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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Youngone:
We need more 49ers QB drama.....*ughhh*....."how about Shanahan was totally in love with Andy Dalton and wanted to have a QB room full of QBs with zero experience in the playbook?"

brilliant, publish that!

Just cuz someone publishes it doesn't mean it's legit. You'd think people would realize that considering we got an onslaught of Mac Jones is definitely the pick for a month straight.

Check this thread for whether Mac Jones was actually the pick.

This.

EDIT - Nope, wait, I got got as well. Missed the sarchasm.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on May 7, 2021 at 1:41 PM ]
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Yeah, I've seen that one, but there are 20 others that say how great his arm is.

DJ said Lance has the strongest arm in the draft class.

he's throwing ropes and it's not like 3/4 hitches to get the ball there either



what is that 65 yards on a rope?


a couple misses but the arm talent is legit...I'd put it in the Justin Herbert category as far as arm talent goes and he's like two yrs younger.

Arm strength looks more than legit on these clips

Oh his arm strength is legit. Top 10 in the league when he steps on the field.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by genus49:
Define bonehead pick?


Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Jimmy doesn't need to be perfect. Jimmy needs to be awful with losing games on top of it in order to see lance

Don't know about that one. If Jimmy has consecutive games with those boneheaded picks but our defense and run game keeps us in it and we get the W, I think he gets replaced.

Define bonehead pick?
exactly. over half the picks came off ball off hands

Jimmy needs to lose multiple games for him to get pulled

I won't get deep into it cause don't want to hijack this thread with more Jimmy crap, but let's not pretend that Jimmy's boneheaded picks wasn't a huge topic in his thread. You curious of definition, go to his thread and look for it cause it's all there. You think it's mainly tipped balls off hands, there's many picks to see all there on YouTube. But I will bite and give each of you one example for both:

Bonehead pick: Playoff game against the Vikings where he clearly had a predetermined pass, stared down his target and threw it directly to the LB that was right there just reading his eyes. Could've added a few more for essentially doing the same thing but fortunately the Vikings dropped it. We proceeded to take the ball out of his hands and ran the rest of the game.

Pass tipped that got intercepted: Pittsburgh game where it was a simple swing pass to Breida. He placed the ball in the absolute worst spot possible, low at the shins and behind him. How people try to blame that one on Breida cause he "touched" it is downright laughable.
You can show every QB throwing picks like that.

Nothing is guaranteed to be perfect. Balls will be high, ball will be low. But you needs to catch it if you get both hands on the ball

You're being disingenuous if you're pretending like Jimmy is particularly bad at that. Analysts don't say Aaron Rodgers is good for throwing the defense three catchable balls per game, do they?

EDIT! SORRY MODS BY THE TIME I SAW YOUR MESSAGE I HAD ALREADY POSTED THIS.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on May 7, 2021 at 1:23 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Yeah, I've seen that one, but there are 20 others that say how great his arm is.

DJ said Lance has the strongest arm in the draft class.

he's throwing ropes and it's not like 3/4 hitches to get the ball there either



what is that 65 yards on a rope?


a couple misses but the arm talent is legit...I'd put it in the Justin Herbert category as far as arm talent goes and he's like two yrs younger.

Arm strength looks more than legit on these clips

Oh his arm strength is legit. Top 10 in the league when he steps on the field.

The 1st pass in the 2nd clip was really impressive. Looked he just flicked his wrist and the ball went 50 plus yards
Originally posted by susweel:
Lance wasn't my first choice but I'm cautiously optimistic that we got him and hope he balls out. However his potential to be a bust is high because limited college experience and low level competition.

Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
This was during the draft process, his mechanics are soooo much better



That's not even a difficult throw that requires a lot of arm strength.

His draft profile says his arm is very average.

OR you could try watching the tape.

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Are you f**king kidding me? REally? You base your opinion on our first round pick on a f**king DRAFT PROFILE? Here I thought I was lazy for waiting until a month before the draft to watch literally every play of his career... smmfh. He wasn't even our QB yet... and we watched that much of him. This guy here learned about him from a draft profile...

Can we get a facepalm emoji?

EDIT - Here took me literally 45 seconds to find (search highlights, press forward a few times with the keyboard):



He takes a guy to his chest and still throws it 50 yards on a dime.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on May 7, 2021 at 1:32 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't see anything in that clip that would be a display of his arm strength.

For me it's the mechanics in that video it's damn near perfect. His arm strength is top 10 in the league IMO. I think he turns 21 in a couple days lol. He's still growing and having proper mechanics is only gonna make his arm talent even better, which is scary

If you watch a lot of his longer throws it appears that he is dropping them on the wr instead of always putting it out in front. I think it has more to do with the wrs not having separation and he is giving them a chance to go get it. The times he has a wr with separation he has no problem leading them.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Yeah, I've seen that one, but there are 20 others that say how great his arm is.

DJ said Lance has the strongest arm in the draft class.

he's throwing ropes and it's not like 3/4 hitches to get the ball there either



what is that 65 yards on a rope?


a couple misses but the arm talent is legit...I'd put it in the Justin Herbert category as far as arm talent goes and he's like two yrs younger.

Arm strength looks more than legit on these clips

Oh his arm strength is legit. Top 10 in the league when he steps on the field.

The 1st pass in the 2nd clip was really impressive. Looked he just flicked his wrist and the ball went 50 plus yards

Yeah anyone who says he has no arm strength is utterly embarrassing themselves.

Even his pedestrian deep throws are good. This one took a minute to find, he's taking a guy to the chest. Dude has arm strength.



Accuracy is a bit inconsistent, but we know of two guys who got better at throwing the last couple years (Jackson an Allen). As far as I know, NO ONE got significantly better at arm strength or mobility.
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Arm looks good on those highlights. NFL needs to stop spreading misinformation then.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Yeah, I've seen that one, but there are 20 others that say how great his arm is.

DJ said Lance has the strongest arm in the draft class.

he's throwing ropes and it's not like 3/4 hitches to get the ball there either



what is that 65 yards on a rope?


a couple misses but the arm talent is legit...I'd put it in the Justin Herbert category as far as arm talent goes and he's like two yrs younger.

Arm strength looks more than legit on these clips

Oh his arm strength is legit. Top 10 in the league when he steps on the field.

The 1st pass in the 2nd clip was really impressive. Looked he just flicked his wrist and the ball went 50 plus yards

Here's another one

Are there actually people out there trying to question his arm strength? Really?

The only QB in this class with a stronger arm is Zach Wilson and it's pretty close.
Originally posted by susweel:
Arm looks good on those highlights. NFL needs to stop spreading misinformation then.

Yep. That 3 hour YouTube video of all his plays is full of impressive plays. There were few tight window throws, but he did make some.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by genus49:
Define bonehead pick?


Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Jimmy doesn't need to be perfect. Jimmy needs to be awful with losing games on top of it in order to see lance

Don't know about that one. If Jimmy has consecutive games with those boneheaded picks but our defense and run game keeps us in it and we get the W, I think he gets replaced.

Define bonehead pick?
exactly. over half the picks came off ball off hands

Jimmy needs to lose multiple games for him to get pulled

I won't get deep into it cause don't want to hijack this thread with more Jimmy crap, but let's not pretend that Jimmy's boneheaded picks wasn't a huge topic in his thread. You curious of definition, go to his thread and look for it cause it's all there. You think it's mainly tipped balls off hands, there's many picks to see all there on YouTube. But I will bite and give each of you one example for both:

Bonehead pick: Playoff game against the Vikings where he clearly had a predetermined pass, stared down his target and threw it directly to the LB that was right there just reading his eyes. Could've added a few more for essentially doing the same thing but fortunately the Vikings dropped it. We proceeded to take the ball out of his hands and ran the rest of the game.

Pass tipped that got intercepted: Pittsburgh game where it was a simple swing pass to Breida. He placed the ball in the absolute worst spot possible, low at the shins and behind him. How people try to blame that one on Breida cause he "touched" it is downright laughable.
You can show every QB throwing picks like that.

Nothing is guaranteed to be perfect. Balls will be high, ball will be low. But you needs to catch it if you get both hands on the ball

You're being disingenuous if you're pretending like Jimmy is particularly bad at that. Analysts don't say Aaron Rodgers is good for throwing the defense three catchable balls per game, do they?

EDIT! SORRY MODS BY THE TIME I SAW YOUR MESSAGE I HAD ALREADY POSTED THIS.
Every QB gets pass broken up and drop catchable INTs

Either way, Our QBs don't need to be perfect to keep their job which was my original point
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Here's another one


cant wait to see Lance to Aiyuk in this situation
Originally posted by susweel:
Arm looks good on those highlights. NFL needs to stop spreading misinformation then.

Lance's work buddy DJ said he's got the strong arm in the draft class.

his arm talent/strength is the further thing from an issue
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