Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Good or bad, can't wait til Sunday

Can't wait, either.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Man, we miss that speed of Goodwin. They had great chemistry from the start too.

I guess "deep threat" can be viewed through different lenses. Through scheme where the speed or his lack of prowless to get deep doesn't matter and "respect" deep threat.

I'm talking about the respect players...the ones where defenders constantly have to respect the theat of a deep shot because of the speed or prowess to get deep and make plays consistently.

I think Kyle has been trying to replace Goodwin since he left with a slew of speed guys like Benjamin over the years but he hasn't found one yet...one that defenders are giving automatic 15 yard cushions out of respect for the deep threat. I think that element has been missing from Kyle's scheme which used to help guys like Kittle underneath a ton.

Does that make sense?

A speed HR threat is usually a decoy like how Goodwin was used to open underneath routes.

Benjamin and Sherfield are our current "speed" guys but BA has been running the decoy/clearing routes successfully with Jimmy G.

Kittle and Deebo and BA all been feasting on in brraking routes these last few games

It stops working when your QB cant or wont throw deep when defense squeezes the middle and leave sidelines and deep zones open

The trey v JG hypothetical gets a field test Sunday

Trey has already shown he can hit the cover 2 window in the sidelines

https://youtu.be/lCeRiCelRIA

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Good or bad, can't wait til Sunday

Can't wait, either.

Its time for a Super Bowl run. I can feel it.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

We've seen guys beat again and again and again w/Jimmy and were missed. Not sure why this is still even a subject.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Man, we miss that speed of Goodwin. They had great chemistry from the start too.

I guess "deep threat" can be viewed through different lenses. Through scheme where the speed or his lack of prowless to get deep doesn't matter and "respect" deep threat.

I'm talking about the respect players...the ones where defenders constantly have to respect the theat of a deep shot because of the speed or prowess to get deep and make plays consistently.

I think Kyle has been trying to replace Goodwin since he left with a slew of speed guys like Benjamin over the years but he hasn't found one yet...one that defenders are giving automatic 15 yard cushions out of respect for the deep threat. I think that element has been missing from Kyle's scheme which used to help guys like Kittle underneath a ton.

Does that make sense?

A speed HR threat is usually a decoy like how Goodwin was used to open underneath routes.

Benjamin and Sherfield are our current "speed" guys but BA has been running the decoy/clearing routes successfully with Jimmy G.

Kittle and Deebo and BA all been feasting on in brraking routes these last few games

It stops working when your QB cant or wont throw deep when defense squeezes the middle and leave sidelines and deep zones open

The trey v JG hypothetical gets a field test Sunday

Trey has already shown he can hit the cover 2 window in the sidelines

https://youtu.be/lCeRiCelRIA

Definitely. Can't wait!

if Trey starts and has a bad few games half the zoners will turn on him even though he is still to raw to really judge.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Good or bad, can't wait til Sunday

Can't wait, either.

Its time for a Super Bowl run. I can feel it.

Yup one win at a time. Six wins is all it takes to win #6. Lord give us thy 6 game win streak

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme. But no DB is going to respect us as a regular deep threat. LOL

Originally posted by JMC52:
if Trey starts and has a bad few games half the zoners will turn on him even though he is still to raw to really judge.

No excuses. We traded the future for him. The future is now. Superbowl or bust.

Originally posted by JMC52:
if Trey starts and has a bad few games half the zoners will turn on him even though he is still to raw to really judge.

And its going to be the same posters who have been loudly proclaiming that "Trey isnt ready" all season long. Just watch.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we have the players that can get deep due to play calling.. you don't need T Hill... to be considered a deep threat

Great. I keep hearing that. So now let's see if that's true. It certainly wasn't when Jimmy got killed.

It's not just about speed. Juice isn't fast, but still found himself with no defenders in the same zip code. I've seen similar plays with Kittle. Yes speed helps a ton, but isn't the end all be all for taking shots deep. Kyle can scheme the s**t out of that, just need a QB that can deliver.

You're talking scheme vs. individual skill sets.

You and I can get open deep in a perfectly timed Kyle scheme.

You have to design a team to fit a scheme. But then again you have to design a scheme to fit the team. Also everyone please remember to pick up your trash. Think big in small ways.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JMC52:
if Trey starts and has a bad few games half the zoners will turn on him even though he is still to raw to really judge.

No excuses. We traded the future for him. The future is now. Superbowl or bust.

Agreed, but we all knew Trey had the most upside of the top QBS but was the rawest by a big margin

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Good or bad, can't wait til Sunday

Can't wait, either.

Its time for a Super Bowl run. I can feel it.

Yup one win at a time. Six wins is all it takes to win #6. Lord give us thy 6 game win streak

Let's get it!

Originally posted by JMC52:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JMC52:
if Trey starts and has a bad few games half the zoners will turn on him even though he is still to raw to really judge.

No excuses. We traded the future for him. The future is now. Superbowl or bust.

Agreed, but we all knew Trey had the most upside of the top QBS but was the rawest by a big margin

Haha. I was joking. But eventually, and soon, this will be the expectation.