Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Dude...I haven't even cared enough to look into it. I don't need to explore my feelings about our starting qb. I feel how I feel, so be it. It makes no difference in anyone's life. It's not like I was rooting against him in the SB. If he got benched tomorrow I wouldn't care. If he went on to be the elite QB I thought he was, I would be ecstatic.

My guess is my real issue with him had nothing to do with him. It had to do with the way this fan base treated Kap and how they swooned over Jimmy. It kind of made me not like him for a while. And yes, it's possible I mistook his quietness for arrogance. Again, big deal.

The thing that irks me the most is how people make all kinds of excuses for this guy, when all the same issues he's dealing with Kap dealt with more and people were ruthless.

What do you think is the difference between Jimmy and Kap? And why are you choosing to see this difference?

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Dude...I haven't even cared enough to look into it. I don't need to explore my feelings about our starting qb. I feel how I feel, so be it. It makes no difference in anyone's life. It's not like I was rooting against him in the SB. If he got benched tomorrow I wouldn't care. If he went on to be the elite QB I thought he was, I would be ecstatic.

My guess is my real issue with him had nothing to do with him. It had to do with the way this fan base treated Kap and how they swooned over Jimmy. It kind of made me not like him for a while. And yes, it's possible I mistook his quietness for arrogance. Again, big deal.

The thing that irks me the most is how people make all kinds of excuses for this guy, when all the same issues he's dealing with Kap dealt with more and people were ruthless.

I have the same feelings about jimmy, that I had with Kaepernick... even during the playoff runs. Kaepernick took over a team that was 13-3 under Alex Smith.... When Kaepernick "took" us to the playoffs you can color me not surprised... besides a few games that Kaepernick had which were outstanding, just like Alex Smith vs New Orleans, and how Alex Smith lit up Indy in KC, that point remains all quarterbacks can have great games.

My issue is jimmy has that same scared look Kaepernick had, and the hesitation and decision making seems so eerily similar it's insane. Both quarterbacks seemed to stop trusting themselves, and it showed/shows. It's not like they are playing like Alex Smith who instead of hesitating will just immediately hit his check down, no, it's like jimmy is having issues even hitting and reading where his check down is when the play breaks down...

While mullens isn't amazing, you can at least tell he has the confidence to play the position and when he's throwing the ball he trusts in the play and for the players to be in the right position.

Unfortunately just like with past qb's people will argue about if they are good or not, and years later no one eats their words publicly. They just move on with new excuses

Also Oakland niner the reason a lot of people were hailing jimmy g compared to Kaepernick was because like I mentioned, jimmy g took over a team fighting for a top 5 draft pick and took us to 5 straight wins, there was a legit reason to be hyped about it especially with him coming from New England, being a high draft pick, and it being known Bill didn't want to let him go..

Kaepernick took over an NFC championship team that went 13-3 the previous season and was 5-2 when he took over...

Jimmy needs to play better.

Jimmy got hit right in the chin during the super bowl in an obvious penalty that wasn't called (along with a bunch of non calls against Bosa). Jimmy was not the same after that hit because he was concussed. This is not conjecture or speculation. Just watch the play - he was knocked out. Now, Jimmy wasn't playing great before the hit, but, he was playing well enough to win.

People here disregard Jimmy's amazing play over the course of his very short 49ers career for some reason. His talent is far greater than Mullens and Kaep (let's be real, Kap could not read defenses, go through progressions, or make all the throws. He had a fast ball and he could run strait.) Can Jimmy improve? Of course. Does he need to get better? Yes. But is he one of the best young QBs in football? absolutely. He is a better passer than Watson, Jackson, and Murray.

All he does is win and people want to send him packing. This entire conversation is absurd to me.

Originally posted by SD49er:
Jimmy got hit right in the chin during the super bowl in an obvious penalty that wasn't called (along with a bunch of non calls against Bosa). Jimmy was not the same after that hit because he was concussed. This is not conjecture or speculation. Just watch the play - he was knocked out. Now, Jimmy wasn't playing great before the hit, but, he was playing well enough to win.

People here disregard Jimmy's amazing play over the course of his very short 49ers career for some reason. His talent is far greater than Mullens and Kaep (let's be real, Kap could not read defenses, go through progressions, or make all the throws. He had a fast ball and he could run strait.) Can Jimmy improve? Of course. Does he need to get better? Yes. But is he one of the best young QBs in football? absolutely. He is a better passer than Watson, Jackson, and Murray.

All he does is win and people want to send him packing. This entire conversation is absurd to me.

This. 95% of the posts in here are asinine. But I recall many people who wanted Montana replaced, and then Young. So 49ers fans have always been pretty ignorant when it comes to evaluating QB's. No surprises here.

Originally posted by SD49er:

Jimmy got hit right in the chin during the super bowl in an obvious penalty that wasn't called (along with a bunch of non calls against Bosa). Jimmy was not the same after that hit because he was concussed. This is not conjecture or speculation. Just watch the play - he was knocked out. Now, Jimmy wasn't playing great before the hit, but, he was playing well enough to win.

People here disregard Jimmy's amazing play over the course of his very short 49ers career for some reason. His talent is far greater than Mullens and Kaep (let's be real, Kap could not read defenses, go through progressions, or make all the throws. He had a fast ball and he could run strait.) Can Jimmy improve? Of course. Does he need to get better? Yes. But is he one of the best young QBs in football? absolutely. He is a better passer than Watson, Jackson, and Murray.

All he does is win and people want to send him packing. This entire conversation is absurd to me.

If he was concussed, then he should have done the right thing and let Mullens take over. It's kind of selfish of him to stay in the game with a concussion. Mullens would have gotten the job done.

Originally posted by SD49er:

Jimmy got hit right in the chin during the super bowl in an obvious penalty that wasn't called (along with a bunch of non calls against Bosa). Jimmy was not the same after that hit because he was concussed. This is not conjecture or speculation. Just watch the play - he was knocked out. Now, Jimmy wasn't playing great before the hit, but, he was playing well enough to win.

People here disregard Jimmy's amazing play over the course of his very short 49ers career for some reason. His talent is far greater than Mullens and Kaep (let's be real, Kap could not read defenses, go through progressions, or make all the throws. He had a fast ball and he could run strait.) Can Jimmy improve? Of course. Does he need to get better? Yes. But is he one of the best young QBs in football? absolutely. He is a better passer than Watson, Jackson, and Murray.

All he does is win and people want to send him packing. This entire conversation is absurd to me.

People don't want to send him "packing". People misinterpret that people feel we need to upgrade the position as, "packing". We don't let jimmy go until we find a replacement that much is clear, however all the jimmy homers or people on the fence act as if qbs just grow on trees. We could have jimmy for the next decade at qb and the reasoning for that could be from us busting on every qb draft pick, or the qb we draft simply just not being as good as jimmy.

A lot of jimmys "haters" concede he's average and some days very good, above average, but see the limitations of never becoming a blue chip qb. Then u have the homers who argue this and say he is well above average and with time easily can become a blue chip elite and to think otherwise is trolling and absurd.

The dude needs to play better, and if he doesn't our staff needs to have the capacity to understand how to find his replacement without killing his already hurt confidence in the process, since the process could take years to find someone better.

If he's never gonna be a mahomes, Brady, Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers russel Wilson, etc, then I don't know why anyone is opposed to us drafting qbs at random throughout the years to hopefully hit on a gem that can replace him and hopefully be one of these guys I just mentioned. These are the pinnacle type of qbs you look for in the nfl and it seems at all times there's always the 5-10 elite qbs, then the "above average" qbs (jimmy falls in this category) then u have the fillers/stop gaps, then the rookies or 2nd year rookies.

If you don't have one of those Elite qbs, u keep looking, but in a different way, if that makes sense

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SD49er:
Jimmy got hit right in the chin during the super bowl in an obvious penalty that wasn't called (along with a bunch of non calls against Bosa). Jimmy was not the same after that hit because he was concussed. This is not conjecture or speculation. Just watch the play - he was knocked out. Now, Jimmy wasn't playing great before the hit, but, he was playing well enough to win.

People here disregard Jimmy's amazing play over the course of his very short 49ers career for some reason. His talent is far greater than Mullens and Kaep (let's be real, Kap could not read defenses, go through progressions, or make all the throws. He had a fast ball and he could run strait.) Can Jimmy improve? Of course. Does he need to get better? Yes. But is he one of the best young QBs in football? absolutely. He is a better passer than Watson, Jackson, and Murray.

All he does is win and people want to send him packing. This entire conversation is absurd to me.

This. 95% of the posts in here are asinine. But I recall many people who wanted Montana replaced, and then Young. So 49ers fans have always been pretty ignorant when it comes to evaluating QB's. No surprises here.

Agree. I think a lot of folks are over valuing Nick, after he's played a bottom feeding team. The stats he's generated are eye boggling though. He's had as many game over 250+ yards as Montana (for example). Those kinds of stats can confuse casual fans about Nick's talent vs Jimmy's talent. Having said that, to me, having this kind of controversy means that our backup QB is perceived as good as the starting QB by a lot of fans. That wouldn't be the case if he played badly and lost to the Giants. So, really, it's a good thing.

Originally posted by BumCity:

Originally posted by SD49er:
Jimmy got hit right in the chin during the super bowl in an obvious penalty that wasn't called (along with a bunch of non calls against Bosa). Jimmy was not the same after that hit because he was concussed. This is not conjecture or speculation. Just watch the play - he was knocked out. Now, Jimmy wasn't playing great before the hit, but, he was playing well enough to win.

People here disregard Jimmy's amazing play over the course of his very short 49ers career for some reason. His talent is far greater than Mullens and Kaep (let's be real, Kap could not read defenses, go through progressions, or make all the throws. He had a fast ball and he could run strait.) Can Jimmy improve? Of course. Does he need to get better? Yes. But is he one of the best young QBs in football? absolutely. He is a better passer than Watson, Jackson, and Murray.

All he does is win and people want to send him packing. This entire conversation is absurd to me.

If he was concussed, then he should have done the right thing and let Mullens take over. It's kind of selfish of him to stay in the game with a concussion. Mullens would have gotten the job done.

Maybe he should have. But had Jimmy left the game, and the team lost, he would have also been blamed as being soft, selfish, not a team player, and all the other bs. He did everything he could to win. People act like he missed a wide open Sanders on an easy play, which is asinine. That was a low percentage throw for Russel Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. Hell, we win if the hold on Bosa on the Hill reception is called. This is how close the game was. But none of this takes away from the fact that Jimmy is the most talented QB on the team since Young, but people still hate him. Rodgers and Brees have one championship each - that's it. It's hard to win. People want perfection, but Brady, Brees, Manning, and Rodgers had bad games in their prime. Jimmy's not even in his prime yet. He is still improving. Let the guy improve.

Jimmy G is a clearly better QB than Nick Mullens.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Jimmy G is a clearly better QB than Nick Mullens.

Clearly, yes. People saying big dick nick is better are being homers like the jimmy g homers.

I do think nick has a lot of raw potential though.

If we do keep jimmy for a while, I do hope we can show off nick more for good draft capital

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

"Be serious now." @IWilliams95 is having none of this "controversy" talk pic.twitter.com/ibq8NcowWA

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) September 28, 2020

That's the problem.. SF has one of the worst sports media markets in the states and matches the fan base

Real players know the value of Jimmy, just cause he doesn't put up fantasy numbers doesn't mean he's not a good quarterback or leader.. dude f**king wins and that's all that should matter

Originally posted by genus49:

The offense isn't designed to have big plays when things break down.

Ahhh,....so the continual sacks that knock us out of FG or 1st down range are by design? What Shanahan wants is for us to cower and curl up like a hedgehog whenever plays break down? This is a new,...interesting take.

Originally posted by onetrackt:

That's the problem.. SF has one of the worst sports media markets in the states and matches the fan base

Real players know the value of Jimmy, just cause he doesn't put up fantasy numbers doesn't mean he's not a good quarterback or leader.. dude f**king wins and that's all that should matter

It's really not. Let me lay it out for you.

If we ever meet KC in the super bowl again, we will ALWAYS need the better overall team to win, and if we don't, we will need to completely win in the penalty game, and have all the bounces and luck go our way. That is the issue everyone has.

Against other teams in 2020 we will usually have the better overall team, but that won't be the case from 2020-2030 and you and others seem content to ride him for that amount of time. When we have the lesser team, and the other team has a qb like Aaron rodgers, ruseeel Wilson, or Patrick mahomes, who will you be betting on? I can tell you where the Vegas odds will stand.