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Jul 22, 2022 at 12:43 PM

NCommand
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
The 49ers don't need to unload Jimmy to extend Deebo and Bosa, they have $4.3M in cap room, they can lower Deebo's base salary & Bosa's roster bonus, but that's coming due on the 28th, I don't see a resolution to Jimmy until later in August, and I see deals for Deebo & Bosa before Jimmy is gone, plus they can create cap room by redoing Trent's deal, saves $4.904M, that & the $4.3M can go to both to extend them.

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Jul 22, 2022 at 12:44 PM

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NCommand
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Tick tock. Are we going to have a hold-in?

Jul 22, 2022 at 12:55 PM

#17118

AB81Rules
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Tick tock. Are we going to have a hold-in?

I don't think a true holdout, he may not practice, he may do what he did at minicamp, and I don't blame him, or Nick if they did that. But no holdout.

Jul 22, 2022 at 1:22 PM

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CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Deebo takes unnecessary punishment due to him being asking to do too much by Kyle.

Kittle takes too much punishment due to JG hanging him out to dry on those hospital throws.

Either way, that should change this season with a new QB at the helm ( good for Kittle ) and Deebo will mostly likely be utilised more as a receiver ( good for his health ).

Overall, this offense should be fun to watch this season with all the take we have. We just need to hope everyone stays healthy. Fingers crossed.

8 carries up the middle in an entire season isn't asking too much but if Deebo thinks it is (we don't really know ) then it's easy to just use him on the sweeps. Most receivers with any kind of speed are asked to do that. He takes way more punishment when he's breaking tackles and banging off of players than he does on 8 carries up the middle. It certainly isn't a big enough issue by itself to keep the 2 sides from reaching an agreement.

Jul 22, 2022 at 1:22 PM

#17120

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Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Tick tock. Are we going to have a hold-in?

I don't think a true holdout, he may not practice, he may do what he did at minicamp, and I don't blame him, or Nick if they did that. But no holdout.

no need to panic on hold outs

Kittle signed 8/15
Warner signed 7/21

Jul 22, 2022 at 1:44 PM

#17121

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Deebo takes unnecessary punishment due to him being asking to do too much by Kyle.

Kittle takes too much punishment due to JG hanging him out to dry on those hospital throws.

Either way, that should change this season with a new QB at the helm ( good for Kittle ) and Deebo will mostly likely be utilised more as a receiver ( good for his health ).

Overall, this offense should be fun to watch this season with all the take we have. We just need to hope everyone stays healthy. Fingers crossed.

8 carries up the middle in an entire season isn't asking too much but if Deebo thinks it is (we don't really know ) then it's easy to just use him on the sweeps. Most receivers with any kind of speed are asked to do that. He takes way more punishment when he's breaking tackles and banging off of players than he does on 8 carries up the middle. It certainly isn't a big enough issue by itself to keep the 2 sides from reaching an agreement.

I know yeah. I'm referring to him running and catching passes behind the LoS, all those tackles he's having to break just to pickup a chunk yardage. That should change to some extent, now that we have a QB who can actually launch the ball down field ( less punishment ) hopefully that bolds well for Deebo's and Kittles health for the rest of their career moving forward.

Jul 22, 2022 at 4:22 PM

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Cowherd was defending Deebo this morning saying that he doesn't blame him for not wanting to line up in the backfield because he takes a beating and it could shorten his career. Perfect example of a radio show host taking a talking point and running with it without looking at the facts.

I checked and Deebo lined up in the backfield 50 times. He only had 8 carries up the middle. Te rest were either around the left or right end so they were no more than a fly sweep. If he really felt that those 8 carries were going to shorten is career I'm sure he could convince Kyle not to run him into the middle.

Most real 49er fans know that Deebo and Kittle both get beat up because of the hard way they run. It has nothing to do with the play calling. When you consistently fight for extra yards you take more hits. Not too hard to figure out.

On those sweeps he's getting hit by defensive ends, linebackers and safeties.

He's not a RB and carrying 50 times per season, if your stat is correct, will for sure shorten his WR career. If they want him to do both jobs, they need to pay him for that.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jul 22, 2022 at 4:24 PM ]

Jul 22, 2022 at 7:47 PM

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I need some goddamn Deebo extension news.

Jul 22, 2022 at 7:51 PM

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AB81Rules
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Originally posted by mayo49:
I need some goddamn Deebo extension news.

What I need is a weird ass tweet from Lynch, like his 2021 about Juice, I'm sick of refreshing & refreshing every 5 damn minutes, need both Bosa & Deebo done NOW.

Jul 22, 2022 at 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I need some goddamn Deebo extension news.

What I need is a weird ass tweet from Lynch, like his 2021 about Juice, I'm sick of refreshing & refreshing every 5 damn minutes, need both Bosa & Deebo done NOW.

Lol, yeah - the refreshing is getting tiresome.

Jul 22, 2022 at 8:11 PM

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Deebo became a superstar by being a dual role player and if he doesn't want to do RB anymore then fine, but then we don't pay him like the superstar he thinks he is. He gets a contract that's commensurate to his WR skills which are good, but not elite or at least to date.

Jul 22, 2022 at 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by WINiner:
Deebo became a superstar by being a dual role player and if he doesn't want to do RB anymore then fine, but then we don't pay him like the superstar he thinks he is. He gets a contract that's commensurate to his WR skills which are good, but not elite or at least to date.

Well he did superstar wide receiver things like leading the league in YPC and 1400 yards while missing almost 3 games (the time he was held out in games and missed time/plays).

Also, before becoming essentially a RB, he was only behind Kupp in YPG and that's with WAY LESS TARGETS, with a worse qb. You could easily argue Deebo is a better wr by a decent margin. He didn't have the targets or qbs that Adams, Hill or Kupp had.

Jul 23, 2022 at 12:45 AM

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Hopefully, something happens with Deebo and Nick before Tuesday.

Jul 25, 2022 at 2:07 AM

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Originally posted by mayo49:
Hopefully, something happens with Deebo and Nick before Tuesday.

Maybe Deebo but since Bosa is scheduled to make a lot of money next year (without an extension this off-season) it's not an urgent matter for him or our FO. I wouldn't count on an extension this year.

Jul 25, 2022 at 2:32 AM

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Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Hopefully, something happens with Deebo and Nick before Tuesday.

Maybe Deebo but since Bosa is scheduled to make a lot of money next year (without an extension this off-season) it's not an urgent matter for him or our FO. I wouldn't count on an extension this year.

Yeah, we can wait a year on Bosa.