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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The problem is that it would take me substantially longer.
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Originally posted by 49ers81:
All of this time, energy, and effort going into finding a "quantifiable metric" to prove that Jimmy is a bad QB just so you can convince a bunch of anonymous people in a fan forum that you're "right". No ego problems there right? Must be nice to have so much free time to waste.

TBPH, I appreciate it big time. If I wanted to pick it apart he showed all of his work so we can do that.

I think it is a very cool exercise and informative. I definitely appreciate any advance metric where the formulas are known.

Kudos to 5GR
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

One suggestion he had a bum throw hand and shoulder. No way he is operating at 100%. Perhaps he knows his ability to drive the deep ball is compromised to a degree in this game.

That said he had a 70 QBR in this one. Posted a higher QBR than Matt S in this game. Not the reason we lost.

We are moving on imo cuz we got shelled in 2018 and 2020. JG misses seasons like the SF Giants used to win championships; consistently and even years.
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on Apr 1, 2022 at 1:14 PM ]
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

One suggestion he had a bum throw hand and shoulder. No way he is operating at 100%. Perhaps he knows his ability to drive the deep ball is compromised to a degree in this game.

That said he had a 70 QBR in this one. Posted a higher QBR than Matt S in this game. Not the reason we lost.

We are moving on imo cuz we got shelled in 2018 and 2020. JG misses seasons like the SF Giants used to win championships; consistently and even years.

And Lance will never have an injury ever nor miss any game time.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

Trey gonna RIFLE that ball in there when he's up.
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

One suggestion he had a bum throw hand and shoulder. No way he is operating at 100%. Perhaps he knows his ability to drive the deep ball is compromised to a degree in this game.

That said he had a 70 QBR in this one. Posted a higher QBR than Matt S in this game. Not the reason we lost.

We are moving on imo cuz we got shelled in 2018 and 2020. JG misses seasons like the SF Giants used to win championships; consistently and even years.

And Lance will never have an injury ever nor miss any game time.

I mean he's already had em and yeah he probably will. Law of averages says he'll be more durable than JG I guess

One gripe here is I consistently see no protection of our investment we make in players. In 2018 JG had the boundary vs KC. He was fresh off signing the $137m deal. Did anyone pull him aside and say look you are too valuable to the club to put yourself at risk? Obviously not, at least if they did it didn't get through. Then we see the usage of TL vs Arizona after we invested 3 firsts. Used the dude as a battering ram. Need to get smarter here and that comes from the top imo.
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

Trey gonna RIFLE that ball in there when he's up.

Look at the safety at the top leaning toward the LOS. That is a TD to Deebo if Trey is standing in the pocket.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

One suggestion he had a bum throw hand and shoulder. No way he is operating at 100%. Perhaps he knows his ability to drive the deep ball is compromised to a degree in this game.

That said he had a 70 QBR in this one. Posted a higher QBR than Matt S in this game. Not the reason we lost.

We are moving on imo cuz we got shelled in 2018 and 2020. JG misses seasons like the SF Giants used to win championships; consistently and even years.

I can show you 2 or 3 other plays that were missed opportunities by Jimmy on the last 2 offensive possessions that weren't deep and/or outside, if you like?

Edit: It also seems that the team was surprised Jimmy was getting surgery on his shoulder. So it must have been worse than what he lead everyone to believe. So if he was physically incapable of making the necessary throws to win the game, he should have taken himself out.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Apr 1, 2022 at 1:43 PM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

One suggestion he had a bum throw hand and shoulder. No way he is operating at 100%. Perhaps he knows his ability to drive the deep ball is compromised to a degree in this game.

That said he had a 70 QBR in this one. Posted a higher QBR than Matt S in this game. Not the reason we lost.

We are moving on imo cuz we got shelled in 2018 and 2020. JG misses seasons like the SF Giants used to win championships; consistently and even years.

I can show you 2 or 3 other plays that were missed opportunities by Jimmy on the last 2 offensive possessions that weren't deep and/or outside, if you like?
i would like to see them. if you don't mind
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

Trey gonna RIFLE that ball in there when he's up.

Look at the safety at the top leaning toward the LOS. That is a TD to Deebo if Trey is standing in the pocket.

I really hate these. It was hard enough watching that loss in real time. But going through these gems is adding insult to injury for me. Nobody expects Trey to be a world beater from day 1, but I am looking forward to watching him make throws that Jimmy just can't, AND expecting him to learn from his mistakes rather than doing them over and over.
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

One suggestion he had a bum throw hand and shoulder. No way he is operating at 100%. Perhaps he knows his ability to drive the deep ball is compromised to a degree in this game.

That said he had a 70 QBR in this one. Posted a higher QBR than Matt S in this game. Not the reason we lost.

We are moving on imo cuz we got shelled in 2018 and 2020. JG misses seasons like the SF Giants used to win championships; consistently and even years.

And Lance will never have an injury ever nor miss any game time.

the butt hurt
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

Trey gonna RIFLE that ball in there when he's up.

Look at the safety at the top leaning toward the LOS. That is a TD to Deebo if Trey is standing in the pocket.

I really hate these. It was hard enough watching that loss in real time. But going through these gems is adding insult to injury for me. Nobody expects Trey to be a world beater from day 1, but I am looking forward to watching him make throws that Jimmy just can't, AND expecting him to learn from his mistakes rather than doing them over and over.

Sorry to open wounds. I was locked out of my account for a couple months and then had to learn how to post pics on this site. So I am just kind of trying to catch up atm.
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

One suggestion he had a bum throw hand and shoulder. No way he is operating at 100%. Perhaps he knows his ability to drive the deep ball is compromised to a degree in this game.

That said he had a 70 QBR in this one. Posted a higher QBR than Matt S in this game. Not the reason we lost.

We are moving on imo cuz we got shelled in 2018 and 2020. JG misses seasons like the SF Giants used to win championships; consistently and even years.

And Lance will never have an injury ever nor miss any game time.

I mean he's already had em and yeah he probably will. Law of averages says he'll be more durable than JG I guess

One gripe here is I consistently see no protection of our investment we make in players. In 2018 JG had the boundary vs KC. He was fresh off signing the $137m deal. Did anyone pull him aside and say look you are too valuable to the club to put yourself at risk? Obviously not, at least if they did it didn't get through. Then we see the usage of TL vs Arizona after we invested 3 firsts. Used the dude as a battering ram. Need to get smarter here and that comes from the top imo.

Never invested properly in the oline either
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
IMO, this is why we are moving on from Jimmy. He misses both a wide open Deebo down the sideline. Probably because he doesn't have the confidence to make that throw. We have seen time and time again if you reference back to the over throw to Juice earlier in the season and the over throw to Aiyuk in the playoffs. He also misses a wide open Aiyuk in the middle of the field on the same play. We have seen him make this type of throw many times so either he was blind or had a mental lapse on the play. This play occured on the second to last drive of the game. I have atleast three other plays where Jimmy missed open receivers on the last two drives of the NFCCG.

Sad thing is, these types of missed opportunities are also why we lost the super bowl. Jimmy is good enough to win games but he will never be good enough to put us over the top. The rams sold out to stop our running game and Jimmy was reluctant to advantage of it.

One suggestion he had a bum throw hand and shoulder. No way he is operating at 100%. Perhaps he knows his ability to drive the deep ball is compromised to a degree in this game.

That said he had a 70 QBR in this one. Posted a higher QBR than Matt S in this game. Not the reason we lost.

We are moving on imo cuz we got shelled in 2018 and 2020. JG misses seasons like the SF Giants used to win championships; consistently and even years.

I can show you 2 or 3 other plays that were missed opportunities by Jimmy on the last 2 offensive possessions that weren't deep and/or outside, if you like?
i would like to see them. if you don't mind


In the bottom pic, Kittle fakes a block and leaks out into the flat. He is wide open. Jimmy isn't even looking that way. He than pulls the trigger too late to the rb to the left and ?Hasty? Loses yards on the play. We all know what happens after that.
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