Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by 5Jan2003:

Deebo is likely asking the 49ers to agree to pay him a Tenth of a Billion Dollars to play football for the next 4 years.

He's not the first and won't be the last, but as this becomes normal, it's really out of whack.

Exactly what he is worth.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
No way. Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years.

Niners fans 2017: "Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years".

Niners fans 2022: "Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years."

Care to name all the trades he made in 2017?

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
25M-28M a year. Another team would be foolish to pay him 30+M a year and give up multiple 1st and then some for a trade.

I could see the Jets doing it--- They have draft capital. They don't really have any huge long-term contracts on their payroll. Saleh/LaFleur would love to have him on their team, and they would know how to utilize him.

Originally posted by NDSU:
Kupp is getting 15M a year. Deebo < Kupp.

Kupp signed that deal prior to 2020. He wasn't WR triple-crown winning, Super Bowl MVP Cooper Kupp at that point.
Next year is his contract year. Unless his performance falls off the face of the earth next year, he's going to command huge numbers when it's extension time.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
No way. Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years.

Niners fans 2017: "Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years".

Niners fans 2022: "Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years."

Care to name all the trades he made in 2017?

Sammy Watkins
Marcus Peters
Aquib Talib
Dante Fowler
Brandin Cooks

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by NDSU:
Kupp is getting 15M a year. Deebo < Kupp.

Kupp signed that deal prior to 2020. He wasn't WR triple-crown winning, Super Bowl MVP Cooper Kupp at that point.
Next year is his contract year. Unless his performance falls off the face of the earth next year, he's going to command huge numbers when it's extension time.

If Deebo's production is the same or better than it was this past season, his price tag is going to go up also.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by NDSU:
Kupp is getting 15M a year. Deebo < Kupp.

Kupp signed that deal prior to 2020. He wasn't WR triple-crown winning, Super Bowl MVP Cooper Kupp at that point.
Next year is his contract year. Unless his performance falls off the face of the earth next year, he's going to command huge numbers when it's extension time.

If Deebo's production is the same or better than it was this past season, his price tag is going to go up also.

Agreed.. All in all, an All-Pro nod at WR is already evidence that you are an elite WR. To replicate or top that in a subsequent season just further cements how good you are. And the thing about Deebo Samuel is that he's only 27 years old. He's entering into his prime now.

While we do have the option of the franchise tag, I'm very much of the opinion that we pay him long-term or trade him. I personally don't like the franchise tag as an option. All that does is just make a player unhappy, create a lot of drama for the team and fanbase, and extends things out another year. And in the meantime, his price tag probably goes up if he tacks on another productive season.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Doesn't take much for fans to s**t on their own lol.

Who cares if he's trying to get as much cash as he can. We watched SF spend nothing substantial in FA because they want to pay their own. We've seen teams across the league show that the cap is basically b******t. The freaking saints were like $80M in the red and now have the 6th most in cap space in the NFL ($20M)… they didn't cut a single person & signed a couple QBs along with others.

If ya'll are playing GM (and sounds like no one wants to pay him) why would another GM give up say a top 10 pick & or multiple 1sts and players PLUS pay him whatever made up APY ya'll think he's asking for?

They restructured like everybody lol. We didn't. Restructurings have us in this deep s**t with Dee Ford. And we were great on cap space for years until we did the big offseason where we brought in Kwon Alexander, Dee Ford and McKinnon and Richburg, all of whom we overpaid for because its free agency. The Falcons are eating how much dead money due to Matt Ryan's trade? Its real, but as long as you are willing to restructure or extend, you can kick the can down the road. It works when you have players you want to commit to. It doesn't work when the value of the player exceeds the value of the contract.

With that said, I'm with you on Deebo getting what he can and its BS that people are turning on him. They set aside this money and its a negotiation. 49ers (Paraag) typically don't just give players the whole bag. It's a negotiation. I would be concerned if we hit August and there was no extension in place. Hope this is done soon so we can get to Bosa.

Originally posted by frankieuc68:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Y'all still never learn from paying people a year or so too early huh? Jimmy G, D.Ford, J.McKinnon, M.Smith, K.Alexander.....y'all wanna add Deebo to that list too? He's been injured and missed games in all of his 3 seasons so far. Y'all cry and whined about D.Ford missing games and you wanna give Deebo up to 30 plus M a year contract? Lol....Trade his diva ass, Aiyuk will be better with Trey Lance anyway.

DID someone else called him DIVA ???

I LIKE THIS GUY ALREADY !!!

Oh boy, Moon creaming like Mayo with the idea of Deeva getting traded

Oh boy, frankie needs to have some cream and understand the DEEVAH is NOT the best NON QB in the NFL..

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by NDSU:
Kupp is getting 15M a year. Deebo < Kupp.

Kupp signed that deal prior to 2020. He wasn't WR triple-crown winning, Super Bowl MVP Cooper Kupp at that point.
Next year is his contract year. Unless his performance falls off the face of the earth next year, he's going to command huge numbers when it's extension time.

If Deebo's production is the same or better than it was this past season, his price tag is going to go up also.

Agreed.. All in all, an All-Pro nod at WR is already evidence that you are an elite WR. To replicate or top that in a subsequent season just further cements how good you are. And the thing about Deebo Samuel is that he's only 27 years old. He's entering into his prime now.

While we do have the option of the franchise tag, I'm very much of the opinion that we pay him long-term or trade him. I personally don't like the franchise tag as an option. All that does is just make a player unhappy, create a lot of drama for the team and fanbase, and extends things out another year. And in the meantime, his price tag probably goes up if he tacks on another productive season.

Exactly. Banking on him having an off year or getting injured so we can save money if we push off signing him another year is really one sided and kind of sad too. The other side is what I posted above. So what happens if he has another all pro season? Do we trade him because we may not be able to afford him at that point? What kind of message does that send to the rest of the team?

Just pay him, the cap will continue to go up, backload the contract, it's that simple, next year you do the same for Bosa !

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Just pay him, the cap will continue to go up, backload the contract, it's that simple, next year you do the same for Bosa !

We will. Just no rush.

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Just pay him, the cap will continue to go up, backload the contract, it's that simple, next year you do the same for Bosa !

True. But let's be real too… Trent Williams, George Kittle, Fred Warner are all signed to big long-term contracts as well. Two, three years from now when all of their cap hits rise… money will be tight.

I'm pretty sure we make it work, but just saying… it's understandable if things go the way of DeForest Buckner.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
No way. Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years.

Niners fans 2017: "Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years".

Niners fans 2022: "Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years."

Care to name all the trades he made in 2017?

Sammy Watkins

FTFY.

So your claim is factually incorrect.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
No way. Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years.

Niners fans 2017: "Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years".

Niners fans 2022: "Exactly how long do you think the Rams philosophy is sustainable for? They're mortgaging their future to win for the next couple of years."

Care to name all the trades he made in 2017?

Sammy Watkins

FTFY.

So your claim is factually incorrect.

Sure, cause a 1-year difference completely negates the point I'm trying to make.