Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Scooper1:
I don't understand how people don't understand that tartt carries a lot of the blame. Haha. It was a can of corn pop fly with 9:50 left. We were up 17-14 and the Rams scored after the dropped pick. An interception at the time changes the entire flow and psychology of the game. It puts the defense on the sidelines resting up for the next series rather than on the field getting more reps. It gives the offense a psychological boost running on the field knowing the cam out the game away. It changes Kyle's mind set when calling plays. It puts the rams defense back on the field causing them to have that many more reps for the end of the game. There are 1 to a handful of plays in playoff games that creates the flow of the game and that was one of them. You can point to deficiencies on every unit during that game including the Qb but to deny that that dropped interception didn't have massive repercussions on the remainder of the game is laughable.

I agree it definitely would've given the offense a boost but idk the offensive line was not playing good. Would've been hard to move the ball. I'm not denying it didn't have massive repercussions to the remainder of the game but I also won't solely blame the loss on a dropped interception. They had a few more possessions to move the ball and score. Kyle should've called better plays and gave the ball to Deebo more. Jimmy also should've thrown to his receivers that he missed downfield. Maybe the interception would've led to a more efficient drive or two and closing out the victory but alas it is what it is.

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
the browns paid 10 million of baker mayfield's salary for a 4th or 5th round pick. i don't know why niner fans think we have to beat the sh# out of every team in a trade. this trade works for everyone ... give a litlle to get a little ...capice

Hard pass.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
the browns paid 10 million of baker mayfield's salary for a 4th or 5th round pick. i don't know why niner fans think we have to beat the sh# out of every team in a trade. this trade works for everyone ... give a litlle to get a little ...capice

Baker's money was GTD. Jimmy's is not....it's not even close to the same situation.

Jimmy knows he will not see that 26 million and so does his agent. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that.

Because it is still a factor in making a trade. Either the team trading for him will have to pay it (unlikely), or the team trading for him and Jimmy's camp will have to work out a new contract prior to making the trade.

So while Jimmy is most likely not going to make the $25M or whatever it is next season, for people to continue to say it doesnt matter at all is not accurate at all. Its absolutely a hurdle that will need to be overcome.

browns gonna brown?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Because it is still a factor in making a trade. Either the team trading for him will have to pay it (unlikely), or the team trading for him and Jimmy's camp will have to work out a new contract prior to making the trade.

So while Jimmy is most likely not going to make the $25M or whatever it is next season, for people to continue to say it doesnt matter at all is not accurate at all. Its absolutely a hurdle that will need to be overcome.

no it's not really...negotiating a new deal is a factor NOT that $25M because NO ONE is paying him that cash, no one is forced too (non-GTD).

There's no point to use that number for anything. It's not real. Jimmy just like if he was cut will have to negotiate a new deal in any trade. You need to look at it as if he was cut right now as far as cap space and his contract go....

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
the browns paid 10 million of baker mayfield's salary for a 4th or 5th round pick. i don't know why niner fans think we have to beat the sh# out of every team in a trade. this trade works for everyone ... give a litlle to get a little ...capice

Baker's money was GTD. Jimmy's is not....it's not even close to the same situation.

Jimmy knows he will not see that 26 million and so does his agent. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that.

Because it is still a factor in making a trade. Either the team trading for him will have to pay it (unlikely), or the team trading for him and Jimmy's camp will have to work out a new contract prior to making the trade.

So while Jimmy is most likely not going to make the $25M or whatever it is next season, for people to continue to say it doesnt matter at all is not accurate at all. Its absolutely a hurdle that will need to be overcome.

Jimmy and his agent have supposedly been talking to teams for months. You don't think terms were discussed?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
the browns paid 10 million of baker mayfield's salary for a 4th or 5th round pick. i don't know why niner fans think we have to beat the sh# out of every team in a trade. this trade works for everyone ... give a litlle to get a little ...capice

Baker's money was GTD. Jimmy's is not....it's not even close to the same situation.

Jimmy knows he will not see that 26 million and so does his agent. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that.

Because it is still a factor in making a trade. Either the team trading for him will have to pay it (unlikely), or the team trading for him and Jimmy's camp will have to work out a new contract prior to making the trade.

So while Jimmy is most likely not going to make the $25M or whatever it is next season, for people to continue to say it doesnt matter at all is not accurate at all. Its absolutely a hurdle that will need to be overcome.

It is not a significant hurdle in anyway. Sign and trade is not exactly unheard of in the NFL. The team tells Jimmy agent, if he wants to come here, we offer "x" on a new contract . He can say no or yes, with a no, no trade happens.Then he is cut and has no more real leverage than he did originally, There would have to be multiple teams trying to sign him for him to have any kind of leverage. The $25M doesn't figure into any of the real options he will encounter.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Jimmy and his agent have supposedly been talking to teams for months. You don't think terms were discussed?

Exactly this

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Unless the browns are giving us like two seconds I'm not paying no $10m of his $$. It's great if we get a late round pick, better than nothing, but not if it means we pay a bunch of $$. Not worth it and we aren't exactly hurting for late round draft capital

The 49ers shouldn't take on any salary whatsoever. Cleveland has the space to make the move for Garoppolo at his current salary. If the league drops the hammer on Watson, they are going to need a QB very badly, or they can roll with Brissett who went 7-8 on the same team who went 11-5 with the corpse of Phillip Rivers at QB the following season.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Unless the browns are giving us like two seconds I'm not paying no $10m of his $$. It's great if we get a late round pick, better than nothing, but not if it means we pay a bunch of $$. Not worth it and we aren't exactly hurting for late round draft capital

The 49ers shouldn't take on any salary whatsoever. Cleveland has the space to make the move for Garoppolo at his current salary. If the league drops the hammer on Watson, they are going to need a QB very badly, or they can roll with Brissett who went 7-8 on the same team who went 11-5 with the corpse of Phillip Rivers at QB the following season.

Browns give Jimmy 1yr $10M with some unlikely to get incentives. SF gets a conditional 3rd (their comp pick for losing Kwesi Adolfo-Mensah). I believe that would give SF 4 3rd rd picks in 2023

If the Browns want to give us a 3rd for Jimmy instead of waiting 3 weeks for him to be cut, I am all for it.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If the Browns want to give us a 3rd for Jimmy instead of waiting 3 weeks for him to be cut, I am all for it.

"conditional"

anyway we can banish him to the NetherRealm until he is summoned by a demonic passage 160 years from now by a child who found the hidden scripture?

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
the browns paid 10 million of baker mayfield's salary for a 4th or 5th round pick. i don't know why niner fans think we have to beat the sh# out of every team in a trade. this trade works for everyone ... give a litlle to get a little ...capice

Baker's money was GTD. Jimmy's is not....it's not even close to the same situation.

Jimmy knows he will not see that 26 million and so does his agent. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that.

Because it is still a factor in making a trade. Either the team trading for him will have to pay it (unlikely), or the team trading for him and Jimmy's camp will have to work out a new contract prior to making the trade.

So while Jimmy is most likely not going to make the $25M or whatever it is next season, for people to continue to say it doesnt matter at all is not accurate at all. Its absolutely a hurdle that will need to be overcome.

It is not a significant hurdle in anyway. Sign and trade is not exactly unheard of in the NFL. The team tells Jimmy agent, if he wants to come here, we offer "x" on a new contract . He can say no or yes, with a no, no trade happens.Then he is cut and has no more real leverage than he did originally, There would have to be multiple teams trying to sign him for him to have any kind of leverage. The $25M doesn't figure into any of the real options he will encounter.

So what you are saying is, it IS a factor....which is really all I was saying.

The reason it is a factor is because if Jimmy had a, lets say a 1 year $12M non guaranteed contract, it would be much easier for Browns to simply say "ok send SF a pick and guarantee Jimmy the $12M." Because that number is $25M, they will have to work something out. And because they have to work that out, its not hard to believe that either Jimmy or the Browns would not agree with the other side.

Then there is also the idea that maybe the Browns would be willing to give Jimmy a few million more dollars for 2022 if they could just sign him as a free agent and not send us back a pick in return. Who knows at this point.

All I am saying is that the fact that Jimmy has a $25M non guaranteed contract for 2022 means that a few things will have to be ironed out to make a trade. It may not be difficult, but there are things that will need to be worked out.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If the Browns want to give us a 3rd for Jimmy instead of waiting 3 weeks for him to be cut, I am all for it.

I'd be happy with a money round 5th. Salvaging anything at this point would be turning a frown upside down.