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Feb 17, 2021 at 5:54 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
I'll give you Mahomes because there were a number of people who loved him(cough*me ), but A LOT of people on here hated Watson. A lot of people on here thought he was overrated and many couldn't get past 49 mph at the combine.

"noodle arm" was used frequently in the Watson thread. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Alot of people in here wouldn't touch Maho.es before 3rd round too. MANY had Trubisky over Mahomes

Even Nathan Peterman over Mahomes
[ Edited by krizay on Feb 17, 2021 at 5:55 PM ]
Feb 17, 2021 at 6:02 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Kyles had the opportunity to choose a wagyu steak (Mahomes & Watson) but instead opted for a stale cheeseburger from AMPM (Jimmy, Beathard, &/or wait for Cousins)

I dont have a lot of faith in Kyle trading up for Wilson, even if possible

I'll give you Mahomes because there were a number of people who loved him(cough*me ), but A LOT of people on here hated Watson. A lot of people on here thought he was overrated and many couldn't get past 49 mph at the combine.

"noodle arm" was used frequently in the Watson thread. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Watson was my guy heading into that draft. I was one of those defending Watson from posters calling him overrated and noodle arm lol I knew he was the real deal.

I knew Trubisky was going to suck and wanted no part of him. Proof is also in the thread.

Tbh, I didn't know much of Mahomes because I didn't watch Texas tech games but after watching highlights I could see why people were big on him going into the draft.
Feb 17, 2021 at 6:18 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Kyles had the opportunity to choose a wagyu steak (Mahomes & Watson) but instead opted for a stale cheeseburger from AMPM (Jimmy, Beathard, &/or wait for Cousins)

I dont have a lot of faith in Kyle trading up for Wilson, even if possible

I'll give you Mahomes because there were a number of people who loved him(cough*me ), but A LOT of people on here hated Watson. A lot of people on here thought he was overrated and many couldn't get past 49 mph at the combine.

"noodle arm" was used frequently in the Watson thread. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Definitely remember people losing their minds over the combine throw number lol.

I didn't have a huge preference in QBs but loved Watson's performance in big games. I was pretty much in the "if Kyle takes any of them I'm thrilled with it" camp...sucks that we didn't in hindsight and hopefully it was a big lesson for Kyle.
Feb 17, 2021 at 6:18 PM
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Kyles had the opportunity to choose a wagyu steak (Mahomes & Watson) but instead opted for a stale cheeseburger from AMPM (Jimmy, Beathard, &/or wait for Cousins)

I dont have a lot of faith in Kyle trading up for Wilson, even if possible

Yes because they were clear cut stars coming out of the draft process. That's why they went 10 & 12th overall.
Feb 17, 2021 at 6:19 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Kyles had the opportunity to choose a wagyu steak (Mahomes & Watson) but instead opted for a stale cheeseburger from AMPM (Jimmy, Beathard, &/or wait for Cousins)

I dont have a lot of faith in Kyle trading up for Wilson, even if possible

Yes because they were clear cut stars coming out of the draft process. That's why they went 10 & 12th overall.

Hindsight draft critiques are great
Feb 17, 2021 at 6:23 PM
Originally posted by genus49:
Definitely remember people losing their minds over the combine throw number lol.

I didn't have a huge preference in QBs but loved Watson's performance in big games. I was pretty much in the "if Kyle takes any of them I'm thrilled with it" camp...sucks that we didn't in hindsight and hopefully it was a big lesson for Kyle.

I remember people throwing out how Watson doesn't go through progressions, threw way too many INTS, accuracy wasn't amazing, wanted to play "hero" ball instead of make the easy play, one read and run blah blah blah.

I think a lot of people got a reality check on QB projections and scouting after that 2017 (same with Mahomes as well)
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 17, 2021 at 6:32 PM ]
Feb 17, 2021 at 6:32 PM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Hindsight draft critiques are great

Im right there...I wasn't sold on any of the top 3 QBs. I'm not gonna pretend I was. Hopefully our FO and kyle had learned. I learned that traits and upside matter.
Feb 17, 2021 at 6:37 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Hindsight draft critiques are great

Im right there...I wasn't sold on any of the top 3 QBs. I'm not gonna pretend I was. Hopefully our FO and kyle had learned. I learned that traits and upside matter.

I remember saying I think Malik McDowell is better than Solomon Thomas and having people laughing and ignoring that. Then I said we should trade the number 2 overall pick for the back up in New England Jimmy G.
Feb 17, 2021 at 6:42 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Im right there...I wasn't sold on any of the top 3 QBs. I'm not gonna pretend I was. Hopefully our FO and kyle had learned. I learned that traits and upside matter.

Kyle did go to 2 superbowls in 4 years with similar style QBs. I think he's pretty dialed in on what style of QB he wants.
Feb 17, 2021 at 9:10 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Kyles had the opportunity to choose a wagyu steak (Mahomes & Watson) but instead opted for a stale cheeseburger from AMPM (Jimmy, Beathard, &/or wait for Cousins)

I dont have a lot of faith in Kyle trading up for Wilson, even if possible

Yes because they were clear cut stars coming out of the draft process. That's why they went 10 & 12th overall.

I think you missed my point. My point is that Kyle obviously couldn't see that those two were potential stars, even when they had all the resources to do so. It doesn't matter that 8 other teams passed on them. It matters that Kyle passed on them for 3rd rd talent Beathard and possibly 4th rd talent Cousins (since that's were he was drafted )

so, what makes you confident in Kyle to believe values Wilson the way you do, to trade up for him?
Feb 17, 2021 at 9:12 PM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Hindsight draft critiques are great

I'm still baffled that pople couldn't see that Watson was going to be a star
Feb 17, 2021 at 10:32 PM
I was a mahomes Stan, but I will accept no AMPM bacon cheeseburger slander. Gimme one of those and a mayonnaise packet or two, and we good
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Feb 17, 2021 at 10:41 PM ]
Feb 17, 2021 at 10:40 PM
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I was a mahomes Stan, but I will except no AMPM bacon cheeseburger slander. Gimme one of those and a mayonnaise packet or two, and we good

Feb 18, 2021 at 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I'm still baffled that pople couldn't see that Watson was going to be a star

I had Vince Young Vibes
Feb 18, 2021 at 8:13 AM
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Heroism:
I'll give you Mahomes because there were a number of people who loved him(cough*me ), but A LOT of people on here hated Watson. A lot of people on here thought he was overrated and many couldn't get past 49 mph at the combine.

"noodle arm" was used frequently in the Watson thread. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Alot of people in here wouldn't touch Maho.es before 3rd round too. MANY had Trubisky over Mahomes

Even Nathan Peterman over Mahomes

Shoot, I posted that I wouldn't rule out the Browns taking him #1 overall. They may wish they had.
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