Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme. But no DB is going to respect us as a regular deep threat. LOL

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme. But no DB is going to respect us as a regular deep threat. LOL

That's probably the point. If they don't respect it, there is an opportunity. How frustrating must it be for Kyle to use a few plays AND a DBs lack of respect to set up a play where no defender is even close, only to have Jimmy flutter up a ball so underthrown that it's uncatchable?

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
No offense to Davis Mills but Trey/49ers won't lose to the Houston try hards, they already won their bowl game against choking Chargers

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme. But no DB is going to respect us as a regular deep threat. LOL

That's probably the point. If they don't respect it, there is an opportunity. How frustrating must it be for Kyle to use a few plays AND a DBs lack of respect to set up a play where no defender is even close, only to have Jimmy flutter up a ball so underthrown that it's uncatchable?

Oh yeah. Jimmy. That's a different topic altogether but it's frustrating enough as a fan to see a wide open player missed!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
No offense to Davis Mills but Trey/49ers won't lose to the Houston try hards, they already won their bowl game against choking Chargers

One podcast said of all the rookie QB's, he's played the best but just hasn't played from the start. Not sure if true.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
No offense to Davis Mills but Trey/49ers won't lose to the Houston try hards, they already won their bowl game against choking Chargers

One podcast said of all the rookie QB's, he's played the best but just hasn't played from the start. Not sure if true.

is that where you have been spending your time since going MIA in the mac jones thread?

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme. But no DB is going to respect us as a regular deep threat. LOL

That's probably the point. If they don't respect it, there is an opportunity. How frustrating must it be for Kyle to use a few plays AND a DBs lack of respect to set up a play where no defender is even close, only to have Jimmy flutter up a ball so underthrown that it's uncatchable?

Oh yeah. Jimmy. That's a different topic altogether but it's frustrating enough as a fan to see a wide open player missed!

Going to eventually happen to Trey too.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme. But no DB is going to respect us as a regular deep threat. LOL

That's probably the point. If they don't respect it, there is an opportunity. How frustrating must it be for Kyle to use a few plays AND a DBs lack of respect to set up a play where no defender is even close, only to have Jimmy flutter up a ball so underthrown that it's uncatchable?

Oh yeah. Jimmy. That's a different topic altogether but it's frustrating enough as a fan to see a wide open player missed!

Going to eventually happen to Trey too.

Originally posted by TyCore:
I just want to see mechanics that are associated with a high-end conventional starting QB, namely what I mentioned. Hanging in there and throwing the ball away if need be (I'm desperate to see our QB throw the ball away, lol)...then make plays with the legs as they are given to him and not forcing it.

I'm talking specifically about frantic scrambling, which I've had enough of in this lifetime.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
No offense to Davis Mills but Trey/49ers won't lose to the Houston try hards, they already won their bowl game against choking Chargers

One podcast said of all the rookie QB's, he's played the best but just hasn't played from the start. Not sure if true.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme. But no DB is going to respect us as a regular deep threat. LOL

That's probably the point. If they don't respect it, there is an opportunity. How frustrating must it be for Kyle to use a few plays AND a DBs lack of respect to set up a play where no defender is even close, only to have Jimmy flutter up a ball so underthrown that it's uncatchable?

Oh yeah. Jimmy. That's a different topic altogether but it's frustrating enough as a fan to see a wide open player missed!

Going to eventually happen to Trey too.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TyCore:
I just want to see mechanics that are associated with a high-end conventional starting QB, namely what I mentioned. Hanging in there and throwing the ball away if need be (I'm desperate to see our QB throw the ball away, lol)...then make plays with the legs as they are given to him and not forcing it.

I'm talking specifically about frantic scrambling, which I've had enough of in this lifetime.

Mechanics will be off and on until he gets confident in his reads…he can't get confident in his reads until he sees coverages, which can only happen with more live in game reps.

we're not gonna see full field progressions from him. We want to win the game too….give him easy reads, roll outs, bootlegs, run the snot out of the ball and let the kid scramble. Go look at Allen and Watson their rookie yrs.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TyCore:
I just want to see mechanics that are associated with a high-end conventional starting QB, namely what I mentioned. Hanging in there and throwing the ball away if need be (I'm desperate to see our QB throw the ball away, lol)...then make plays with the legs as they are given to him and not forcing it.

I'm talking specifically about frantic scrambling, which I've had enough of in this lifetime.

Mechanics will be off and on until he gets confident in his reads…he can't get confident in his reads until he sees coverages, which can only happen with more live in game reps.

we're not gonna see full field progressions from him. We want to win the game too….give him easy reads, roll outs, bootlegs, run the snot out of the ball and let the kid scramble. Go look at Allen and Watson their rookie yrs.

Why can't they just call a game like kap had against the bears for his first start. Seems that's what youre describing and it worked for kap.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme. But no DB is going to respect us as a regular deep threat. LOL

That's probably the point. If they don't respect it, there is an opportunity. How frustrating must it be for Kyle to use a few plays AND a DBs lack of respect to set up a play where no defender is even close, only to have Jimmy flutter up a ball so underthrown that it's uncatchable?

Oh yeah. Jimmy. That's a different topic altogether but it's frustrating enough as a fan to see a wide open player missed!

Going to eventually happen to Trey too.