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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.
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Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.

Which is why we're waiting till healthy. No trade offers is obvious at this point or the bum would already be gone. You really don't understand the off season.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.

Which is why we're waiting till healthy. No trade offers is obvious at this point or the bum would already be gone. You really don't understand the off season.

No... I just know, not think, that if you're going to lie Jimmy's trade value would be the actual thing to lie about not that hes possibly coming back. Lying that he's possibly coming back does not move the needle. Saying he has no value does.

"Jimmy has no trade value but give us a 2nd"

How does that make sense? How does that help?
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
"I'm selling my truck with a broken transmission for $40,000"

Possible buyer-"that's steep have you gotten any offers?"

"No, I'm thinking about keeping it so you better fork out that $40,000"

Possible buyer-"no thanks, you can have it"

when's the truck selling off-season again? The truck salary Cap is hard to get around. What are you going to do with the other 2 better trucks asking for more money? Thanks for more proof you will never get it.

Oh you mean the salary cap that we used for a PR?

What do we do with the other truck? We drive it... .. . Not say we're going to keep the old truck. Why even remotely think about keeping the old truck if you believed the other trucks were reliable. You're keeping the old truck for a reason.

Still comparing selling a truck and trading a QB... . Will never get it.

Still openly saying coaches are lying, a conspiracy by definition, to make whatever point you're trying to make.

You don't think GMs and coaches lie? You just start watching football?

He's making such a fool of himself. And lol at his truck selling analogy. That was hilarious 🤣
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.

Which is why we're waiting till healthy. No trade offers is obvious at this point or the bum would already be gone. You really don't understand the off season.

No... I just know, not think, that if you're going to lie Jimmy's trade value would be the actual thing to lie about not that hes possibly coming back. Lying that he's possibly coming back does not move the needle. Saying he has no value does.

"Jimmy has no trade value but give us a 2nd"

How does that make sense? How does that help?

Because he talking about Jimmy with one arm. Which is why we are waiting. Seems obvious.
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Didn't mean to turn this into a Jimmy thread. My points is stuff like this shows that Trey still may need time and that the confidence in him isn't 100%. Call these guys liars all you want but I don't see this as lying. It's not rocket science that QB is important, it's rocket science to think a 22 year old with minimal college experience might struggle and need time. It's common sense really. It's basic s**t really.

"He's too good a player. I think Jimmy will be playing for us or will be playing for someone else. He's too good of a player not to be."
-Lynch

"We have two really good quarterbacks on our roster, One guy has gotten to the final four and beyond two of the last three seasons. If he's our guy, that's OK. If Trey is our guy that we traded up for, that's OK.
-York

"The good thing is we don't have to decide it today. We're trying to see what the best thing is for the Niners, and having a good quarterback like Jimmy is not a bad thing"
-Shanny

All of those statements are open to interpretation. I have quotes also.

"That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe Trey can be the starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said. "

This statement here makes it very clear that they have confidence in Trey. Their is no wiggle room in this statement.

"You've got to make sure that you're not hindering his development," Shanahan said. "Trey's working his tail off. He knows how I feel about him. He knows what our expectations are for him. And I think he's got a lot of respect for Jimmy. But the situation is clear. We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things."

These quotes say that they were actively shopping Jimmy and were close to a trade but Jimmy ended up getting surgery which changed things. What things do you think Jimmy's surgery changed? Certainly not their confidence in Trey.

Im not debating that they are shopping Jimmy. The main plan was always to get something out of Jimmy that will help the team but they've never closed the door on keeping him. Again I've said it a lot, I want Trey to start. They are leaving the door open on Jimmy, they have since even after the SB loss in Shanny's press conference, because there was always a chance he comes back. It's now March and that chance is getting closer to actually happening.

Lynch, Shanny, and York have all said so. Not me... Them...

There's still plenty of time for a trade to happen but they are not lying by saying that bringing Jimmy back is a possibility. Lying doesn't help get a better pick as I've pointed out.

True, I understand what you are saying when it comes to leaving somethings on the table as possibilities. Yes. There is a possibilty that Jimmy could be back. As slim as that possility is, I will admit that it does exist. It is just very unlikely given the confidence Shanahan has publicly expressed that he has in Trey and that when the FO has stated that they were actively shopping Jimmy. You just don't do that if you aren't 100% on board with Trey being the guy. You just don't actively shop a QB who you think gives you the best chance to make a sb run.

Jimmy isn't taking a pay cut to be a bench warmer when he believes he is a starter in this league. This FO nor any FO is ever going to pay a guy 25.5 million to sit on the bench all season.

Now, take all these things I have just stated into consideration. Would it not be logical to believe that once Jimmy has cleared a medical that they do him a solid and cut him so that he can choose what is best for him and his career? How do we even know Jimmy even wants to be here anymore? Has that even been considered by anyone on these boards?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Didn't mean to turn this into a Jimmy thread. My points is stuff like this shows that Trey still may need time and that the confidence in him isn't 100%. Call these guys liars all you want but I don't see this as lying. It's not rocket science that QB is important, it's rocket science to think a 22 year old with minimal college experience might struggle and need time. It's common sense really. It's basic s**t really.

"He's too good a player. I think Jimmy will be playing for us or will be playing for someone else. He's too good of a player not to be."
-Lynch

"We have two really good quarterbacks on our roster, One guy has gotten to the final four and beyond two of the last three seasons. If he's our guy, that's OK. If Trey is our guy that we traded up for, that's OK.
-York

"The good thing is we don't have to decide it today. We're trying to see what the best thing is for the Niners, and having a good quarterback like Jimmy is not a bad thing"
-Shanny

All of those statements are open to interpretation. I have quotes also.

"That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe Trey can be the starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said. "

This statement here makes it very clear that they have confidence in Trey. Their is no wiggle room in this statement.

"You've got to make sure that you're not hindering his development," Shanahan said. "Trey's working his tail off. He knows how I feel about him. He knows what our expectations are for him. And I think he's got a lot of respect for Jimmy. But the situation is clear. We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things."

These quotes say that they were actively shopping Jimmy and were close to a trade but Jimmy ended up getting surgery which changed things. What things do you think Jimmy's surgery changed? Certainly not their confidence in Trey.

Im not debating that they are shopping Jimmy. The main plan was always to get something out of Jimmy that will help the team but they've never closed the door on keeping him. Again I've said it a lot, I want Trey to start. They are leaving the door open on Jimmy, they have since even after the SB loss in Shanny's press conference, because there was always a chance he comes back. It's now March and that chance is getting closer to actually happening.

Lynch, Shanny, and York have all said so. Not me... Them...

There's still plenty of time for a trade to happen but they are not lying by saying that bringing Jimmy back is a possibility. Lying doesn't help get a better pick as I've pointed out.

True, I understand what you are saying when it comes to leaving somethings on the table as possibilities. Yes. There is a possibilty that Jimmy could be back. As slim as that possility is, I will admit that it does exist. It is just very unlikely given the confidence Shanahan has publicly expressed that he has in Trey and that when the FO has stated that they were actively shopping Jimmy. You just don't do that if you aren't 100% on board with Trey being the guy. You just don't actively shop a QB who you think gives you the best chance to make a sb run.

Jimmy isn't taking a pay cut to be a bench warmer when he believes he is a starter in this league. This FO nor any FO is ever going to pay a guy 25.5 million to sit on the bench all season.

Now, take all these things I have just stated into consideration. Would it not be logical to believe that once Jimmy has cleared a medical that they do him a solid and cut him so that he can choose what is best for him and his career? How do we even know Jimmy even wants to be here anymore? Has that even been considered by anyone on these boards?

0% chance he is on the team come September. We need his cap space this year not next.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Didn't mean to turn this into a Jimmy thread. My points is stuff like this shows that Trey still may need time and that the confidence in him isn't 100%. Call these guys liars all you want but I don't see this as lying. It's not rocket science that QB is important, it's rocket science to think a 22 year old with minimal college experience might struggle and need time. It's common sense really. It's basic s**t really.

"He's too good a player. I think Jimmy will be playing for us or will be playing for someone else. He's too good of a player not to be."
-Lynch

"We have two really good quarterbacks on our roster, One guy has gotten to the final four and beyond two of the last three seasons. If he's our guy, that's OK. If Trey is our guy that we traded up for, that's OK.
-York

"The good thing is we don't have to decide it today. We're trying to see what the best thing is for the Niners, and having a good quarterback like Jimmy is not a bad thing"
-Shanny

All of those statements are open to interpretation. I have quotes also.

"That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe Trey can be the starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said. "

This statement here makes it very clear that they have confidence in Trey. Their is no wiggle room in this statement.

"You've got to make sure that you're not hindering his development," Shanahan said. "Trey's working his tail off. He knows how I feel about him. He knows what our expectations are for him. And I think he's got a lot of respect for Jimmy. But the situation is clear. We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things."

These quotes say that they were actively shopping Jimmy and were close to a trade but Jimmy ended up getting surgery which changed things. What things do you think Jimmy's surgery changed? Certainly not their confidence in Trey.

Im not debating that they are shopping Jimmy. The main plan was always to get something out of Jimmy that will help the team but they've never closed the door on keeping him. Again I've said it a lot, I want Trey to start. They are leaving the door open on Jimmy, they have since even after the SB loss in Shanny's press conference, because there was always a chance he comes back. It's now March and that chance is getting closer to actually happening.

Lynch, Shanny, and York have all said so. Not me... Them...

There's still plenty of time for a trade to happen but they are not lying by saying that bringing Jimmy back is a possibility. Lying doesn't help get a better pick as I've pointed out.

True, I understand what you are saying when it comes to leaving somethings on the table as possibilities. Yes. There is a possibilty that Jimmy could be back. As slim as that possility is, I will admit that it does exist. It is just very unlikely given the confidence Shanahan has publicly expressed that he has in Trey and that when the FO has stated that they were actively shopping Jimmy. You just don't do that if you aren't 100% on board with Trey being the guy. You just don't actively shop a QB who you think gives you the best chance to make a sb run.

Jimmy isn't taking a pay cut to be a bench warmer when he believes he is a starter in this league. This FO nor any FO is ever going to pay a guy 25.5 million to sit on the bench all season.

Now, take all these things I have just stated into consideration. Would it not be logical to believe that once Jimmy has cleared a medical that they do him a solid and cut him so that he can choose what is best for him and his career? How do we even know Jimmy even wants to be here anymore? Has that even been considered by anyone on these boards?

I think the confidence is high in Trey no doubt I just haven't heard anything overly confident about him taking the reigns at this juncture. As I've said he's not even 22 yet. We have a window right now and maybe it's not the best time to throw him out there. I think keeping Jimmy is a great insurance policy if, and I emphasize IF, we don't get a reasonable offer.

I understand the concept of his salary but if signing FA's was a priority we would'nt have spent what little we had on a couple special teams guys. Something like 5 mill on Ray Ray. It'd be nice to get at least Deebo signed but there's still plenty of time and options.

As far as releasing Jimmy mutually. I could see that but I think he has more value come training camp than signing some random guys cut. It Trey starts and he goes down our possible Super Bowl run is over with Sudfield. I do think this team has a good chance at a deep run.
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on Apr 3, 2022 at 7:19 AM ]
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.

I don't think that your taking all things into consideration.

"We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it.", Shanahan stated. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things.

Taking both Shanahan's and Lynch's statements into consideration. It sounds like there were negotiation talks going on that were close but no official offer was ever made and that the talks came to a hault when Jimmy hit them with a surprise surgery.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.

I don't think that your taking all things into consideration.

"We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it.", Shanahan stated. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things.

Taking both Shanahan's and Lynch's statements into consideration. It sounds like there were negotiation talks going on that were close but no official offer was ever made and that the talks came to a hault when Jimmy hit them with a surprise surgery.

Would be retarded to say anything differently than they have.
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Didn't mean to turn this into a Jimmy thread. My points is stuff like this shows that Trey still may need time and that the confidence in him isn't 100%. Call these guys liars all you want but I don't see this as lying. It's not rocket science that QB is important, it's rocket science to think a 22 year old with minimal college experience might struggle and need time. It's common sense really. It's basic s**t really.

"He's too good a player. I think Jimmy will be playing for us or will be playing for someone else. He's too good of a player not to be."
-Lynch

"We have two really good quarterbacks on our roster, One guy has gotten to the final four and beyond two of the last three seasons. If he's our guy, that's OK. If Trey is our guy that we traded up for, that's OK.
-York

"The good thing is we don't have to decide it today. We're trying to see what the best thing is for the Niners, and having a good quarterback like Jimmy is not a bad thing"
-Shanny

All of those statements are open to interpretation. I have quotes also.

"That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe Trey can be the starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said. "

This statement here makes it very clear that they have confidence in Trey. Their is no wiggle room in this statement.

"You've got to make sure that you're not hindering his development," Shanahan said. "Trey's working his tail off. He knows how I feel about him. He knows what our expectations are for him. And I think he's got a lot of respect for Jimmy. But the situation is clear. We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things."

These quotes say that they were actively shopping Jimmy and were close to a trade but Jimmy ended up getting surgery which changed things. What things do you think Jimmy's surgery changed? Certainly not their confidence in Trey.

Im not debating that they are shopping Jimmy. The main plan was always to get something out of Jimmy that will help the team but they've never closed the door on keeping him. Again I've said it a lot, I want Trey to start. They are leaving the door open on Jimmy, they have since even after the SB loss in Shanny's press conference, because there was always a chance he comes back. It's now March and that chance is getting closer to actually happening.

Lynch, Shanny, and York have all said so. Not me... Them...

There's still plenty of time for a trade to happen but they are not lying by saying that bringing Jimmy back is a possibility. Lying doesn't help get a better pick as I've pointed out.

True, I understand what you are saying when it comes to leaving somethings on the table as possibilities. Yes. There is a possibilty that Jimmy could be back. As slim as that possility is, I will admit that it does exist. It is just very unlikely given the confidence Shanahan has publicly expressed that he has in Trey and that when the FO has stated that they were actively shopping Jimmy. You just don't do that if you aren't 100% on board with Trey being the guy. You just don't actively shop a QB who you think gives you the best chance to make a sb run.

Jimmy isn't taking a pay cut to be a bench warmer when he believes he is a starter in this league. This FO nor any FO is ever going to pay a guy 25.5 million to sit on the bench all season.

Now, take all these things I have just stated into consideration. Would it not be logical to believe that once Jimmy has cleared a medical that they do him a solid and cut him so that he can choose what is best for him and his career? How do we even know Jimmy even wants to be here anymore? Has that even been considered by anyone on these boards?

I think the confidence is high in Trey no doubt I just haven't heard anything overly confident about him taking the reigns at this juncture. As I've said he's not even 22 yet. We have a window right now and maybe it's not the best time to throw him out there. I think keeping Jimmy is a great insurance policy if, and I emphasize IF, we don't get a reasonable offer.

I understand the concept of his salary but if signing FA's was a priority we would'nt have spent what little we had on a couple special teams guys. Something like 5 mill on Ray Ray. It'd be nice to get at least Deebo signed but there's still plenty of time and options.

As far as releasing Jimmy mutually. I could see that but I think he has more value come training camp than signing some random guys cut. It Trey starts and he goes down our possible Super Bowl run is over with Sudfield. I do think this team has a good chance at a deep run.

I repeat. No FO is paying a bench warmer 25 Million. Jimmy isn't taking a pay cut. We don't even know if Jimmy even wants to be here. The surgery was a good move by Jimmy as he won't be part of a transaction that was in the best interest of the team rather than in the best interest of Jimmy.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.

I don't think that your taking all things into consideration.

"We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it.", Shanahan stated. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things.

Taking both Shanahan's and Lynch's statements into consideration. It sounds like there were negotiation talks going on that were close but no official offer was ever made and that the talks came to a hault when Jimmy hit them with a surprise surgery.

Would be retarded to say anything differently than they have.

How does saying they got no offers help? At all? Again if you're going to lie, this would be the thing to lie about.
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.

I don't think that your taking all things into consideration.

"We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it.", Shanahan stated. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things.

Taking both Shanahan's and Lynch's statements into consideration. It sounds like there were negotiation talks going on that were close but no official offer was ever made and that the talks came to a hault when Jimmy hit them with a surprise surgery.

Would be retarded to say anything differently than they have.

How does saying they got no offers help? At all? Again if you're going to lie, this would be the thing to lie about.

Speaking of one armed Jimmy is much different than 2 armed as they are ok with waiting for 2 armed. My guess it still doesn't matter as we don't get a trade. And he ends up cut. 0 % chance he is here in Sept.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
He thinks we would come out and say Jimmy has no value to us while trying to trade him. Because coaches and GM don't lie. 🤣

Lynch said it... Not me.


You literally, 100%, no questions asked just proved me right. Here's Lynch saying he has no value........ Why would he say this, yet lie about keeping Jimmy? If you're going to lie you don't tell teams you have no offers. That's the last thing you do lol. Lying about keeping Jimmy has no benefit. Especially when you already admit his value is nothing.

I don't think that your taking all things into consideration.

"We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it.", Shanahan stated. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things.

Taking both Shanahan's and Lynch's statements into consideration. It sounds like there were negotiation talks going on that were close but no official offer was ever made and that the talks came to a hault when Jimmy hit them with a surprise surgery.

Would be retarded to say anything differently than they have.

How does saying they got no offers help? At all? Again if you're going to lie, this would be the thing to lie about.

Speaking of one armed Jimmy is much different than 2 armed as they are ok with waiting for 2 armed. My guess it still doesn't matter as we don't get a trade. And he ends up cut. 0 % chance he is here in Sept.

Gotcha, you very well could be right but don't be too surprised if he's back.

Time for me to get ready for a beautiful Sunday! Til next time!
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on Apr 3, 2022 at 7:38 AM ]
After giving it some thought. There is a greater possibilty that Jimmy asks to be cut than there is that he is on the roster come September. I never considered it until this morning. But lets take Jimmy's angle for a second. This team went out and got my replacement. I said my fairwells. The team no longer has my best interests in mind. Lets wait until the perfect time to throw a wrench into their plans. I want to make the choice in where I go to continue my career.

This is all speculation, of course, but its not far fetched. Jimmy has every right to be disgruntled and want to make his own career decisions.
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