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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
From an ESPN article about the biggest flaw on the Chiefs...

What's more concerning about the Chiefs, though, is that the offseason changes they made to try to improve their pass defense haven't really taken. After hiring Steve Spagnuolo to replace Bob Sutton, the Chiefs overhauled their secondary, adding three new starters in cornerback Bashaud Breeland, safety Tyrann Mathieu and rookie safety Juan Thornhill. The biggest shift, though, was up front, where they acquired Frank Clark and Alex Okafor to replace Dee Ford and Justin Houston on the edge. Both Clark and Okafor are solid against the run, but the Chiefs made those moves to try to improve their pass rush.

So far, the pass rush is much worse. Kansas City pressured opposing quarterbacks on 31.1% of dropbacks last season, the seventh-highest rate in football. This season, that same pressure rate has fallen all the way to 23.8%, which is just ahead of the Falcons at 25th in the NFL. Kansas City's sack rate hasn't fallen quite as precipitously, but quarterbacks have had an easier time against the Chiefs than they did a year ago.

So, maybe you experts who were saying we got hosed on the Ford deal can quit the and and the and enjoy the benefits of having a for real pass rush.

[ Edited by Nastastical on Sep 30, 2019 at 2:10 PM ]
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where those 2 dummies that told me the Chiefs defense had improved b/c they played 2 decent pre season games defensively
Originally posted by Garce:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Garce:
Anyone else concerned about Dee Ford and his long term prospects?

We invested heavily in a dude who looks to have a chronic knee problem.

This is Nick Bosa all over again lol.

Dude plays and balls out on gameday. Who cares about everything else?

How is this Nick Bosa? Does Bosa have chronic knee inflammation?

I mean it's similar in the sense that everybody freaks out over the week because he's not practicing every day but then on Sunday he plays and plays well. So all the freaking out during the week is for nothing.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I mean it's similar in the sense that everybody freaks out over the week because he's not practicing every day but then on Sunday he plays and plays well. So all the freaking out during the week is for nothing.

No it's not
Originally posted by Garce:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I mean it's similar in the sense that everybody freaks out over the week because he's not practicing every day but then on Sunday he plays and plays well. So all the freaking out during the week is for nothing.

No it's not

He's on pace to ball out with double-digit sacks over 16 games.

If he balls out on Sunday and never practices what does it matter?
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
He's on pace to ball out with double-digit sacks over 16 games.

If he balls out on Sunday and never practices what does it matter?

Exactly. Complain when it actually becomes a problem. He hasn't missed a game yet and has been killing it when he gets in. We ain't talking about the game we talking about practice... Practice.
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by LVJay:
As long as he's available when we meet the Patsies in this SB coming up...

I concur LV

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Originally posted by Garce:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I mean it's similar in the sense that everybody freaks out over the week because he's not practicing every day but then on Sunday he plays and plays well. So all the freaking out during the week is for nothing.

No it's not

putting words in peoples mouths.. few are "freaking out",, just concerned about the guys knee and his ability to hang in there for 16 games. he said himself its a chronic knee condition that has gotten worse while also saying he can handle it.. good. hope he can.. i think its fine to express concern for the guy. and if he can make it for us for 16 games cuz he is just a huge playmaker.. and yes.. i am also forward thinking and wondering how it will affect his future with the team. thats not freaking out. for gods sake
Originally posted by cciowa:
putting words in peoples mouths.. few are "freaking out",, just concerned about the guys knee and his ability to hang in there for 16 games. he said himself its a chronic knee condition that has gotten worse while also saying he can handle it.. good. hope he can.. i think its fine to express concern for the guy. and if he can make it for us for 16 games cuz he is just a huge playmaker.. and yes.. i am also forward thinking and wondering how it will affect his future with the team. thats not freaking out. for gods sake

Man, you have to quit thinking everyone is talking about you...
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by cciowa:
putting words in peoples mouths.. few are "freaking out",, just concerned about the guys knee and his ability to hang in there for 16 games. he said himself its a chronic knee condition that has gotten worse while also saying he can handle it.. good. hope he can.. i think its fine to express concern for the guy. and if he can make it for us for 16 games cuz he is just a huge playmaker.. and yes.. i am also forward thinking and wondering how it will affect his future with the team. thats not freaking out. for gods sake

Man, you have to quit thinking everyone is talking about you...

for your information.. i was talking to poster garce about how some posters accuse others of 'freaking out" about things... few are freaking out about ford. what is the other thing... oh 75 per cent of posters wanted lynch fired cuz he never spent big money on some free agent... that never happened. the extremes on both sides get a little silly.
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Originally posted by cciowa:
for your information.. i was talking to poster garce about how some posters accuse others of 'freaking out" about things... few are freaking out about ford. what is the other thing... oh 75 per cent of posters wanted lynch fired cuz he never spent big money on some free agent... that never happened. the extremes on both sides get a little silly.


All the knockers from the Lynch Lynch and Sack Saleh cheer squads have been a little quite of late. No light aircraft with a banner over Levi's stadium Sunday week ago.
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Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by cciowa:
for your information.. i was talking to poster garce about how some posters accuse others of 'freaking out" about things... few are freaking out about ford. what is the other thing... oh 75 per cent of posters wanted lynch fired cuz he never spent big money on some free agent... that never happened. the extremes on both sides get a little silly.


All the knockers from the Lynch Lynch and Sack Saleh cheer squads have been a little quite of late. No light aircraft with a banner over Levi's stadium Sunday week ago.

i still do not like saleh.lol.i gave lots of praise for lynch for the dee ford trade. i admit. i was irrational about the alexander signing cuz of the money and his knee. but after 2 hours. i actually did some research. calmed down and was on board. i am one of the dwindling people still on the jason v bandwagon! i admit i can be extreme
Is there any hope this guy can "fix" his knee in the off-season? If not, I can't imagine his career be more than a couple years managing such significant chronic pain.

Once again, he's questionable and it's on week 4 ( 5 w/ bye week)
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Oct 3, 2019 at 6:46 PM ]
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Is there any hope this guy can "fix" his knee in the off-season? If not, I can't imagine his career be more than a couple years managing such significant chronic pain.

Once again, he's questionable and it's on week 4 ( 5 w/ bye week)

Doesn't seem like it. Maybe they can try something different? Hopefully we can get 3 years out of him. Let him rest and see him on Monday
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