Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Didn't mean to turn this into a Jimmy thread. My points is stuff like this shows that Trey still may need time and that the confidence in him isn't 100%. Call these guys liars all you want but I don't see this as lying. It's not rocket science that QB is important, it's rocket science to think a 22 year old with minimal college experience might struggle and need time. It's common sense really. It's basic s**t really.
"He's too good a player. I think Jimmy will be playing for us or will be playing for someone else. He's too good of a player not to be."
-Lynch
"We have two really good quarterbacks on our roster, One guy has gotten to the final four and beyond two of the last three seasons. If he's our guy, that's OK. If Trey is our guy that we traded up for, that's OK.
-York
"The good thing is we don't have to decide it today. We're trying to see what the best thing is for the Niners, and having a good quarterback like Jimmy is not a bad thing"
-Shanny
All of those statements are open to interpretation. I have quotes also.
"That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe Trey can be the starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said. "
This statement here makes it very clear that they have confidence in Trey. Their is no wiggle room in this statement.
"You've got to make sure that you're not hindering his development," Shanahan said. "Trey's working his tail off. He knows how I feel about him. He knows what our expectations are for him. And I think he's got a lot of respect for Jimmy. But the situation is clear. We were trying to make a move to add some draft pick, and we were pretty close to it. And then Jimmy ended up getting the surgery, which changes things."
These quotes say that they were actively shopping Jimmy and were close to a trade but Jimmy ended up getting surgery which changed things. What things do you think Jimmy's surgery changed? Certainly not their confidence in Trey.
Im not debating that they are shopping Jimmy. The main plan was always to get something out of Jimmy that will help the team but they've never closed the door on keeping him. Again I've said it a lot, I want Trey to start. They are leaving the door open on Jimmy, they have since even after the SB loss in Shanny's press conference, because there was always a chance he comes back. It's now March and that chance is getting closer to actually happening.
Lynch, Shanny, and York have all said so. Not me... Them...
There's still plenty of time for a trade to happen but they are not lying by saying that bringing Jimmy back is a possibility. Lying doesn't help get a better pick as I've pointed out.
True, I understand what you are saying when it comes to leaving somethings on the table as possibilities. Yes. There is a possibilty that Jimmy could be back. As slim as that possility is, I will admit that it does exist. It is just very unlikely given the confidence Shanahan has publicly expressed that he has in Trey and that when the FO has stated that they were actively shopping Jimmy. You just don't do that if you aren't 100% on board with Trey being the guy. You just don't actively shop a QB who you think gives you the best chance to make a sb run.
Jimmy isn't taking a pay cut to be a bench warmer when he believes he is a starter in this league. This FO nor any FO is ever going to pay a guy 25.5 million to sit on the bench all season.
Now, take all these things I have just stated into consideration. Would it not be logical to believe that once Jimmy has cleared a medical that they do him a solid and cut him so that he can choose what is best for him and his career? How do we even know Jimmy even wants to be here anymore? Has that even been considered by anyone on these boards?
I think the confidence is high in Trey no doubt I just haven't heard anything overly confident about him taking the reigns at this juncture. As I've said he's not even 22 yet. We have a window right now and maybe it's not the best time to throw him out there. I think keeping Jimmy is a great insurance policy if, and I emphasize IF, we don't get a reasonable offer.
I understand the concept of his salary but if signing FA's was a priority we would'nt have spent what little we had on a couple special teams guys. Something like 5 mill on Ray Ray. It'd be nice to get at least Deebo signed but there's still plenty of time and options.
As far as releasing Jimmy mutually. I could see that but I think he has more value come training camp than signing some random guys cut. It Trey starts and he goes down our possible Super Bowl run is over with Sudfield. I do think this team has a good chance at a deep run.
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on Apr 3, 2022 at 7:19 AM ]