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Chicago Bears vs. San Francisco 49ers Rebuilding Plan

Originally posted by tjd808185:
They got a nice break with Mack becoming available because without him I bet they'd still be a 4 to 6 win team.

Personally I wish we had the balls to do that but hey we'll be getting a top 5 pick to try and close that gap. Long term with Jimmy I'd take that over Mitchell so I'm guessing we'll catch up to them.

Long term you'll take the older qb who has 2 signifficant injuries in about 10 starts? Homers gonna homer
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
The key here is Khalil Mack and Allen Robinson.

They acquired both of them. We did not.

I bet our records are reversed if we had acquired them instead (well the Bears are still probably better than 2-8 since Trubisky likely doesn't get hurt).

Oh well.

Mack maybe but I'd still rather keep out 1st round picks.

Robinson is average. He is averaging 57 YPC which translates to 955 yards over 16. That is not worth 10 mil a year.
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Mack maybe but I'd still rather keep out 1st round picks.

Robinson is average. He is averaging 57 YPC which translates to 955 yards over 16. That is not worth 10 mil a year.

FYI: Robinson is getting healthy now (had a groin for about a month); had 133 yards and 2 TD's last game. Got some explosion back. He'd be the perfect fit at Z for us.
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 17, 2018 at 11:38 AM ]
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
The key here is Khalil Mack and Allen Robinson.

They acquired both of them. We did not.

I bet our records are reversed if we had acquired them instead (well the Bears are still probably better than 2-8 since Trubisky likely doesn't get hurt).

Oh well.

Mack maybe but I'd still rather keep out 1st round picks.

Robinson is average. He is averaging 57 YPC which translates to 955 yards over 16. That is not worth 10 mil a year.

Yeah the thing about 1st round picks, like cash, if not spent wisely or used well it really isn't a benefit.

Also, every team gets a 1st round pick (if not traded) every year. Every team doesn't get a chance to grab a game-changer type play-maker every year.
[ Edited by NinerGM on Nov 17, 2018 at 12:41 PM ]
Originally posted by crabman82:
Long term you'll take the older qb who has 2 signifficant injuries in about 10 starts? Homers gonna homer

I'll give you the injuries that is a concern but Jimmy just turned 27.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Nov 17, 2018 at 12:38 PM ]
I appreciate the length you went to make this thread, but ultimately there are only 2 differences in the two teams that matter.

1) health of franchise QBs

2) one team had the balls to trade for a Defensive Player of the Year just entering his prime, and one team had to try to comfort its fans by selling a story that they were close to trading for said DPOY.

Its really that simple.
Why is everyone saying that once we are healthy we can compare. Being healthy is a part of it whether you like it or not. If we never stay healthy can you say oh well we cant compare the rebuilds because we never got healthy. Plus, we have had numerous player hurt year in and out. At some point you have to really ask why do we continually have so many people hurt. Staff, development, players themselves. What is it
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I appreciate the length you went to make this thread, but ultimately there are only 2 differences in the two teams that matter.

1) health of franchise QBs

2) one team had the balls to trade for a Defensive Player of the Year just entering his prime, and one team had to try to comfort its fans by selling a story that they were close to trading for said DPOY.

Its really that simple.

LMAO...thanks. You still have the best name in here; makes me laugh every time.
Originally posted by teylo31:
Why is everyone saying that once we are healthy we can compare. Being healthy is a part of it whether you like it or not. If we never stay healthy can you say oh well we cant compare the rebuilds because we never got healthy. Plus, we have had numerous player hurt year in and out. At some point you have to really ask why do we continually have so many people hurt. Staff, development, players themselves. What is it

The best ability is availability
Originally posted by teylo31:
Why is everyone saying that once we are healthy we can compare. Being healthy is a part of it whether you like it or not. If we never stay healthy can you say oh well we cant compare the rebuilds because we never got healthy. Plus, we have had numerous player hurt year in and out. At some point you have to really ask why do we continually have so many people hurt. Staff, development, players themselves. What is it

Totally fair. The thing, outside a FQB, is there were only two teams more injured than us on the aggregate over the past 4 years...Chicago and Washington.

That said, we're still one of the most injured and they've seemed to have flipped the script this year; maybe with better players comes better health.

Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by teylo31:
Why is everyone saying that once we are healthy we can compare. Being healthy is a part of it whether you like it or not. If we never stay healthy can you say oh well we cant compare the rebuilds because we never got healthy. Plus, we have had numerous player hurt year in and out. At some point you have to really ask why do we continually have so many people hurt. Staff, development, players themselves. What is it

The best ability is availability

Absolutely and should factor in the rating of an organization's personnel management skills to ensure they (1) have acquired available talent and (2) have enough depth to weather the loss of a few players here or there.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by teylo31:
Why is everyone saying that once we are healthy we can compare. Being healthy is a part of it whether you like it or not. If we never stay healthy can you say oh well we cant compare the rebuilds because we never got healthy. Plus, we have had numerous player hurt year in and out. At some point you have to really ask why do we continually have so many people hurt. Staff, development, players themselves. What is it

Totally fair. The thing, outside a FQB, is there were only two teams more injured than us on the aggregate over the past 4 years...Chicago and Washington.

That said, we're still one of the most injured and they've seemed to have flipped the script this year; maybe with better players comes better health.

I wasnt directing my post at you just in general. Seems like this team gets a pass lately because players are hurt but that situation needs to be fixed
Originally posted by teylo31:
I wasnt directing my post at you just in general. Seems like this team gets a pass lately because players are hurt but that situation needs to be fixed

Oh no, no worries at all. I'm totally with you on this. There's more to this than just something in the water. Bears turned it around...hope we can do the same next year.
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Hilarious how obsessed NCommand is with comparing Bears rebuild to the Niners..lol

Originally posted by FL9er:
Hilarious how obsessed NCommand is with comparing Bears rebuild to the Niners..lol


Excellent contribution to the topic, man.
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