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Originally posted by jcs:
No less unprofessional than quitting on a team with a 32 point powerpoint presentation so you can work for your dad.

Shanahan wanted out of his Browns contract after the front office started to dictate which quarterback he had to play and how he was going to run his offense.


Mike Shanahan was already out of the NFL by that point.


Nothing unprofessional about telling a s**tty employer to get bent when they renege on the terms of a deal they agreed to.



Shanahan admitted that factions inside the building working against each other caused him to leave.

"It's tough to win when you're not on the same page," he said. "It's tough to win even when you are on the same page.''

Among other things, Shanahan was rankled by former Browns general manager Ray Farmer's impermissible in-game texts to assistants questioning playcalling and use of personnel. Farmer was ultimately suspended four games and the Browns fined $250,000 for the infraction. But there were 31 other things, likely including that Shanahan wanted either Derek Carr or Jimmy Garoppolo in the draft and the Browns drafted Johnny Manziel instead.

"There was a number of things,'' said Shanahan. "Obviously, the texts were one of the few things. When you get a feeling not everyone's going in the same direction, when you have that feeling, it makes it very tough to win. That was the feeling for a number of reasons that I had there."

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/02/kyle_shanahan_on_leaving_cleve.html



One of the big reasons he left was that he wasn't on the same page with the people in Berea, presumably with the front office's desire to see Johnny Manziel over Brian Hoyer despite the fact that the then-rookie quarterback was not ready. In Mary Kay Cabot's article on Shanahan, she says that then-GM Ray Farmer "texted assistants during games to complain about Shanahan's playcalling and use of personnel." We've heard about Farmer's texting before, but that note seems a bit more specific, reporting it as fact versus rumor.
Coming out of the draft, Cabot cited a source that said Shanahan's preference of quarterbacks in 2014 started with QB Derek Carr and was followed by QB Jimmy Garoppolo. The same report says that Shanahan did not prefer to go with QB Johnny Manziel or QB Teddy Bridgewater. Shanahan confirmed to reporters that he liked Garoppolo a lot coming out of that draft, but that the front office went a different direction.

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Originally posted by facestabber:
What in the absolute hell is this? Hired then poached by that turd franchise. Well I'm starting today pissed off.

Don't be. This was a desperation hire of someone not qualified after they left their current DC in a really bad spot. I was more worried when he was hired by 49ers although he seemed to be in a glorified linebacker's coach type of job. He has no record of success in coaching at any level. With all the coaching positions open recently no one was interested in KNJ.

I suspect much turmoil in Seahawks organization re: next year. Most teams that were able to beat Philly and Dallas on road in addition to being a few field goals away from a weak playoff field would normally not have this kind of upheaval. I live up here and their fans are stunned (and worried). This sounds like an Eddie Debartolo type over reaction.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jcs:
No less unprofessional than quitting on a team with a 32 point powerpoint presentation so you can work for your dad.

Shanahan wanted out of his Browns contract after the front office started to dictate which quarterback he had to play and how he was going to run his offense.

Mike Shanahan was already out of the NFL by that point.

Nothing unprofessional about telling a s**tty employer to get bent when they renege on the terms of a deal they agreed to.

He was the OC, he had no right either assumed or actual based on his position to tell anyone above him who to draft and who to start.

His actions were more unprofessional than Nortons but in the end neither really matter.

Norton took a better offer, why blame him as a few have when they would do the same themselves.
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LoL. Things just get better and better. So damn fun and our season has been over for months.

This will be the best offseason ever.
I can let Seahawks fans are happy and get Ken Norton Jr back his team. We have no problem with that. Good luck Seahawks fans.
Originally posted by jcs:
He was the OC, he had no right either assumed or actual based on his position to tell anyone above him who to draft and who to start.

His actions were more unprofessional than Nortons but in the end neither really matter.

Norton took a better offer, why blame him as a few have when they would do the same themselves.



Actually it was reported by Mary Kay Cabot that he had been given full control over the offense so when the front office started to tell him who he should be starting, that was plenty of reason for him to want out of the deal. Mike Pettine talked about it after he left Cleveland and said that he fully understood and accepted Kyle's reasoning. He knew that front office was wrong.


Kyle is HC of the 49ers, Pettine is DC of the Packers. What is Ray Farmer doing these days?
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jcs:
No less unprofessional than quitting on a team with a 32 point powerpoint presentation so you can work for your dad.

Shanahan wanted out of his Browns contract after the front office started to dictate which quarterback he had to play and how he was going to run his offense.

Mike Shanahan was already out of the NFL by that point.

Nothing unprofessional about telling a s**tty employer to get bent when they renege on the terms of a deal they agreed to.

He was the OC, he had no right either assumed or actual based on his position to tell anyone above him who to draft and who to start.

His actions were more unprofessional than Nortons but in the end neither really matter.

Norton took a better offer, why blame him as a few have when they would do the same themselves.

If we're talking about unprofessional actions in that situation, it's pretty easy to go with the party that was literally fined by the NFL due to their actions.

And a front office that's also dictating which players start and which players don't on the football side of things is also super disfunctional, before we even get into trying to control in game playcalling through text messages.

I've got literally no problem at all with Norton taking a better position and I'm glad the 9ers didn't try to block him, but blaming Shanahan for trying to get out of that Browns situation is also asinine, IMO.
I'm telling you man. Ken Norton is a trash D.C. hopefully it's true that he left and got that job.
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
I'm telling you man. Ken Norton is a trash D.C. hopefully it's true that he left and got that job.

It's true.
The Seahawks announced three additions to their coaching staff Tuesday, naming Brian Schottenheimer offensive coordinator, Ken Norton Jr. defensive coordinator and Mike Solari offensive line coach.

Kris Richard, who served as defensive coordinator the past three seasons, was relieved of his duties, as was linebackers coach/assistant head coach/defense Michael Barrow. The Seahawks relieved previous offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell and offensive line coach/assistant head coach Tom Cable of their duties last week.
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He did us dirty, I understand it's a bigger position but karma will come around in the form of us dropping 40 on them
maybe the seahawks will finally start to try to rebuild.

all that Russell Wilson money and ex hawk money.
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Originally posted by Sourball:
Good. How soon til I can stop seeing him in his Raider gear on the front of WZ?

THIS
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jcs:
He was the OC, he had no right either assumed or actual based on his position to tell anyone above him who to draft and who to start.

His actions were more unprofessional than Nortons but in the end neither really matter.

Norton took a better offer, why blame him as a few have when they would do the same themselves.



Actually it was reported by Mary Kay Cabot that he had been given full control over the offense so when the front office started to tell him who he should be starting, that was plenty of reason for him to want out of the deal. Mike Pettine talked about it after he left Cleveland and said that he fully understood and accepted Kyle's reasoning. He knew that front office was wrong.


Kyle is HC of the 49ers, Pettine is DC of the Packers. What is Ray Farmer doing these days?

Something that is being overlooked is Norton is basically going up there to be pete's assistant in charge of the defense. It would be like if Kyle had an OC. It's not a true position like in other teams, which is why Kyle doesn't even bother hiring one.
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Something that is being overlooked is Norton is basically going up there to be pete's assistant in charge of the defense. It would be like if Kyle had an OC. It's not a true position like in other teams, which is why Kyle doesn't even bother hiring one.

Desperate move to keep the band together for one more year probably lol.
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