Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Mullens playing like 2017 Garoppolo

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Sorry I'm just LMAO over here after It's been confirmed that some on here are "hatin on Jimmy" because they are still butt hurt of how the organization treated Alex smith & Kap.
At least some of these comments are making more sense now.
Pathetic.
I'd say it's Time to get over it..

So weird....At least they're finally coming clean.

It's just easy to see the parallels between kap and jimmy.

Both lit it up and then proceeded to have their weaknesses exposed.

A poster posted earlier. If your quarterback sucks it's far better than if your quarterback is middling and proceeds to just do enough to keep his job. This leads to teams with a good record when the ball bounces their way and middling around 8-8 when it doesnt.

I believe jimmy g is that middling Andy dalton, Matt stafford, level of qb who will never win a superbowl and will proceed to give us a decent record until we lose all our talent and go back to the dark in between years before we just load up again of talent for suckING for so long. He then will get replaced with a new younger qb way too late.

Jimmy Guap is a cool nick name for him. Gotta pay extra for the guac.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

1st game? sounds like you missed most of the entire season dude lol. Jimmy carried multiple times when the defense got walked over. we don't get a 1st round bye without him.(maybe into the playoffs at all) that is a fact.

There's no proof of that. Some of those games Jimmy had to overcome his own off game and own mistakes. NO is the exception but we may beat Atl or Sea with Mullens. We had the #1 d and #2 rushing attack. If Mullens played The way he did vs NYG the odds of us being a bye team is extremely high. The odds of making the playoffs is somewhere around 100%.

Originally posted by Gabberwocky:

Originally posted by genus49:
A QB doesn't play so hot week 1 with little practice reps, no preseason and his top 2 WRs being out and missing his top 2 centers and we lose by 4 with a near game winning TD being just a bit under thrown/late and we're gonna act like it's Kap's game vs the Cards like back in 2015 or whenever that monstrosity happened?

There were a lot of QBs who played poorly week 1. Don't recall if any QB played well who was missing similar playmakers around them.

Does this excuse also apply to Mullen, whom you said looked "TERRIBLE" against the Jets, considering he had no reps prior and during the off-season had few reps with the ones? Or does only Beautiful Jimmy get this grace?

It absolutely does. Mullens also gets the excuse that coming in cold into a game isn't the same as getting starter reps.

But bringing up Nick's play against the Jets simply counters the "it's just the Jets" argument people were using to knock Jimmy's play.

Originally posted by Gabberwocky:
For it is there that they conspire to attack the lonely traveler who enters their abode.

Dude you couldn't even handle how to use a vs an in an sentence...let's not get all philosophical now.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
1st game? sounds like you missed most of the entire season dude lol. Jimmy carried multiple times when the defense got walked over. we don't get a 1st round bye without him.(maybe into the playoffs at all) that is a fact.

There's no proof of that. Some of those games Jimmy had to overcome his own off game and own mistakes. NO is the exception but we may beat Atl or Sea with Mullens. We had the #1 d and #2 rushing attack. If Mullens played The way he did vs NYG the odds of us being a bye team is extremely high. The odds of making the playoffs is somewhere around 100%.

No proof of what? that Jimmy carried? or that Jimmy literally won games for us with his arm only? we had 4th quarter drives to win vs. Steelers, Arizona at home, New Orleans, and the Rams. several of those were game-winning TD's which resulted in wins thus being a product of Jimmy alone in the reason we won based off final plays.

Originally posted by CreedBratton:
Mullens playing like 2017 Garoppolo

Even better

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
It's just easy to see the parallels between kap and jimmy.

Both lit it up and then proceeded to have their weaknesses exposed.

A poster posted earlier. If your quarterback sucks it's far better than if your quarterback is middling and proceeds to just do enough to keep his job. This leads to teams with a good record when the ball bounces their way and middling around 8-8 when it doesnt.

I believe jimmy g is that middling Andy dalton, Matt stafford, level of qb who will never win a superbowl and will proceed to give us a decent record until we lose all our talent and go back to the dark in between years before we just load up again of talent for suckING for so long. He then will get replaced with a new younger qb way too late.

I'm not saying that you're doing this. I haven't read much of this threat, but if people are still pining over Kap, it's too funny for words.

But you do bring up and interesting dynamic and one that I've often thought of bringing, but people on this thread get so bling with rage over any suggestion that might go against their preconceptions or their particular point of view, that it precludes any reasonable discussion. A lot of very immature posters, regardless of age. And unintelligent. Where does all the anger come from? Back to your very astute point point:

Bill Walsh made a very big deal about it. Those QBs who play in that "middling" zone as you characterize it. I think he called it "doing just enough to lose you the game" or some such. Jimmy G. could be occupying that zone (Alex Smith occupied it for many years, until Harbaugh put an end to it). It is incumbent upon KS to get to the bottom of it. And fast, because the 9ers have a championship roster and it may not last for long. I believe that they will give Jimmy the opportunity to show that he has progressed out of that group. They have made that clear and said so. I don't see what the argument is about that.

Someone used the term that Jimmy was their "designated franchise QB". He isn't. They're still waiting to see if can step into that role. He isn't there yet. They've repeatedly made that point. He "has to play better". They hope and "believe" that he can, but it's prove it time. Show it consistently this season; not one or two great games like NO now and then. Hopefully he does. But if he doesn't, I hope that they have the fortitude to make a change. I hope that they don't play the "one more chance" game. That's just slow death and unfair to the rest of the team. The dreaded scenario that you are alluding to.

No guarantee any of it happens. Proof, or change. IMO the FO has already shown very poor judgement since they took over. Not drafting a QB in the first season was unforgivable. Instead a flash-in-the-pan "tweener" at the only position that they were overstocked in? An unfathomable move. One cannot predict what an organization that does that could do. Hopefully they've learned and grown. We'll see.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Jimmy G is a clearly better QB than Nick Mullens.

Pretty asinine statement right there unless you think Garoppolo is just as good as Patrick Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Wilson. They are elite and clearly better than Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Mullens, and everybody else. With that clearly established, the elite category is a club that Jimmy hasn't been invited to or belong in so that would put him in the good to very good(on his best day) category. Good QB is also what Nick Mullens is too and that clearly puts him right there with Garoppolo.

Leadership: Jimmy -
Intangibles: Jimmy
Charisma: Jimmy
Arm Talent: Equal
Athletic Ability: Equal
Intelligence: Nick
Pre & Post snap reads: Nick
Pocket presence: Nick

I give Jimmy the slight edge because of his strong leadership ability and intangibles but that's it. Mullens is our backup QB that is capable of not just starting for the 49ers, but he could start for other NFL teams too.

Personally, I don't think Mullens or Jimmy G are the long-term answer here. Jimmy is the more talented player and the better starter. Mullens runs the offense as good as anyone BUT when s**t breaks down I'm not sure he has the talent to make it work or beat actual good teams

This is crazy but I wouldn't hate going all in on a QB like Trey Lance (would kill it in Kyle's scheme), trade Jimmy G (save a f**k ton of cash to resign whomever), and tender Mullens for a yr.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

This is crazy but I wouldn't hate going all in on a QB like Trey Lance (would kill it in Kyle's scheme), trade Jimmy G (save a f**k ton of cash to resign whomever), and tender Mullens for a yr.

I wouldn't hate these moves at all.

IMO Jimmy hasn't lived up to the billing.

Originally posted by ChicoCorrales:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

This is crazy but I wouldn't hate going all in on a QB like Trey Lance (would kill it in Kyle's scheme), trade Jimmy G (save a f**k ton of cash to resign whomever), and tender Mullens for a yr.

I wouldn't hate these moves at all.

IMO Jimmy hasn't lived up to the billing.

Jimmy is better than Mullens but it comes down to $ and the fact that I just don't see either as the FQB.

Lance is the real deal imo. Gonna cost multiple 1sts to get him BUT I think it's worth it.

Originally posted by Ark49er:

Pretty asinine statement right there unless you think Garoppolo is just as good as Patrick Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Wilson. They are elite and clearly better than Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Mullens, and everybody else. With that clearly established, the elite category is a club that Jimmy hasn't been invited to or belong in so that would put him in the good to very good(on his best day) category. Good QB is also what Nick Mullens is too and that clearly puts him right there with Garoppolo.

Leadership: Jimmy -
Intangibles: Jimmy
Charisma: Jimmy
Arm Talent: Equal
Athletic Ability: Equal
Intelligence: Nick
Pre & Post snap reads: Nick
Pocket presence: Nick

I give Jimmy the slight edge because of his strong leadership ability and intangibles but that's it. Mullens is our backup QB that is capable of not just starting for the 49ers, but he could start for other NFL teams too.

I think Jimmy has the better arm talent. Otherwise I think this is right.

But is not turning the ball over not also an intangible?

Originally posted by Ark49er:

Pretty asinine statement right there unless you think Garoppolo is just as good as Patrick Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Wilson. They are elite and clearly better than Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Mullens, and everybody else. With that clearly established, the elite category is a club that Jimmy hasn't been invited to or belong in so that would put him in the good to very good(on his best day) category. Good QB is also what Nick Mullens is too and that clearly puts him right there with Garoppolo.

Leadership: Jimmy -
Intangibles: Jimmy
Charisma: Jimmy
Arm Talent: Equal
Athletic Ability: Equal
Intelligence: Nick
Pre & Post snap reads: Nick
Pocket presence: Nick

I give Jimmy the slight edge because of his strong leadership ability and intangibles but that's it. Mullens is our backup QB that is capable of not just starting for the 49ers, but he could start for other NFL teams too.

Jimmy's arm talent is better...I think winning matters and that's something Jimmy is pretty good at

Neither is particularly special.