Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Outside of some miniscule chance the team could successfully trade for Watson Jimmy will be QB1 next season, as he should be.

If Jimmy is given an O-line that could protect better than the turnstile we've had recently I would bet he'd be top 10 statistically.

Its no coincidence that good QB play usually coincides with above average pass protection, and we all know our O-line has been atrocious at PP for a while now.

Originally posted by bewdynewkJH38:
Well it's good that we're finally getting some common ground on the QB solution. So far we have narrowed it down to......
1. Keep Jimmy and train up Rosen
2. Keep Jimmy and trade back for a project such as Trask or Jones or Lance or Mond or Ridder
3. Keep Jimmy and trade up for Zach Wilson
4. Keep Jimmy and trade up for Justin Fields
5. Get rid of Jimmy and trade up for either of those 2
6. Get rid of Jimmy and do a trade for Sam Darnold
7. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Deshaun Watson
8. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Matthew Stafford
9. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Carson Wentz
10. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Dak Prescott

I've probably missed a few but I'm glad we've got that sorted

IDK about Prescott,..wanna see how he's doing with his injury,...and I'll pass on Wentz. Training Rosen without any other moves wouldn't be enough.

Everything else is fair game. Not a bad list when your only legit QB has been figured out by the league.

Originally posted by jvangeystel:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by rathman4481:
Keep jimmy and draft his replacement

If drafting a replacement was easy - teams wouldn't go years to decades without a top QB

Just because it ain't easy doesn't mean we shouldn't try. Jimmy is a solid work within the system guy. He will operate an offense that is built up with talent. I don't think he has the ability to perform with less. To me this means he needs to adjust his pay accordingly but, it doesn't mean he can't win a Superbowl. Personally I think Brady is one of the most average qbs out there. Hes just consistent and makes sure he's got a solid team around him.

I say if you got a qb you think you can develop fall to us in round 1, pull the trigger. Then focus on OL. If not wait till next year but we need better talent along our interior. One Jimmy is better with more time. Two our offense is so run game heavy that OL is a no brainer. Three, if we do get a young qb you have good protection for him if you have to throw em to the wolves early. Best to learn the game with solid protection.

Keep Jimmy and draft a replacement for him - That is fair to say, ignore my previous comment. I guess the question is what round do you draft a QB in. I personally don't think we need to draft one in the first round because I don't think any will be available in the first round when we pick that would be worth it.

I disagree that he can't perform if he doesn't have a great supporting cast around him. He did it in 2017, in 2019 before Sanders came on board - it just isn't pretty but we are still winning. Regardless if we have a good defense or not, the other QBs we had playing either before him or when he is injured can't buy a win if they wanted to.

I just wish he would stay healthy for a longer period of time (not really his fault but still) because I think that is when we can judge his body of work. 2018 was an ACL tear so we didn't get any sample size to prove he can or cant play, but his play wasn't anything to run home about in those first few games. 2019 I thought was great. He made mistakes here and here, especially in the first half of the season, but he was still leading us to wins and doing a lot of other things nicely (3rd down conversions, 2-1 TD ratio, high completion percentage etc). 2020 - we had like 4 players not miss a game all season, so eff the 2020 season for all of our players.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by bewdynewkJH38:

Well it's good that we're finally getting some common ground on the QB solution. So far we have narrowed it down to......
1. Keep Jimmy and train up Rosen
2. Keep Jimmy and trade back for a project such as Trask or Jones or Lance or Mond or Ridder
3. Keep Jimmy and trade up for Zach Wilson
4. Keep Jimmy and trade up for Justin Fields
5. Get rid of Jimmy and trade up for either of those 2
6. Get rid of Jimmy and do a trade for Sam Darnold
7. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Deshaun Watson
8. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Matthew Stafford
9. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Carson Wentz
10. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Dak Prescott

I've probably missed a few but I'm glad we've got that sorted

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha You sum it up brilliantly. Beaty Newk

He forgot trade for Tua which I'd say is the worst possible option

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Keep jimmy and draft his replacement

If drafting a replacement was easy - teams wouldn't go years to decades without a top QB

If drafting a replacement was unreasonable, 4 teams wouldn'tve spent 1st round picks on trying to do so last year.

How many young QBs are still in the playoffs this year? Josh Allen, Goff, Mayfield, Lamar, Mahomes...you can recheck the math, but that's 5 out of 8 of them drafted the last 5 years as replacements!!

The other 3 out of 8? Well they're all 1st ballot Hall of Famers (Tom Brady, Rodgers, and Brees).

Tommy is the only one not drafted in the 1st 2 rounds.

So the argument that sitting around being complacent with an arm/talent that doesn't at all measure up, given the 8 teams we'll see battling it out for an NFL Championship next week, just doesn't hit home.

Originally posted by bewdynewkJH38:
Well it's good that we're finally getting some common ground on the QB solution. So far we have narrowed it down to......
1. Keep Jimmy and train up Rosen
2. Keep Jimmy and trade back for a project such as Trask or Jones or Lance or Mond or Ridder
3. Keep Jimmy and trade up for Zach Wilson
4. Keep Jimmy and trade up for Justin Fields
5. Get rid of Jimmy and trade up for either of those 2
6. Get rid of Jimmy and do a trade for Sam Darnold
7. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Deshaun Watson
8. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Matthew Stafford
9. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Carson Wentz
10. Get rid of Jimmy and trade for Dak Prescott

I've probably missed a few but I'm glad we've got that sorted

These are the only realistic options that could possibly benefit the team.

NOTE: anything that involves getting rid of JG means we delay a chance for the SB by one more season because that's how long it takes Kyle to acclimate a QB to his complicated system.

1. Rosen is what he is.
6. Darnold is possible but is there any proof he's better than JG?
8. Stafford isn't a winner. I'd take Alex Smith over Stafford since Kyle relies more on reading defenses pre-snap than he does on the deep ball.
9. Wentz can't even see the field so what makes us think he will apply Kyle's offense?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Keep jimmy and draft his replacement

If drafting a replacement was easy - teams wouldn't go years to decades without a top QB

If peeing your pants is cool... consider me Miles Davis.

Truth Nuke. Also, Heiniken can do more than what Jimmy does.

Originally posted by TrumpBoner:
Truth Nuke. Also, Heiniken can do more than what Jimmy does.

Assuming the salary cap will be $175 million next season, Jimmy Garoppolo will take up 15.1 percent of it for the 49ers. Way too high. Andy Dalton can do what he does.

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) January 11, 2021

Except Cohn forgot that Dalton can't do what JG does, which is win.

Originally posted by tankle104:
If drafting a replacement was easy - teams wouldn't go years to decades without a top QB

No it isn't easy. It never is since even the best prospect can be a bust or just average. Teams need to be lucky when trying to replace or find a QB. They have to be in the right position in the draft or at least be able to move up. It has to be a good year for QBs when they happen to need one. Sometimes they might have bigger needs and can'r afford to pass on a blue chip edge rusher. Maybe they want to build the O line before drafting a high profile QB so he doesn't get beat up. Sometimes they just whiff.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Stafford isn't a winner. I'd take Alex Smith over Stafford since Kyle relies more on reading defenses pre-snap than he does on the deep ball.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Stafford isn't a winner. I'd take Alex Smith over Stafford since Kyle relies more on reading defenses pre-snap than he does on the deep ball.

I never liked the term 'he's a winner' when talking about a guy in a team sport. I just don't like putting wins and losses over a career on one player. There are some games when an individual might do something really bad or really great but over an entire career players shouldn't be labeled winners or losers. In my book, if they made the NFL or any professional league they're already winners. Now if a guy is a scum bag and does all kinds of bad stuff then that's different.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Stafford isn't a winner. I'd take Alex Smith over Stafford since Kyle relies more on reading defenses pre-snap than he does on the deep ball.

I never liked the term 'he's a winner' when talking about a guy in a team sport. I just don't like putting wins and losses over a career on one player. There are some games when an individual might do something really bad or really great but over an entire career players shouldn't be labeled winners or losers. In my book, if they made the NFL or any professional league they're already winners. Now if a guy is a scum bag and does all kinds of bad stuff then that's different.

Wins and losses are a team stat.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Stafford isn't a winner. I'd take Alex Smith over Stafford since Kyle relies more on reading defenses pre-snap than he does on the deep ball.

I wouldn't have responded in quite the same way, but I agree with the sentiment: Stafford would be a huge upgrade at the QB position. Smith would not be.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

49ers had the #2 rushing attack and he STILL passes for 3,900 yards. But whatever keep hating I'll have a big smile on my face when Jimmy G is under center for the 9ers next season.

I'm a jimmy fan, but will you be a 49ers fan if they get rid of him?

Of course, one thing about me though if I support that QB you don't see me flip flopping back and fourth in support, like some on here. I can actually say I probably defended Ken Dorsey more than I did Jimmy G, it's probably because everyone was on his jock when he was winning no need to defend him.

Why the need to defend any player is what I'm getting at. Teams don't give a damn and players don't give a damn.. it's all a business and that business is taking our money.

I could've sworn this is a message board where people come to be on the offensive and defensive side of discussions and arguments. We are all here to voice our opinions.