2022 at 4:05 PM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I can attest that NYniner85 was way, WAY off on Mahomes.

Yup. So were a lot of people. To be fair what I had issue with was legit. Talent ended up being the bigger then all those issues
[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 12, 2022 at 4:13 PM ]
May 12, 2022 at 4:07 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I can attest that NYniner85 was way, WAY off on Mahomes.

Yup. So where a lot of people. To be fair what I had issue with was legit. Talent ended up being the bigger then all those issues

I think Mahomes and Allen were great learning moments for a lot of people to take the talent
May 12, 2022 at 4:07 PM
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's fine and I'm happy to hear that.

as far as Mac goes vs the Bills he most certainly was a reason they lost. Which is fine he's a rookie, if you want to talk about the good stuff you gotta be able to have a conversation about the bad stuff too.

If you want to put a loss squarely on a rookie qb when the defense gave up 47 points, almost 500 yards of offense and didn't force a punt all game, you must really hate him. As critical as I may be with Trey. Id never put that kind of loss on him.

I said he was a reason not the only reason. Why couldn't he put points on the board regardless of what the defense was doing anyway?

I could careless about Jones once he wasn't the pick. Like I said I watch a lot of NE football this yr (forced more or less) and overall the praise some give him in here is over the top.
May 12, 2022 at 4:08 PM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I think Mahomes and Allen were great learning moments for a lot of people to take the talent

Changed the way I evaluate the position.
May 12, 2022 at 4:09 PM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
For every five Elway's there are thousands of Nick Mullens's.

Most overrated QB in NFL history.



jk
May 12, 2022 at 4:12 PM
You draft this guy.

Because you're trying to beat this guy.
May 12, 2022 at 4:13 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I think Mahomes and Allen were great learning moments for a lot of people to take the talent

Changed the way I evaluate the position.

If you're going to trade away two firsts and other draft capital to move up to three three months ahead of draft day you better TAKE THE TALENT!

This is why I KNEW the pick wasn't Max Jones without a doubt!
[ Edited by Pillbusta on May 12, 2022 at 4:14 PM ]
May 12, 2022 at 4:14 PM
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
You draft this guy.

Because you're trying to beat this guy.

Exactly.
May 12, 2022 at 4:14 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I think Mahomes and Allen were great learning moments for a lot of people to take the talent

Changed the way I evaluate the position.

Should have just listened to Waterbear.
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