Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
NC.. LFG !!!

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You do when you're literally talking about his performance in the playoffs.

The QB rating he posted was accurate and how Jimmy's played outside of the playoffs should not be considered when speaking directly about his play in the postseason.

I don't know why that's so complicated.

I think Tony Romo was a very good QB but his performance in the playoffs is completely different from his career outside those win or go home games.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
So in the most important possible games he's nowhere to be found and In reality a detriment to the teams success. He's been responsible for every single turnover since week 13. Every single one

no one is arguing hes elite but by passer rating he was what top 7 or 8 in 2nd half of season

he has won a lot of games here

i think its just extremely ungrateful to say hes a horrible QB and we are winning in spite of him despite the fact that in his 2 healthy seasons here he has made 2 playoff runs

I have a question for you based on Lance's play against houston is he better than Jimmy g right now?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
People talk as if beathard and mullens had any business starting ANY football games. U wanna compare look at what Matt Ryan did under kyle. He's the only other legit starter u can compare jimmy to. This whole they lose without jimmy is f**king bogus. Everyone loses with their 3rd string qb!!!! Oh I forgot about f**king Matt schaub and rg3.

It seems pretty straightforward. Jimmy is the only QB who has a winning record with the 49ers under Shanahan.

Ya sure if you count mullens and beathard as starting qb material. Pretty sure the majority of starting caliber qbs would have a winning record with this team.

Why wouldn't you count them as QBs?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You do when you're literally talking about his performance in the playoffs.

The QB rating he posted was accurate and how Jimmy's played outside of the playoffs should not be considered when speaking directly about his play in the postseason.

I don't know why that's so complicated.

I think Tony Romo was a very good QB but his performance in the playoffs is completely different from his career outside those win or go home games.

LOL if you make judgements strictly based on postseason stats then I guess Foles with his 99 postseason rating is better than Marino with his 77 rating right? Oh and don't forget Tebow with his 90 postseason rating what a elite NFL qb he was

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

People talk as if beathard and mullens had any business starting ANY football games. U wanna compare look at what Matt Ryan did under kyle. He's the only other legit starter u can compare jimmy to. This whole they lose without jimmy is f**king bogus. Everyone loses with their 3rd string qb!!!! Oh I forgot about f**king Matt schaub and rg3.

It seems pretty straightforward. Jimmy is the only QB who has a winning record with the 49ers under Shanahan.

Ya sure if you count mullens and beathard as starting qb material. Pretty sure the majority of starting caliber qbs would have a winning record with this team.

Why wouldn't you count them as QBs?

Because I'd bet neither one of them ever wins another game as a starting qb

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You do when you're literally talking about his performance in the playoffs.

The QB rating he posted was accurate and how Jimmy's played outside of the playoffs should not be considered when speaking directly about his play in the postseason.

I don't know why that's so complicated.

I think Tony Romo was a very good QB but his performance in the playoffs is completely different from his career outside those win or go home games.

LOL if you make judgements strictly based on postseason stats then I guess Foles with his 99 postseason rating is better than Marino with his 77 rating right? Oh and don't forget Tebow with his 90 postseason rating what a elite NFL qb he was

I'm sorry you take offense to Jimmy's passer rating in the playoffs when discussing Jimmy's performance in said playoffs.

But I never made a statement regarding Jimmy so you're clearly confused.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
People talk as if beathard and mullens had any business starting ANY football games. U wanna compare look at what Matt Ryan did under kyle. He's the only other legit starter u can compare jimmy to. This whole they lose without jimmy is f**king bogus. Everyone loses with their 3rd string qb!!!! Oh I forgot about f**king Matt schaub and rg3.

It seems pretty straightforward. Jimmy is the only QB who has a winning record with the 49ers under Shanahan.

Ya sure if you count mullens and beathard as starting qb material. Pretty sure the majority of starting caliber qbs would have a winning record with this team.

Why wouldn't you count them as QBs?

Because I'd bet neither one of them ever wins another game as a starting qb

That's irrelevant, those were Shanahan's handpicked QBs, as was Hoyer.

Like it or not, JG is the only qb Shanahan has shown he can with with ad a head coach.

I am confident he can win with Trey too but he has to show it.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You do when you're literally talking about his performance in the playoffs.

The QB rating he posted was accurate and how Jimmy's played outside of the playoffs should not be considered when speaking directly about his play in the postseason.

I don't know why that's so complicated.

I think Tony Romo was a very good QB but his performance in the playoffs is completely different from his career outside those win or go home games.

LOL if you make judgements strictly based on postseason stats then I guess Foles with his 99 postseason rating is better than Marino with his 77 rating right? Oh and don't forget Tebow with his 90 postseason rating what a elite NFL qb he was

I'm sorry you take offense to Jimmy's passer rating in the playoffs when discussing Jimmy's performance in said playoffs.

But I never made a statement regarding Jimmy so you're clearly confused.

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

People talk as if beathard and mullens had any business starting ANY football games. U wanna compare look at what Matt Ryan did under kyle. He's the only other legit starter u can compare jimmy to. This whole they lose without jimmy is f**king bogus. Everyone loses with their 3rd string qb!!!! Oh I forgot about f**king Matt schaub and rg3.

It seems pretty straightforward. Jimmy is the only QB who has a winning record with the 49ers under Shanahan.

Ya sure if you count mullens and beathard as starting qb material. Pretty sure the majority of starting caliber qbs would have a winning record with this team.

Why wouldn't you count them as QBs?

Because I'd bet neither one of them ever wins another game as a starting qb

That's irrelevant, those were Shanahan's handpicked QBs, as was Hoyer.

Like it or not, JG is the only qb Shanahan has shown he can with with ad a head coach.

I am confident he can win with Trey too but he has to show it.

Come on now every qb on every roster is hand picked. That doesn't mean you think you r gonna win games with the guy. Clearly cj and mullens don't have the talent to win in the nfl or even stay on a roster. Yet both at least won games under kyle which is an accomplishment in itself. Obviously there is a big drop off between jg and mullens. Come on now

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by ubaisore:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by ubaisore:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
The denial in here is out of control.

its been like that for some time.People think jimmy makes amazing throws..and shoots fire from his arse
He is average at best

Or they think every throw is a pick.... and falls down on every play

That is a bit extreme but the lengths the otherside go to defend his poor play is just as laughable. Someone brings up Jimmy throwing an int into the chest of the defender and someone brings up that Aaron Rodgers threw a pick 10 weeks ago so Jimmy's bad play is justified.

It's hilarious man. I'm telling you it's just a tiny bubble of jimmy fans ignoring the fact that at his best he's average and at his worst will cost us at the dumbest damn time

And the people that hate him think the game is always just on him and he cant make any mistakes/any play that doesnt turn out was his fault. No QB is perfect and EVERY qb needs other guys to help. I am one that believes there is a middle ground between the obvious people that are extreme in their view

I see myself as neutral. I think Jimmy is really solid most of the time but he has a tendency to be careless with the football. Trying to justify his bad play cause Rodgers or Mahomes or Prescott have a bad play here and there is a crazy argument. Those guys put up 37 or more passing TD's with 12 or less int's. He is not asked to play hero ball here. He is asked to be efficient and don't turn it over. There is a big difference roles between Jimmy and the top QB's in this league.

Spot on.

This is where fans fall short so often and get so bent out of shape. It's a conservative complimentary passing game in a run-centric offensive philosophy.

So every single QB mistake (which is normal) has a massive spotlight on it as it could have great effects on the outcome of the game. On the flip side, you have fans who think we should be a passing-centric offense but we're not because of Jimmy so they get frustrated with air yards, deep shots and outside the hashes passes.

But it's highly unlikely this philosophy changes with Trey but we'll see... could be even 'more' rush-centric. But he can certainly add more explosives in both areas potentially. And if he grows into running the same efficient passing game on script on top of that, game on! Can't wait to watch him develop and evolve with Kyle.

I don't think you'll see a change in philosophy as we will continue to impose our will in the run game. However, why would we not utilize Trey's strengths in the passing game which is deep and outside the numbers? Kyle utilizes Jimmy's strengths to perfection. I'd argue that no one is better in this league at throwing over the middle than Jimmy. Either way we will see deeper completions with Trey as Jimmy tends to favor the low read and Trey (small sample size) tends to favor the high read on those high/low concepts.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You do when you're literally talking about his performance in the playoffs.

The QB rating he posted was accurate and how Jimmy's played outside of the playoffs should not be considered when speaking directly about his play in the postseason.

I don't know why that's so complicated.

I think Tony Romo was a very good QB but his performance in the playoffs is completely different from his career outside those win or go home games.

LOL if you make judgements strictly based on postseason stats then I guess Foles with his 99 postseason rating is better than Marino with his 77 rating right? Oh and don't forget Tebow with his 90 postseason rating what a elite NFL qb he was

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
People talk as if beathard and mullens had any business starting ANY football games. U wanna compare look at what Matt Ryan did under kyle. He's the only other legit starter u can compare jimmy to. This whole they lose without jimmy is f**king bogus. Everyone loses with their 3rd string qb!!!! Oh I forgot about f**king Matt schaub and rg3.

It seems pretty straightforward. Jimmy is the only QB who has a winning record with the 49ers under Shanahan.

Ya sure if you count mullens and beathard as starting qb material. Pretty sure the majority of starting caliber qbs would have a winning record with this team.

Why wouldn't you count them as QBs?

Because I'd bet neither one of them ever wins another game as a starting qb

That's irrelevant, those were Shanahan's handpicked QBs, as was Hoyer.

Like it or not, JG is the only qb Shanahan has shown he can with with ad a head coach.

I am confident he can win with Trey too but he has to show it.

Come on now every qb on every roster is hand picked. That doesn't mean you think you r gonna win games with the guy. Clearly cj and mullens don't have the talent to win in the nfl or even stay on a roster. Yet both at least won games under kyle which is an accomplishment in itself. Obviously there is a big drop off between jg and mullens. Come on now

Why do you ignore Hoyer and why do you think any of what you posted here is relevant?

Shanahan had a wining record in SF with Jimmy and a losing record with all other QBs. It is what it is whether you like it or not.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
People talk as if beathard and mullens had any business starting ANY football games. U wanna compare look at what Matt Ryan did under kyle. He's the only other legit starter u can compare jimmy to. This whole they lose without jimmy is f**king bogus. Everyone loses with their 3rd string qb!!!! Oh I forgot about f**king Matt schaub and rg3.

It seems pretty straightforward. Jimmy is the only QB who has a winning record with the 49ers under Shanahan.

Ya sure if you count mullens and beathard as starting qb material. Pretty sure the majority of starting caliber qbs would have a winning record with this team.

Why wouldn't you count them as QBs?

Because I'd bet neither one of them ever wins another game as a starting qb

That's irrelevant, those were Shanahan's handpicked QBs, as was Hoyer.

Like it or not, JG is the only qb Shanahan has shown he can with with ad a head coach.

I am confident he can win with Trey too but he has to show it.

Come on now every qb on every roster is hand picked. That doesn't mean you think you r gonna win games with the guy. Clearly cj and mullens don't have the talent to win in the nfl or even stay on a roster. Yet both at least won games under kyle which is an accomplishment in itself. Obviously there is a big drop off between jg and mullens. Come on now

Why do you ignore Hoyer and why do you think any of what you posted here is relevant?

Shanahan had a wining record in SF with Jimmy and a losing record with all other QBs. It is what it is whether you like it or not.