Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Jcool:
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Lol I know you Montana fanboys are still around and that's cool and great. The greatest in 49er history. Just wont let you rewrite history to disparage the guy that replaced him. That's all.

If he is great, let his accomplishments stand on its own two legs without fairytales.

Dude
truth is young sucked in playoff games.

you have zero clue if your gonna act like he didn't.

Young choked in playoff games. Sucked being a 9er fan watching us get bounced because of his s**t play in the playoffs.

I think with Holmgren and GB (our real nemesis), he was a better coach than either Seifert and Mooch and it showed. Young certainly made a lot of mistakes, but we saw how special he could be with Shanahan as his OC in 94. Montana had a genius like Walsh calling his plays for most of his 49er career. In 95, Young had Marc Trestman and Mooch was okay, but always took his foot off the gas when games were in hand or was too scared. Tampa Bay in 2002, letting the clock run out before the half and Garcia and Owens were livid on the field, for example. Point is, coaching matters.

Sorry, this is the JG thread, won't post anymore on this here as its out of context.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Probably one of Jimmy's worst games yet we still won. Gotta step up next week. Trey would have made that throw he got intercepted at. I know his thumb is still hurting but if he's not comfortable asking the throw live another down.

Trey would not have moved teh ball as well as we did and i think we have a lot more sacks with Trey

It maybe a small sample size for Trey but he has actually been sacked at a lesser rate than Jimmy during the season. I also doubt Trey misses Aiyuk and Sherfield on those throws. Jimmy is still the starter because of his leadership and Shanahan trusts him during two minute drills. Jimmy is pretty clutch in those situations.

Jimmy is the starter because he's a better QB right now. Who knows if Trey would've made those throws. You have HOFers like Big Ben missing similar throws, Mahomes before he got hot yesterday missed some easy throws. It happens. More often than not.

So you think Jimmy is better than Trey at throwing on the run and throwing outside the numbers? Jimmy is the starter because of the reasons I mentioned. It has more to do with leadership and trust than anything else.

I don't think. I know as a fact Jimmy right now is better than a 21 year old highly inexperienced rookie. It's common sense.

Why is Jimmy better right now? Its because of his leadership and his experience in Shanahan's offense. Shanahan does not have that same trust with Trey yet.

Meh... I'm not explaining common sense. An 8 year vet being better than a guy with 10 quarters is obvious.

Man this place is insufferable after a win.

Thats because you aren't comprehending what I am saying and instead letting your emotions get the best of you. He is an 8 year vet who has more experience in Shanahan's offense and has the leadership skills to earn the trust of his coaches and teammates. That does not mean Trey isn't more physically gifted or is incapable of making throws that Jimmy seems to struggle with. Jeez.

You said "Jimmy is still the starter because of his leadership and Shanahan trusts him during two minute drills". That's right but alsowrong. Jimmy is the better QB right now that is why he's the starter. Experience included. Trey has far more intangibles, no doubt, but he's a rookie. Everyone was slobbering all over Jimmy last week and suddenly he's only playing because he's more experienced. No...

Actually, I have had my concerns about Jimmy since the Colts game. I do give him credit where credit is due. I consider myself neutral when it comes to Jimmy. I will praise and critique him as I see fit.

This whole conversation started when I posted saying Trey's sack rate is lower than Jimmy's. Therefor its pure speculation saying Trey would have taken multiple sacks against the cowboys. Trey doesn't have the release that Jimmy does but has shown the ability to move in the pocket and escape the pocket to buy time. Trey is also better at throwing outside the numbers and throwing on the run. Which coincidentally were Jimmy's worst throws against the cowboys. Those bad throws aren't just every now and then. He has missed wide open receivers outside a lot this season and in his career.

I am not arguing about who should be the starter. I too believe Jimmy gives us the best chance to win this season. That is because of his leadership and experience in this offense.

Originally posted by DASeiler49:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Jcool:
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Lol I know you Montana fanboys are still around and that's cool and great. The greatest in 49er history. Just wont let you rewrite history to disparage the guy that replaced him. That's all.

If he is great, let his accomplishments stand on its own two legs without fairytales.

Dude
truth is young sucked in playoff games.

you have zero clue if your gonna act like he didn't.

Young choked in playoff games. Sucked being a 9er fan watching us get bounced because of his s**t play in the playoffs.

I think with Holmgren and GB (our real nemesis), he was a better coach than either Seifert and Mooch and it showed. Young certainly made a lot of mistakes, but we saw how special he could be with Shanahan as his OC in 94. Montana had a genius like Walsh calling his plays for most of his 49er career. In 95, Young had Marc Trestman and Mooch was okay, but always took his foot off the gas when games were in hand or was too scared. Tampa Bay in 2002, letting the clock run out before the half and Garcia and Owens were livid on the field, for example. Point is, coaching matters.

I kind of wish we went from Bill Walsh to Holmgren. No disrespect to Siefert, but I think that would of given us more Superbowls and would of stopped the Packers from taking over the late 90s.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heed49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heed49er:
Why is Chris Simms allowed to talk about NFL football? Dude's biggest achievement is playing with a lacerated spleen.

And yet here you are Heed49er allowed to talk football. Wonder how many NFL games you have started. I'm betting Chris has you beat there.

When my opinions start appearing all over your YouTube or you start getting notifications on your phone, I'll know I've gone too far.

https://www.nfl.com/players/chris-simms/stats/career <- this guy shouldn't have his face on a screen criticizing anyone's play.

I see your point man the one guy I can never take serious is Orlavsky all I can see in my mind as he's talking is him running out of his own endzone. I guess they're allowed to talk football but we're allowed not to take them seriously

Lol. Do you guys even understand how good you have to be to make it to the NFL? Not only talent wise but knowing your position very well, especially when you aren't uber talented? Who cares if they didn't have good careers, that means nothing when talking/teaching football. Kyle couldn't make it as a WR in the nfl, I can't believe these idiot gave him a head coaching job!

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heed49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heed49er:
Why is Chris Simms allowed to talk about NFL football? Dude's biggest achievement is playing with a lacerated spleen.

And yet here you are Heed49er allowed to talk football. Wonder how many NFL games you have started. I'm betting Chris has you beat there.

When my opinions start appearing all over your YouTube or you start getting notifications on your phone, I'll know I've gone too far.

https://www.nfl.com/players/chris-simms/stats/career <- this guy shouldn't have his face on a screen criticizing anyone's play.

I see your point man the one guy I can never take serious is Orlavsky all I can see in my mind as he's talking is him running out of his own endzone. I guess they're allowed to talk football but we're allowed not to take them seriously

Lol. Do you guys even understand how good you have to be to make it to the NFL? Not only talent wise but knowing your position very well, especially when you aren't uber talented? Who cares if they didn't have good careers, that means nothing when talking/teaching football. Kyle couldn't make it as a WR in the nfl, I can't believe these idiot gave him a head coaching job!

Relax man Seifert and Montana weren't even good pundits. Even if you understand the game that doesn't mean you're a great pundit it's two different jobs. This is what makes Madden so impressive he was a HOF coach and an HOF broadcaster.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Dak Prescott graded a "D" so JimmyG is "B-" or "C+" with the main mistakes

1. Failing to hit a wide open Aiyuk on a perfect play design
2. Interception when he should have thrown it away
3. Not allowing Trent Williams to get set

To me, #1 is the worst because he missed on that exact play, opposite side to Juice, against the Titans.

I'm wondering on that Aiyuk play if he was meant to go up field after the cut. Not sure if KS explained if that was was actually on JG or not.

I'll have to see the film to know for sure, but pretty sure it's on Jimmy. Jimmy said so in his presser. Hard to tell if it was a blaze route or post-corner.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Dak Prescott graded a "D" so JimmyG is "B-" or "C+" with the main mistakes

1. Failing to hit a wide open Aiyuk on a perfect play design
2. Interception when he should have thrown it away
3. Not allowing Trent Williams to get set

To me, #1 is the worst because he missed on that exact play, opposite side to Juice, against the Titans.

I'm wondering on that Aiyuk play if he was meant to go up field after the cut. Not sure if KS explained if that was was actually on JG or not.

I'll have to see the film to know for sure, but pretty sure it's on Jimmy. Jimmy said so in his presser. Hard to tell if it was a blaze route or post-corner.

Please review. Romo showed he flattened his route there on the replay and there has been some natural miscommunication as both Jimmy and Aiyuk become more familiar with each other. That 38 yard play was epic!

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heed49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heed49er:
Why is Chris Simms allowed to talk about NFL football? Dude's biggest achievement is playing with a lacerated spleen.

And yet here you are Heed49er allowed to talk football. Wonder how many NFL games you have started. I'm betting Chris has you beat there.

When my opinions start appearing all over your YouTube or you start getting notifications on your phone, I'll know I've gone too far.

https://www.nfl.com/players/chris-simms/stats/career <- this guy shouldn't have his face on a screen criticizing anyone's play.

I see your point man the one guy I can never take serious is Orlavsky all I can see in my mind as he's talking is him running out of his own endzone. I guess they're allowed to talk football but we're allowed not to take them seriously

Lol. Do you guys even understand how good you have to be to make it to the NFL? Not only talent wise but knowing your position very well, especially when you aren't uber talented? Who cares if they didn't have good careers, that means nothing when talking/teaching football. Kyle couldn't make it as a WR in the nfl, I can't believe these idiot gave him a head coaching job!

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Dak Prescott graded a "D" so JimmyG is "B-" or "C+" with the main mistakes

1. Failing to hit a wide open Aiyuk on a perfect play design
2. Interception when he should have thrown it away
3. Not allowing Trent Williams to get set

To me, #1 is the worst because he missed on that exact play, opposite side to Juice, against the Titans.

I'm wondering on that Aiyuk play if he was meant to go up field after the cut. Not sure if KS explained if that was was actually on JG or not.

Romo said Aiyuk flatten his route out of the break. Had he stayed on the same angle it might have been catchable. (Romo)

Originally posted by crabman82:
Hes not perfect. But hes the best we got right now. Lets ride it out and see where it takes us. Stop stressing and enjoy the ride. Theres literally nothing to worry about. If he does great, thats awesome. If he sucks balls we already know what the counter move will be for next season.

Yeah that ´s why I can´t understand people s**tting on him every single time even last week. He´s gone at the end of the season.
Can ´t we just be behind him for just a few more weeks? He made a bad throw on the int and another one on the Aiyuk miss, we all know.
He also helps us a ton with his quick release against the Cowboys D-Line. And he plays with an injured thumb.
So far the niners are doing pretty well. They can still win the Superbowl and Trey Lance is waiting on the sidelines.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heed49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heed49er:
Why is Chris Simms allowed to talk about NFL football? Dude's biggest achievement is playing with a lacerated spleen.

And yet here you are Heed49er allowed to talk football. Wonder how many NFL games you have started. I'm betting Chris has you beat there.

When my opinions start appearing all over your YouTube or you start getting notifications on your phone, I'll know I've gone too far.

https://www.nfl.com/players/chris-simms/stats/career <- this guy shouldn't have his face on a screen criticizing anyone's play.

I see your point man the one guy I can never take serious is Orlavsky all I can see in my mind as he's talking is him running out of his own endzone. I guess they're allowed to talk football but we're allowed not to take them seriously

Lol. Do you guys even understand how good you have to be to make it to the NFL? Not only talent wise but knowing your position very well, especially when you aren't uber talented? Who cares if they didn't have good careers, that means nothing when talking/teaching football. Kyle couldn't make it as a WR in the nfl, I can't believe these idiot gave him a head coaching job!

Good one troll.

Originally posted by dj43:
Romo said Aiyuk flatten his route out of the break. Had he stayed on the same angle it might have been catchable. (Romo)

They messed up a few weeks ago on 4th down too.

When he's that open. just float it up. No matter where it lands the receiver has time to get under it.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by dj43:
Romo said Aiyuk flatten his route out of the break. Had he stayed on the same angle it might have been catchable. (Romo)

They messed up a few weeks ago on 4th down too.

When he's that open. just float it up. No matter where it lands the receiver has time to get under it.

Jimmy can make tight timing throws in heavy traffic all day. Give him a layup with no defender in sight and that ball sails every single time. LOL. #Psychological

I literally had to argue with a Texas based niner fan because they would prefer Dak to Jimmy ( 😂) and couldn't just enjoy the moment. I'd take Jimmy's play and price tag over Dak's play and price tag any day.

Originally posted by Youngone:
I literally had to argue with a Texas based niner fan because they would prefer Dak to Jimmy ( 😂) and couldn't just enjoy the moment. I'd take Jimmy's play and price tag over Dak's play and price tag any day.

Idk. I think I would rather have 37 tds and 10 ints vs 20 tds and 12 ints any season. Before anyone starts harping about we are a run first team, Dallas ran the ball 473 times this season and the 49ers ran it 499 times.