Jon Gruden

Nov 24, 2017 at 8:58 AM

DickNasty
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What's with all the hype every year? He's slightly better than a .500 coach as per his record. He won his Superbowl with a crazy defense which he inherited from Tony Dungee. I just don't get why everyone talks about him as if he was Bill Walsh 2.0?

Nov 24, 2017 at 10:56 AM

cciowa
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Originally posted by DickNasty:
What's with all the hype every year? He's slightly better than a .500 coach as per his record. He won his Superbowl with a crazy defense which he inherited from Tony Dungee. I just don't get why everyone talks about him as if he was Bill Walsh 2.0?

the team should have tried to get him when jh left town. at the time with a vet team we needed an established vet coach in my opinion.

Nov 24, 2017 at 11:32 AM

NYniner85
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Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by DickNasty:
What's with all the hype every year? He's slightly better than a .500 coach as per his record. He won his Superbowl with a crazy defense which he inherited from Tony Dungee. I just don't get why everyone talks about him as if he was Bill Walsh 2.0?

the team should have tried to get him when jh left town. at the time with a vet team we needed an established vet coach in my opinion.

one of the most overrated HC in the history of the NFL IMO....no way in hell Gruden was jumping on that grenade (coming here). He's got a nice cozy job that pays him a s**t ton of money. No stress and he can have that job for the next 20 yrs if he wants.

Nov 24, 2017 at 12:09 PM

Ensatsu
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Originally posted by cciowa:
the team should have tried to get him when jh left town. at the time with a vet team we needed an established vet coach in my opinion.

lol. He would have been run out of town with Baalke's s**t roster.

Nov 24, 2017 at 1:25 PM

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He's a good coach maybe for a team that already got a bunch of vets and just needs coaching. I don't know about him being able to build a team.

He is overrated tho imo. But he won a SB so his name is always gonna get brought up just like Cowher.

Nov 24, 2017 at 3:55 PM

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Good coach but overrated as hell. You'd think he was just a notch below Belichick. He went to Tampa, won with a roster that had been coached by Dungy previously and had been assembled by Rich McKay. After they won, Gruden shoved McKay out the door, brought in his buddy Bruce Allen and slowly everything began to regress and they went from one of the most talented rosters in football to one of the least. He was basically Jeff Fisher level in the years after winning the SB.

Nov 24, 2017 at 3:59 PM

GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good coach but overrated as hell. You'd think he was just a notch below Belichick. He went to Tampa, won with a roster that had been coached by Dungy previously and had been assembled by Rich McKay. After they won, Gruden shoved McKay out the door, brought in his buddy Bruce Allen and slowly everything began to regress and they went from one of the most talented rosters in football to one of the least. He was basically Jeff Fisher level in the years after winning the SB.

he's a players coach that can relate with the guys (espcially when was HC in his 30s with the Bucs), get's the most of thems, but needs good X's and O's guys around him. he's overrated, but he's still better than a lot of coaches i

Nov 25, 2017 at 7:25 AM

leebert81
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I completely agree with the OP. I don't get it at all.

Nov 25, 2017 at 3:12 PM

LasVegasWally
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IMO, he'll never leave TV.

Easy job, lots of loot and not 24/7 like coaching.

Dec 31, 2017 at 7:16 AM

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Dr_Bill_Walsh
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Gumnan's idiot to kill idle John....

Dec 31, 2017 at 7:48 AM

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49erWill
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So the raiders are offering 10mil a year and part ownership in the team

Dec 31, 2017 at 8:01 AM

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Buchy
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Originally posted by 49erWill:
So the raiders are offering 10mil a year and part ownership in the team

Sucks to be Del Rio, I'm assuming he doesn't get the rest of his contract value if he quits so he's got to sit there like a lame duck.

Dec 31, 2017 at 8:05 AM

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blizzuntz
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Originally posted by 49erWill:
So the raiders are offering 10mil a year and part ownership in the team

Depends on how much ownership

Dec 31, 2017 at 8:12 AM

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Dr_Bill_Walsh
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49erWill:
So the raiders are offering 10mil a year and part ownership in the team

Depends on how much ownership

Raiders will blackmail him with a dead Vegas hooker...Godfather II style

Dec 31, 2017 at 8:14 AM

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Jcool
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MNF saved him from being another Brian Billick. IDK how they fire a guy with ownership stake but it will be fun to watch in a few years.