Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Shanahan will be foolish to put Jimmy back in after the bye. Perfect time to give Lance all the snaps during bye week and get him as ready as he can be for 2nd half. That'll be the best thing to do.

Having said that - Trey can have a nice game and stop Shanahan from making the same mistake he did in summer.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Being too dependent on an Injury prone QB Is what could cost us when It's all Said and done.

Hoping Lance shows us some potential tomorrow would be nice too.

Absolutely…people give me s**t for not calling out Kyle but he gets blame for 2 things.

1. thinking the answer was Kirk and not even sniffing Mahomes/Watson with the 2nd overall pick.

2. Paying Jimmy after 5 games, then sticking with his okay/avg play and depending on him to play consistent football/stay on the field. It's burned this team for multiple seasons and no one should objectively think Jimmy should have eaten up $110M worth of cap space over the course of 4 yrs…if that's any other player people would be having a fit.

I blame Kyle and the FO for doing all that.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Foles had to restructure his contract (he got way more in GTD money) when traded. He wasn't brought in to be the 3rd string at first. Dalton's cap hit is $5M, fields $3.5M. So what is that for 3 QB. $15M this yr lol? Doesn't even touch Jimmy's cap hit. Bears spread out their QB cash. SF didn't.

Again no legit QB was gonna come in and be a 3rd string QB for like $1M.

2m. Doesnt have to be all pro

Who's a legit QB that was a FA that would be a 3rd string QB for $2M?

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Foles had to restructure his contract (he got way more in GTD money) when traded. He wasn't brought in to be the 3rd string at first. Dalton's cap hit is $5M, fields $3.5M. So what is that for 3 QB. $15M this yr lol? Doesn't even touch Jimmy's cap hit. Bears spread out their QB cash. SF didn't.

Again no legit QB was gonna come in and be a 3rd string QB for like $1M.

2m. Doesnt have to be all pro

Lol we have sudfeld....

Whats funny is, if we went with brodies idea and splurged on a 3rd string QB, hed probably be the same one jumping on lynch for not using that money on another position of need.

Imagine playing $2M for a 3rd string QB instead of taking our already limited cash and investing it in the secondary/edge or any position that will actually need players to play legit snaps.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Lol we have sudfeld....

Whats funny is, if we went with brodies idea and splurged on a 3rd string QB, hed probably be the same one jumping on lynch for not using that money on another position of need.

Bingo

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Being too dependent on an Injury prone QB Is what could cost us when It's all Said and done.

Hoping Lance shows us some potential tomorrow would be nice too.

Absolutely…people give me s**t for not calling out Kyle but he gets blame for 2 things.

1. thinking the answer was Kirk and not even sniffing Mahomes/Watson with the 2nd overall pick.

2. Paying Jimmy after 5 games, then sticking with his okay/avg play and depending on him to play consistent football/stay on the field. It's burned this team for multiple seasons and no one should objectively think Jimmy should have eaten up $110M worth of cap space over the course of 4 yrs…if that's any other player people would be having a fit.

I blame Kyle and the FO for doing all that.

Agreed.

Those are the type of mistakes that will come back to haunt the franchise at some point down the road, and here we are again In the same situation we we're In last season.

Here's to hoping the "Lance" pick makes up for the missed opportunities on drafting other "Qbs"

Go Trey ! Hope he has solid game on Sunday. Good luck!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Lol we have sudfeld....

Whats funny is, if we went with brodies idea and splurged on a 3rd string QB, hed probably be the same one jumping on lynch for not using that money on another position of need.

Bingo

Not a splurge when you draft 21 year old with 300 snaps in 1-aa ball 1 year ago and <50% in preseason 4 picks 1 sack every 7 drop backs. Facts.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
So you want to pay $27 mil for one QB, trade up for a rookie AND pay for a "real QB3", which team in history has done that?

A team with serious management dysfunction.

An honestly what "legit" QB is gonna play for peanuts and be the 3rd string QB? No one that's who

Being too dependent on an Injury prone QB Is what could cost us when It's all Said and done.

Hoping Lance shows us some potential tomorrow would be nice too.

That has already cost us two of the last three seasons.

The offensive line cost us last season. Nobody making a living in the pocket with compton mcglinchy brunskill doing pass pro.

Damn shame Trey has to go out there without Kittle. Finally have a QB again that can push the ball downfield more often, and Kittle ain't out there to be one of the main weapons.

I wonder if we'll see more spread offense this weekened. Or just not change much and have Ross running Kittle's routes.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Imagine playing $2M for a 3rd string QB instead of taking our already limited cash and investing it in the secondary/edge or any position that will actually need players to play legit snaps.

wanted to draft azeez. And its not a 3rd string -- actually a 2nd string to cover for the 1st string if hurt. trey would still have his situational opportunities.

Originally posted by Psinex:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
When you expend so much draft capital on a QB he must see the field ASAP. He will make mistakes as all rookie QB's do. If he fouls up Lynch and Shanahan will experience the hot seat as losses mount.

Rushing him kills the chance to fix bad mechanics. I know why we are starting him, I just wish we didn't have to.

This was my contention all along. Keep Trey off the field as long as possible, knowing full well, JG and his injury hx. I had hoped it would be late , late in the season, and Trey would be further along. Unfortunately, here it is week 5 and he's starting. This is ill advised, IMO, but OTOH, not much choice in the matter.

I just don't want him to end up like Fields in CHI, getting a few measly yards in his first couple games and sacked, hit, beaten up every single game. Trevor and Zack Wilson…2 weeks ago, they each had 4 and 5 sacks and 4 and 5 INTs, or thereabouts. That certainly can't be helping their confidence and if one or two, even all 3 first 3 picks ends up ruined, it will be a shame. Good QBs make the league more fun to watch. But having all 3 of those kids starting and getting krapt beaten out of them, is not conducive to developing a good qB.

And that pretty well sums up my hopes for Lance. Good news is he has a whole lot better OL than all 3 of those other bottom feeder teams so maybe Trey can make it as a decent QB, even tho nowhere near ready. I sure hope so. I just don't want to see him get pounded and go backwards. I really hoped he could watch the entire yr…but here we are 5 games in and he's starting.

Kyle has mentioned he doesn't want to see firehouse football, but starting against Chandler and JJ? Just hope he avoids injury and slides with no headfirst antics. Right now i just want him to survive uninjured (think about the ramifications of that), and hope he doesn't reinforce his bad habits..both throwing mechanics and footwork.

It is depressing when that is the most important thing i am hoping for. Not even thinking about W/L. Just about our QB.

on the positive side, AZ has little or no tape on Trey, so there is that. Hopefully the OL gives him their super best and we see his upside. That would make for a great weekend. So, fingers crossed, hopes high and don't get injured, Trey…actually in reverse order..

The problem I see is that yes, we have a better offensive line than those teams but rookies and undisciplined QB's (see Kaepernick) leave their protection scheme and how it was designed to be blocked. That is probably the single most concerning thing that I saw in the second half of last weeks' game.

Trey kept moving around the pocket, weaving in and out between his blockers just a step or two away. His throwing motion is quite long and loopy so defenders stripping the ball before he throws it seems like a high-risk possibility. Kyle should scheme Trey to roll out more and move the pocket laterally so that AZ can't just tee off on a stationary QB.

Trey has to be much more accurate with his passes. If he keeps throwing high, he'll get picked off 3 or 4 times. Balls will bounce off fingertips, safeties will be right in position to make the play. Hope this week of practice has helped him work out some of the kinks.

Nice point about keeping the ball down and also, jitterbugging around in the pocket. I wish kyle would teach trey to throw a ball with nose down like Brady can do. Actually most anyone CAN do it but you have to practice it. Those babies don't go high as they are thrown like a rope and don't deflect upwards either. That's not Trey tho. Again. My #1 worry is injury (because then we REALLY would be screwed), and secondly is putting more muscle memory into faulty throwing mechanics and poor footwork (See Thl's description earlier on). Letting Trey learn good mechanics and footwork first is just going to go by the bye.

this is not ideal but it's the hand we were dealt. Sux.

Two obvious things Trey needs to do (Don't know why Kyle lets that s**t happen)

Trey, tuck your f**king shirt in so defenders don't have anything extra to grab.

Trey, protect the ball when you're running, even if you think no one is around you.... tuck it in.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Two obvious things Trey needs to do (Don't know why Kyle lets that s**t happen)

Trey, tuck your f**king shirt in so defenders don't have anything extra to grab.

Trey, protect the ball when you're running, even if you think no one is around you.... tuck it in.

Everyone runs around with their shirts untucked - pisses me off.