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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If only the FO got all their draft picks right 100% of the time. We'd be a dynasty again.

We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

From Alex Smith to Reuben Foster to Javon Kinlaw. Horrendous. I'm so glad Bosa went outside for his surgery and recovery.

No fault to the FO. They've gotta trust their medical staff. Hope They've learned though. You might want another independent look if you're going to risk another 1st rounder on an injured player for value-purposes.

What were Alex Smith's injury concerns? Wasn't Foster's biggest problem himself? Hurd and Lattimore would be better examples, IMO.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ Lynch didn't draft Lattimore.
man's Lattimore and Kinlaws knee issues were not even in the sane stratosphere



We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

It's not the sane medical staff . Not sure what Lattimore has to do with any of this
Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by susweel:
Bad knees


Welp. LOL

So sick of drafting players with "endless potential".

Would you rather draft guys with limited potential?
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If only the FO got all their draft picks right 100% of the time. We'd be a dynasty again.

We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

From Alex Smith to Reuben Foster to Javon Kinlaw. Horrendous. I'm so glad Bosa went outside for his surgery and recovery.

No fault to the FO. They've gotta trust their medical staff. Hope They've learned though. You might want another independent look if you're going to risk another 1st rounder on an injured player for value-purposes.

What were Alex Smith's injury concerns? Wasn't Foster's biggest problem himself? Hurd and Lattimore would be better examples, IMO.

I'm not just talking draft.

Dude had his shoulder destroyed. Medical staff told Nolan it was fine. Nolan mocked Alex after he struggled throwing. Found out afterwards his shoulder was wrecked. Long long history of crap medical advice here.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ Lynch didn't draft Lattimore.
man's Lattimore and Kinlaws knee issues were not even in the sane stratosphere



We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

It's not the sane medical staff . Not sure what Lattimore has to do with any of this

Long history of poor medical advice here with this franchise.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If only the FO got all their draft picks right 100% of the time. We'd be a dynasty again.

We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

From Alex Smith to Reuben Foster to Javon Kinlaw. Horrendous. I'm so glad Bosa went outside for his surgery and recovery.

No fault to the FO. They've gotta trust their medical staff. Hope They've learned though. You might want another independent look if you're going to risk another 1st rounder on an injured player for value-purposes.

What were Alex Smith's injury concerns? Wasn't Foster's biggest problem himself? Hurd and Lattimore would be better examples, IMO.

I'm not just talking draft.

Dude had his shoulder destroyed. Medical staff told Nolan it was fine. Nolan mocked Alex after he struggled throwing. Found out afterwards his shoulder was wrecked. Long long history of crap medical advice here.

Certainly isn't just draft. Dee Ford's tenure here was as frustrating for me as any. I know a lot of dudes her love Verrett, but that dude belongs in the convo also. I don't mind the FO taking the occasional chance on a draft pick because it's lower risk, higher reward. But I'm gonna lose my s**t if they sign another oft injured FA. No excuse for that.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ Lynch didn't draft Lattimore.
man's Lattimore and Kinlaws knee issues were not even in the sane stratosphere



We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

It's not the sane medical staff . Not sure what Lattimore has to do with any of this

Long history of poor medical advice here with this franchise.

I get that. But again these are not even the same medical guys. I also don't think it's a good comparison to try and use Lattimore and Kinlaw. One guy had his knee a absolutely destroyed to the point that teams took him off of their draft boards and the GM decided to take him in the 4th. Other guy had his knee flagged by some teams for risk of arthritis down the road.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by susweel:
Bad knees


Welp. LOL

So sick of drafting players with "endless potential".

Would you rather draft guys with limited potential?

Yes
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If only the FO got all their draft picks right 100% of the time. We'd be a dynasty again.

We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

From Alex Smith to Reuben Foster to Javon Kinlaw. Horrendous. I'm so glad Bosa went outside for his surgery and recovery.

No fault to the FO. They've gotta trust their medical staff. Hope They've learned though. You might want another independent look if you're going to risk another 1st rounder on an injured player for value-purposes.

What were Alex Smith's injury concerns? Wasn't Foster's biggest problem himself? Hurd and Lattimore would be better examples, IMO.

I'm not just talking draft.

Dude had his shoulder destroyed. Medical staff told Nolan it was fine. Nolan mocked Alex after he struggled throwing. Found out afterwards his shoulder was wrecked. Long long history of crap medical advice here.

f**k Nolan
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ Lynch didn't draft Lattimore.
man's Lattimore and Kinlaws knee issues were not even in the sane stratosphere



We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

It's not the sane medical staff . Not sure what Lattimore has to do with any of this

Long history of poor medical advice here with this franchise.

I get that. But again these are not even the same medical guys. I also don't think it's a good comparison to try and use Lattimore and Kinlaw. One guy had his knee a absolutely destroyed to the point that teams took him off of their draft boards and the GM decided to take him in the 4th. Other guy had his knee flagged by some teams for risk of arthritis down the road.

What does that have to do with what I said? Our S&C team has changed over several times too and they're still #1 in injuries.

As to today, it's about learning from past mistakes and improving those two areas. Which, obviously, we haven't.
Originally posted by 49ers_Life:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If only the FO got all their draft picks right 100% of the time. We'd be a dynasty again.

We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

From Alex Smith to Reuben Foster to Javon Kinlaw. Horrendous. I'm so glad Bosa went outside for his surgery and recovery.

No fault to the FO. They've gotta trust their medical staff. Hope They've learned though. You might want another independent look if you're going to risk another 1st rounder on an injured player for value-purposes.

What were Alex Smith's injury concerns? Wasn't Foster's biggest problem himself? Hurd and Lattimore would be better examples, IMO.

I'm not just talking draft.

Dude had his shoulder destroyed. Medical staff told Nolan it was fine. Nolan mocked Alex after he struggled throwing. Found out afterwards his shoulder was wrecked. Long long history of crap medical advice here.

f**k Nolan

Seriously.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ Lynch didn't draft Lattimore.
man's Lattimore and Kinlaws knee issues were not even in the sane stratosphere



We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

It's not the sane medical staff . Not sure what Lattimore has to do with any of this

Long history of poor medical advice here with this franchise.

I get that. But again these are not even the same medical guys. I also don't think it's a good comparison to try and use Lattimore and Kinlaw. One guy had his knee a absolutely destroyed to the point that teams took him off of their draft boards and the GM decided to take him in the 4th. Other guy had his knee flagged by some teams for risk of arthritis down the road.

What does that have to do with what I said? Our S&C team has changed over several times too and they're still #1 in injuries.

As to today, it's about learning from past mistakes and improving those two areas. Which, obviously, we haven't.

Because if it was the sane staff then I guess there could be some correlation, but there's not .
they are still #1 today?
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If only the FO got all their draft picks right 100% of the time. We'd be a dynasty again.

We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

From Alex Smith to Reuben Foster to Javon Kinlaw. Horrendous. I'm so glad Bosa went outside for his surgery and recovery.

No fault to the FO. They've gotta trust their medical staff. Hope They've learned though. You might want another independent look if you're going to risk another 1st rounder on an injured player for value-purposes.

What were Alex Smith's injury concerns? Wasn't Foster's biggest problem himself? Hurd and Lattimore would be better examples, IMO.

I'm not just talking draft.

Dude had his shoulder destroyed. Medical staff told Nolan it was fine. Nolan mocked Alex after he struggled throwing. Found out afterwards his shoulder was wrecked. Long long history of crap medical advice here.

Certainly isn't just draft. Dee Ford's tenure here was as frustrating for me as any. I know a lot of dudes her love Verrett, but that dude belongs in the convo also. I don't mind the FO taking the occasional chance on a draft pick because it's lower risk, higher reward. But I'm gonna lose my s**t if they sign another oft injured FA. No excuse for that.

This. I don't blame the FO for taking a shot or trusting their medical staff ("What shoulder?") but at some point you've got to minimize those decisions and not put yourself in position to even trust your medical staff who've let you down time and time again since forever.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ Lynch didn't draft Lattimore.
man's Lattimore and Kinlaws knee issues were not even in the sane stratosphere



We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

It's not the sane medical staff . Not sure what Lattimore has to do with any of this

Long history of poor medical advice here with this franchise.

I get that. But again these are not even the same medical guys. I also don't think it's a good comparison to try and use Lattimore and Kinlaw. One guy had his knee a absolutely destroyed to the point that teams took him off of their draft boards and the GM decided to take him in the 4th. Other guy had his knee flagged by some teams for risk of arthritis down the road.

What does that have to do with what I said? Our S&C team has changed over several times too and they're still #1 in injuries.

As to today, it's about learning from past mistakes and improving those two areas. Which, obviously, we haven't.

Because if it was the sane staff then I guess there could be some correlation, but there's not .
they are still #1 today?

True, but the patterns remain just like S&C. So there's something systemically wrong here.

I'll let you know in April when the AGL is in. I think the Chargers might end up #32 this year. But on the aggregate rank average for 9 years, they'll either be #31 or #32. I'm confident in that.
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 20, 2022 at 10:42 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
^ Lynch didn't draft Lattimore.
man's Lattimore and Kinlaws knee issues were not even in the sane stratosphere



We have to have the worst medical staff ever for the past 20 years.

It's not the sane medical staff . Not sure what Lattimore has to do with any of this

Long history of poor medical advice here with this franchise.

I get that. But again these are not even the same medical guys. I also don't think it's a good comparison to try and use Lattimore and Kinlaw. One guy had his knee a absolutely destroyed to the point that teams took him off of their draft boards and the GM decided to take him in the 4th. Other guy had his knee flagged by some teams for risk of arthritis down the road.

What does that have to do with what I said? Our S&C team has changed over several times too and they're still #1 in injuries.

As to today, it's about learning from past mistakes and improving those two areas. Which, obviously, we haven't.

Because if it was the sane staff then I guess there could be some correlation, but there's not .
they are still #1 today?

Trun, but the patterns remain just like S&C. So there's something systemically wrong here.

I'll let you know in April when the AGL is in. I think the Chargers might end up #32 this year. But on the aggregate rank average for 9 years, they'll either be #31 or #32. I'm confident in that.

Yes agree they have issues with injuries.
this year they are pretty banged up, but there happen to be a few other teams getting hammered too. Pretty crazy. I think the giants were the most banged up last year, but not 100%
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