Pat Mahomes and the Kansas City Swifties Thread

Originally posted by Heroism:
Future goat

Frog

That was a phantom call. The wrong call. No holding. But the Chiefs would have won anyway. But the Eagles would have a chance if they didn't call that terrible call. Come on 1 something minutes left in the 4th quarter in the Super Bowl and that call. He barely got his hands on the WR. Didn't really hold him too bad. Way overblown IMO. The Chiefs would have still won. Just don't hand it to them.

Best QB alive. On pace to be the greatest ever. Already the best peak ever.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Best QB alive. On pace to be the greatest ever. Already the best peak ever.

It still will be tough to reach the Brady 7 Super Bowl wins and played in 10. But maybe. Burrow, Herbert and Josh Allen will be in the way in the AFC. Injuries and free agent departures come into play. As will age and injuries. Kelce isn't really that young anymore. He's 33 now. So he shouldn't get any better. He will get slower, more injured and worse. That could be a big chink in their armor. The 49ers will be there to challenge from the NFC. I don't think he will win every Super Bowl. But will win his share and more than he has now. No doubt about it.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Best QB alive. On pace to be the greatest ever. Already the best peak ever.

It still will be tough to reach the Brady 7 Super Bowl wins and played in 10. But maybe. Burrow, Herbert and Josh Allen will be in the way in the AFC. Injuries and free agent departures come into play. As will age and injuries. Kelce isn't really that young anymore. He's 33 now. So he shouldn't get any better. He will get slower, more injured and worse. That could be a big chink in their armor. The 49ers will be there to challenge from the NFC. I don't think he will win every Super Bowl. But will win his share and more than he has now. No doubt about it.

The eye test says mahomes is/will be better than Brady,

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Best QB alive. On pace to be the greatest ever. Already the best peak ever.

It still will be tough to reach the Brady 7 Super Bowl wins and played in 10. But maybe. Burrow, Herbert and Josh Allen will be in the way in the AFC. Injuries and free agent departures come into play. As will age and injuries. Kelce isn't really that young anymore. He's 33 now. So he shouldn't get any better. He will get slower, more injured and worse. That could be a big chink in their armor. The 49ers will be there to challenge from the NFC. I don't think he will win every Super Bowl. But will win his share and more than he has now. No doubt about it.

The eye test says mahomes is/will be better than Brady,

I'm not sure about that. It will be tough to play in 10 and win 7 times. Even for him. You need to play a long time. Longevity and injury free. You need the team to hold up. Kelce will get old here real soon. Others guys are waiting for him now in the AFC. I doubt he wins every single year. He will get beat a few times in the playoffs. He did by Burrow and Brady. More will come. He could have some injury years. Age and free agency and salary cap restrictions will hit that team. He can't claim that now. But he is awfully good up to now. No doubt about it.

5 years as a starter with 2 rings, another SB appearance, and nothing worse than the AFC Finals. You still can't call him the goat this early into his career but yeah he's on pace to be the goat. And Brady was still a game manager at this point.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
5 years as a starter with 2 rings, another SB appearance, and nothing worse than the AFC Finals. You still can't call him the goat this early into his career but yeah he's on pace to be the goat. And Brady was still a game manager at this point.

Win 7 times and play in 10 will still be tough. Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet. He's great so far. We will see. For now Brady is still the GOAT.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tjd808185:
5 years as a starter with 2 rings, another SB appearance, and nothing worse than the AFC Finals. You still can't call him the goat this early into his career but yeah he's on pace to be the goat. And Brady was still a game manager at this point.

Win 7 times and play in 10 will still be tough. Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet. He's great so far. We will see. For now Brady is still the GOAT.

especially if reid retires

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Best QB alive. On pace to be the greatest ever. Already the best peak ever.

Agreed. Many "experts" predicted that Mahomes would struggle this season after the Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill, but Mahomes proved all of them wrong by winning the MVP and leading the Chiefs to their second Super Bowl title in 5 years. He may not win as many Super Bowls as Tom Brady ( 7 is a huge number), but if he stays healthy, he will run away with every important QB metric in the book (tds, yards, rating). And I would be hella surprised, if the Chiefs don't manage to win at least another couple of Super Bowls along the way.

Originally posted by AlmighT49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tjd808185:
5 years as a starter with 2 rings, another SB appearance, and nothing worse than the AFC Finals. You still can't call him the goat this early into his career but yeah he's on pace to be the goat. And Brady was still a game manager at this point.

Win 7 times and play in 10 will still be tough. Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet. He's great so far. We will see. For now Brady is still the GOAT.

especially if reid retires

Kelce is 33 right now. He will get older. Slow down and get more injured and less effective. That will take a lot of flame out of their fire and hopefully slow them down a bit more. We will see. We can only hope.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That was a phantom call. The wrong call. No holding. But the Chiefs would have won anyway. But the Eagles would have a chance if they didn't call that terrible call. Come on 1 something minutes left in the 4th quarter in the Super Bowl and that call. He barely got his hands on the WR. Didn't really hold him too bad. Way overblown IMO. The Chiefs would have still won. Just don't hand it to them.

Bradberry admitted after the game that the call was correct. He said he hoped the refs would let it slide.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That was a phantom call. The wrong call. No holding. But the Chiefs would have won anyway. But the Eagles would have a chance if they didn't call that terrible call. Come on 1 something minutes left in the 4th quarter in the Super Bowl and that call. He barely got his hands on the WR. Didn't really hold him too bad. Way overblown IMO. The Chiefs would have still won. Just don't hand it to them.

Bradberry admitted after the game that the call was correct. He said he hoped the refs would let it slide.

It was NOT a hold. 1 something minutes left in the Super Bowl you don't call that garbage just so Mahomes can win. The result would be the same. Chiefs win. But the Eagles have a little better chance. A ticky tack call for the Super Bowl. Very, very minor play there. Outrageous call with the time and Super Bowl on the line. Still same result IMO. Chiefs win.

Mahomes doesn't have to win 7. He gets 4 and you can make a solid argument. Clearly he's more talented then Brady. He might not have Reid around for a decade though.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
5 years as a starter with 2 rings, another SB appearance, and nothing worse than the AFC Finals. You still can't call him the goat this early into his career but yeah he's on pace to be the goat. And Brady was still a game manager at this point.

Two MVPs in his first 5 years is pretty unmatched. He is without a doubt on GOAT trajectory.