Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
He's had 3 games in a row with an int, which ties his career high. So he's due for a TO free game.

8 pass attempts?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Don't worry he's not gonna get it. Imagine thinking passing stats from the 80s are remotely comparable to the modern day. 🤪

Imagine claiming Jimmy was responsible for the Interception thrown by Trey.

Pretty sure Jimmy is capable of turning the ball over from the bench. HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY TURNOVER SINCE WEEK 13 EXCLUDING THE GAME HE DIDNT PLAY. But I guess that has to be said because delusion and lack of common sense is running rampant here.

Are the mods really letting this trolling happen? It's pretty clear what's happening here.

As long as a football player/coach is being discussed idgaf. But that's just me. Feel free to use the tattle feature so other mods see it.

I've seen people put on timeout just for continousky criticizing certian players or coaches

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Don't worry he's not gonna get it. Imagine thinking passing stats from the 80s are remotely comparable to the modern day. 🤪

Imagine claiming Jimmy was responsible for the Interception thrown by Trey.

Pretty sure Jimmy is capable of turning the ball over from the bench. HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY TURNOVER SINCE WEEK 13 EXCLUDING THE GAME HE DIDNT PLAY. But I guess that has to be said because delusion and lack of common sense is running rampant here.

Are the mods really letting this trolling happen? It's pretty clear what's happening here.

As long as a football player/coach is being discussed idgaf. But that's just me. Feel free to use the tattle feature so other mods see it.

I've seen people put on timeout just for continousky criticizing certian players or coaches

How about for continuously complementing an average player 🤷

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Don't worry he's not gonna get it. Imagine thinking passing stats from the 80s are remotely comparable to the modern day. 🤪

Imagine claiming Jimmy was responsible for the Interception thrown by Trey.

Pretty sure Jimmy is capable of turning the ball over from the bench. HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY TURNOVER SINCE WEEK 13 EXCLUDING THE GAME HE DIDNT PLAY. But I guess that has to be said because delusion and lack of common sense is running rampant here.

Are the mods really letting this trolling happen? It's pretty clear what's happening here.

As long as a football player/coach is being discussed idgaf. But that's just me. Feel free to use the tattle feature so other mods see it.

I've seen people put on timeout just for continousky criticizing certian players or coaches

How about for continuously complementing an average player 🤷

dude hes winning and a good qb

did he do something personally to you no need to trash him everyone knows he can and will be upgraded stop s**tting on him every chance you get

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You're proving my point. Dak's cap hit this yr was only $17M, they were able to use money elsewhere because of that. Next yr not so much. Stafford if your were looking at APY would have been $30M BUT because he got traded that's not true.

I agree the best number to use when looking at a contract overall is the GTD cash, looking at a players cap hit right now also matters...not 3 years ago or 3 years from now. taking a guys total contract and dividing it by the years is pointless.

The discussion has always been about Jimmy G's cap hit in 2021 and how that's affected our ability to fill out the roster.

It would be wrong/incorrect to say that Jimmy is the second highest paid player in the NFL then use his cap hit over APY or guarantee.I feel like posters know we're not saying that but they're just playing coy and pretending that's the argument.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Don't worry he's not gonna get it. Imagine thinking passing stats from the 80s are remotely comparable to the modern day. 🤪

Imagine claiming Jimmy was responsible for the Interception thrown by Trey.

Pretty sure Jimmy is capable of turning the ball over from the bench. HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY TURNOVER SINCE WEEK 13 EXCLUDING THE GAME HE DIDNT PLAY. But I guess that has to be said because delusion and lack of common sense is running rampant here.

Are the mods really letting this trolling happen? It's pretty clear what's happening here.

As long as a football player/coach is being discussed idgaf. But that's just me. Feel free to use the tattle feature so other mods see it.

I've seen people put on timeout just for continousky criticizing certian players or coaches

How about for continuously complementing an average player 🤷

dude hes winning and a good qb

did he do something personally to you no need to trash him everyone knows he can and will be upgraded stop s**tting on him every chance you get

For his salary he's not good. If he got paid 11 mil like tannehil this season great. He made Rodgers money and and he's not in the same universe as arod

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

???

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2021/09/15/highest-paid-nfl-players-2021/8323187002/

Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs; $45 million

Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million

Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $40 million

Deshaun Watson, Houston Texans: $39 million

Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, $35 million

Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers: $33.5 million

Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $33.5 million

Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings: $33 million

Carson Wentz, Indianapolis Colts: $32 million

Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons: $30 million

Not sure how many times I need to explain this and show their cap hit in 2021 for people to get it....You and I have had this convo how many times now?



I don't care about APY...teams restructure QB's salaries all the time and some don't even make it through their full contract so it's not the best way to judge a contract really for any player.

Your methodology is different than everyone elses.

No it is not...who gives a s**t about a players cap hit in 2018? It's 2021 man. Who cares about a guys cap hit in 2025, it's 2021 and you have NO CLUE what his cap hit will be by then because cap hits are written in pencil not pen.

Just abouy every link to Highest Paid Player thst comes up in Google search results use a different measure than cap hit.

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
For his salary he's not good. If he got paid 11 mil like tannehil this season great. He made Rodgers money and and he's not in the same universe as arod

i disagrew with the way NY looks at salary

the reason he is getting paid like he is is because we can cut him with a minimal penalty/caphit at anytime that isnt true of most QBs

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
???

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2021/09/15/highest-paid-nfl-players-2021/8323187002/

Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs; $45 million

Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million

Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $40 million

Deshaun Watson, Houston Texans: $39 million

Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, $35 million

Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers: $33.5 million

Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $33.5 million

Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings: $33 million

Carson Wentz, Indianapolis Colts: $32 million

Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons: $30 million

Not sure how many times I need to explain this and show their cap hit in 2021 for people to get it....You and I have had this convo how many times now?



I don't care about APY...teams restructure QB's salaries all the time and some don't even make it through their full contract so it's not the best way to judge a contract really for any player.

Your methodology is different than everyone elses.

No it is not...who gives a s**t about a players cap hit in 2018? It's 2021 man. Who cares about a guys cap hit in 2025, it's 2021 and you have NO CLUE what his cap hit will be by then because cap hits are written in pencil not pen.

Just abouy every link to Highest Paid Player thst comes up in Google search results use a different measure than cap hit.

Bro you just don't get it. We're not saying he's the second highest paid player. We're talking about his cap hit for this season in which his cap hit was second most. He's about middle of the pack in APY now. But in terms of the salary cap… no other player in the playoffs besides Arod has taken more of his teams cap space this season.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You're proving my point. Dak's cap hit this yr was only $17M, they were able to use money elsewhere because of that. Next yr not so much. Stafford if your were looking at APY would have been $30M BUT because he got traded that's not true.

I agree the best number to use when looking at a contract overall is the GTD cash, looking at a players cap hit right now also matters...not 3 years ago or 3 years from now. taking a guys total contract and dividing it by the years is pointless.

The discussion has always been about Jimmy G's cap hit in 2021 and how that's affected our ability to fill out the roster.

It would be wrong/incorrect to say that Jimmy is the second highest paid player in the NFL then use his cap hit over APY or guarantee.I feel like posters know we're not saying that but they're just playing coy and pretending that's the argument.

Oh it's obvious what they're doing and why.

Originally posted by thl408:
As long as a football player/coach is being discussed idgaf. But that's just me. Feel free to use the tattle feature so other mods see it.

Freaking thl that made me spit up water on my pants and now it looks like I pissed myself.

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Don't worry he's not gonna get it. Imagine thinking passing stats from the 80s are remotely comparable to the modern day. 🤪

Imagine claiming Jimmy was responsible for the Interception thrown by Trey.

Pretty sure Jimmy is capable of turning the ball over from the bench. HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY TURNOVER SINCE WEEK 13 EXCLUDING THE GAME HE DIDNT PLAY. But I guess that has to be said because delusion and lack of common sense is running rampant here.

Why do you blame Jimmy for Jamycal Hasty's fumble on the opening Kickoff against the Falcons in week 15?

Some of us watch the games

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
???

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2021/09/15/highest-paid-nfl-players-2021/8323187002/

Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs; $45 million

Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills: $43 million

Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys: $40 million

Deshaun Watson, Houston Texans: $39 million

Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, $35 million

Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers: $33.5 million

Jared Goff, Detroit Lions: $33.5 million

Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings: $33 million

Carson Wentz, Indianapolis Colts: $32 million

Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons: $30 million

Not sure how many times I need to explain this and show their cap hit in 2021 for people to get it....You and I have had this convo how many times now?



I don't care about APY...teams restructure QB's salaries all the time and some don't even make it through their full contract so it's not the best way to judge a contract really for any player.

Your methodology is different than everyone elses.

No it is not...who gives a s**t about a players cap hit in 2018? It's 2021 man. Who cares about a guys cap hit in 2025, it's 2021 and you have NO CLUE what his cap hit will be by then because cap hits are written in pencil not pen.

Just abouy every link to Highest Paid Player thst comes up in Google search results use a different measure than cap hit.

Bro you just don't get it. We're not saying he's the second highest paid player. We're talking about his cap hit for this season in which his cap hit was second most. He's about middle of the pack in APY now. But in terms of the salary cap… no other player in the playoffs besides Arod has taken more of his teams cap space this season.

he gets paid like that because if hes cut it only costs the team less than 2 mill in cap space

how many QB in NFL have a deal like that?

Originally posted by ritz126:
i disagrew with the way NY looks at salary

the reason he is getting paid like he is is because we can cut him with a minimal penalty/caphit at anytime that isnt true of most QBs

What is wrong with looking at a players cap hit during the current season? That's the only thing that should matter because future years can be manipulated to change a cap hit…so what if they can cut him with little DM, his cap hit was still the 5th highest during a Covid strapped cap yr.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Honestly at this point everyone is beating the dead horse...pundits and analysis as well. Yes Jimmy is probably the worst remaining QB in the playoffs. Yes he's inconsistent. BUT Jimmy with this team and HC make SF a hard out every week. The unit as a whole makes this team competitive every damn week. Jimmy is part of that.

This was his year and that was never gonna change unless he got hurt. This was also the off season to go in a different direction at QB past 2021. That was my point for the past year. Could I be a little blunt in regard to what Jimmy is in my eyes, sure. Didn't mean I hated the dude or think he's the worst QB in the league.

My debate for the most part, was how much he was getting paid during a covid cap season. He's currently the 2nd highest paid player in the playoffs (only behind Rogers) let's keep s**t real here and understand that's stupid. Is what it is now, Kyle and Co wanted to go this route and for the most part it's paid off. We will see what Lance is BUT I f**king hope the Jimmy can do no wrong and he's the QB so you support him crowd, apply that SAME energy to Lance....at least for the 1st 4 years of his career.

That's a ShanaLynch and Paraag moneyball issue.

Even then, he's simply paid within the realm of a starting playoff QB today.

As to if we're getting our money's worth? So far so good...Superbowl and into the Divisional round of the playoffs. But that's up to Kyle and the FO and they've decided to go cheaper.

You should see how many "overpaid" QB's didn't even make these playoffs or are already bounced.

There's not Moneyball issue, if anything it's the opposite of money ball. And I'm not blaming Jimmy for getting as much money as possible.

Even then he's not worth what he's getting paid in 2021. I completely disagree SF got their our money's worth. SF basically ate $63.4M in cap space because of two lost seasons.

I'm looking at QBs that are CURRENTLY in the playoffs and this is their cap hits....

Rogers $27.6M
Jimmy $26.4M
Stafford $20M
Tannehill $11.1M
Brady $10.5M
Allen $10.2M
Burrow $8.2M
Mahomes $7.4M

The highest paid QB to win a SB since 2010 was Brady at $25M last yr, he ate up 12.4% of his teams total cap space. The highest to win since the cap was Steve Young in 1994 at 13.1% (first year NFL had a cap).

It's moneyball because they quickly tried to pay him before his market went up even more (there was a run on QB pay then) and consequently added annual rip cords and had the cap space to pay $40M up front of that.

All that before ever really seeing how he'd fare once he had to play within Kyle's actual system and not hero, off script ball when he arrived.

I totally get your point as to value and ROI. I'm big on that too esp. at the most expensive positions and with this FO and where they choose to spend their cap space.