Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Crock is such a badass.

Originally posted by genus49:

One of them was a 20 team league though! Does that change your opinion?

Brah I'm back to back to back champ in my 10+ yr league.

Winston taking me to the promise land lol. We should dump JG for winston because he scores a ton of fantasy pts

Originally posted by NCommand:
Crock is such a badass.

So what he's saying is.. even after sitting behind Alex Smith it took him to be on the field and gain playing experience to truly understand what he's seeing and although he's been a 2 year starter.. the more he plays the better he gets & still has a ways to go... interesting 🤔 https://t.co/JHuithqxXW

— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) March 6, 2020

uh, I think that point has been made in this thread quite a few times...

Originally posted by cciowa:

i will never argue with you about sanders trying and i pushed back on anyone who said it was sanders fault. but sorry yes for the way he handled the whole right before half time thing reeked of mooch vs tampa bay and running away from the run... i like kyle just as i liked jh,.but in both cases,. coaching in my opinion prevented us from winning two very winnable super bowls

I've broken down that last two mins before the half in this thread and it basically came down to not knowing if their elite punter was gonna put it inside the 5 (which almost happened)...if they did KC would have gotten the ball back based on having 3 TOs. If there's one dude you don't want to give the ball back to it Mahomes imo.

After the punt, they ran the ball got a big play to wilson and would have put up some pts if not for a stupid OPI on Kittle.

I have zero problems with how that went down.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Crock is such a badass.

So what he's saying is.. even after sitting behind Alex Smith it took him to be on the field and gain playing experience to truly understand what he's seeing and although he's been a 2 year starter.. the more he plays the better he gets & still has a ways to go... interesting 🤔 https://t.co/JHuithqxXW

— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) March 6, 2020

Exactly

Originally posted by dj43:
uh, I think that point has been made in this thread quite a few times...

It has. And the exact opposite point has been made in another thread thats in NFL talk quite a few times too. Funny thing to me is that the same people are making both points, and the points are opposites. I agree with the point being made now in here.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

LADIES & GERMMMSSS !!!

Had Shana-Dumb just called a couple of running plays that would have led us to winning the Super Bowl, I'm pretty sure everyone here who's BLAMING Jimmy would have overlooked his weak side at this moment...

All signs pointing to Jimmy as a future TOP 5 Quarterback, don't forget that it was only his FIRST FULL SEASON !!

He did and jimmy checked out of them.

CHECKE OUT??

here's one for you bro... just another lesson..

BUFFALO VS. DALLAS
Super Bowl Rematch

Winning Drive was all about Emmitt Smith.. he ran he ran and he ran some more..

WHY?? it's because it was the strength of their team !!!!

Did YOU ever read any article THEN that they ran the ball to win the Super Bowl because JIMMY JOHNSON did NOT trust TROY AIKMAN ???

Watch the breakdown of the play calling that was posted awhile back. Kyle calls plays in a manner that covers for Jimmy's shortcomings. Even with that play calling Jimmy missed many open players and made bad reads. The overthrow at the end was likely the final nail in his coffin.

If Lynch and Kyle are looking at Brady it's because they know Jimmy can't cut it and the window is small,can't waste time with a QB who just doesn't get it. Bring on Brady, Jimmy cost us a SB and there should be accountability for that.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I know what Kyle said. My point is, if he had Aaron Rodgers as his QB, he wouldnt have decided that. If he had Russell Wilson as his QB, he wouldnt have decided that. Therefore, in this specific scenario I think it can be very logical to conclude he didnt trust Jimmy to not make a mistake.

Also, I totally disagree with your ascertation that a turnover would be the worst thing in the world on that 3rd down. If Jimmy's ball was picked off, it would have been like a punt. The conclusions you are drawing from being "allowed to throw on the 25" can be discounted with the type of throw that was dialed up.

This was another one of my points. I said there were examples in the SB that point to BOTH Kyle having faith in Jimmy and Kyle not having faith in Jimmy. Kyle keeping the ball in Jimmy's hands with a 2 score lead is one example proving he DID have faith in Jimmy.

But you cant use this one piece of evidence to say the other side is wrong. Because, like I said, there were conflicting messages Kyle sent throughout the game....which is why I have no idea if Kyle has full trust in Jimmy. What bothers me is that no one knows, yet the people who claim that Kyle has full trust in Jimmy claim that they KNOW. They dont.

Really tired of the "no QB makes all the plays" type argument. I guarantee you a Saints or Patriots fan has never said that. I also dont believe the trust thing is coming from New England. Some of our fans think that way. Some of our fans think like me and genuinely dont know for sure. But to claim that its coming from New England is kind of silly bro. You are reading this thread, and people arent Patriots fans in here.

I understand what you're saying but unless you're saying "Kyle didn't have faith in Jimmy in the first half but he gained it in the second half" then whatever happened to end the first half doesn't overshadow that end of the game where we had the lead he had Jimmy throwing.

That is crunch time. If you have your QB throwing with a 2 score lead with half of Q4 left and all the success we've had running the ball that blows away any ideas that Kyle doesn't trust Jimmy.

In hindsight I wish Kyle didn't trust him there...it would probably leads us to win the game.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Crock is such a badass.

So what he's saying is.. even after sitting behind Alex Smith it took him to be on the field and gain playing experience to truly understand what he's seeing and although he's been a 2 year starter.. the more he plays the better he gets & still has a ways to go... interesting 🤔 https://t.co/JHuithqxXW

— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) March 6, 2020

Exactly

Guys 6 years!!!!

Not 3....6!!!

Playing behind Alex Smith not Tom Brady!!!!

Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Watch the breakdown of the play calling that was posted awhile back. Kyle calls plays in a manner that covers for Jimmy's shortcomings. Even with that play calling Jimmy missed many open players and made bad reads. The overthrow at the end was likely the final nail in his coffin.

If Lynch and Kyle are looking at Brady it's because they know Jimmy can't cut it and the window is small,can't waste time with a QB who just doesn't get it. Bring on Brady, Jimmy cost us a SB and there should be accountability for that.

Kyle calls plays which play to our strengths all around. What coach doesn't do that?

Show me how many open players he missed or how many bad reads he had.

Kyle isn't stupid he understands that a young starter will have some growing pains and all QBs miss some reads. The guys who play more see the field better.

Missing a bomb to Sanders was unfortunate but it's not an easy throw. He hit Kittle on a big throw earlier in the game...a guy he's had plenty of time to practice timing with. He under threw Sanders twice on completions earlier in the year Saints game and Rams game...clearly he felt if he puts more on the ball there Sanders will get the TD. Didn't happen.

Originally posted by 9moon:

CHECKE OUT??

here's one for you bro... just another lesson..

BUFFALO VS. DALLAS
Super Bowl Rematch

Winning Drive was all about Emmitt Smith.. he ran he ran and he ran some more..

WHY?? it's because it was the strength of their team !!!!

Did YOU ever read any article THEN that they ran the ball to win the Super Bowl because JIMMY JOHNSON did NOT trust TROY AIKMAN ???

Dude I don't care about your nostalgic story about some football game from 30 yrs ago. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said or what actually happen.

Here's a lesson for you bud, jimmy checked out of run calls multiple times and that's a fact. Whatever Emmitt Smith did 30 yrs ago has no relevance to what actually happened or what I said.

Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:

Watch the breakdown of the play calling that was posted awhile back. Kyle calls plays in a manner that covers for Jimmy's shortcomings. Even with that play calling Jimmy missed many open players and made bad reads. The overthrow at the end was likely the final nail in his coffin.

If Lynch and Kyle are looking at Brady it's because they know Jimmy can't cut it and the window is small,can't waste time with a QB who just doesn't get it. Bring on Brady, Jimmy cost us a SB and there should be accountability for that.

Stop. Yes he missed Kittle a couple times. Chris Jones f**king dominated our IOL. Brady isn't doing any better and looked like dogs**t vs the Titans. Dude was not a good QB this yr overall.

Let's just all relax

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
CHECKE OUT??

here's one for you bro... just another lesson..

BUFFALO VS. DALLAS
Super Bowl Rematch

Winning Drive was all about Emmitt Smith.. he ran he ran and he ran some more..

WHY?? it's because it was the strength of their team !!!!

Did YOU ever read any article THEN that they ran the ball to win the Super Bowl because JIMMY JOHNSON did NOT trust TROY AIKMAN ???

Dude I don't care about your nostalgic story about some football game from 30 yrs ago. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said or what actually happen.

Here's a lesson for you bud, jimmy checked out of run calls multiple times and that's a fact. Whatever Emmitt Smith did 30 yrs ago have no relevance to what actually happened.

Hmm...maybe i read his post wrong but I thought he meant people shouldn't take running the ball instead of passing as a sign that Kyle doesnt' trust Jimmy.

I dont think Kyle sits there and asks himself "hmm do I trust Jimmy" before each and every play. Every play isnt some sort of evidence that directly relates to his trust in Jimmy. Theres an oline receivers RBs and game situations to consider

Clearly there are things Jimmy can do better than others, but we won 15 games with him and were really close to a SB. Kyle's job is to coach the whole team to victory not make sure everybody knows he trusts Jimmy.

Originally posted by genus49:

Hmm...maybe i read his post wrong but I thought he meant people shouldn't take running the ball instead of passing as a sign that Kyle doesnt' trust Jimmy.

No, he complained that kyle didn't run the ball more and we would have won if that happened.

I pointed out that he DID call run plays and jimmy checked out of some of them in the 2nd half. His rebuttal (like usual ) was talking about some game from 30 yrs ago.