Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ShotTime:

We lost some Oline but he was still protected quite well actually, and when he wasn't protected well, he had a very hard time beating the pressure on his own like players like Brees does. I believe Brees is the best qb in the nfl against the blitz, and he's not exactly considered mobile.


He was also mid-tier on some stats as well.

QBR he was 12th.
Pass yards 12th
8th most interceptions in the league.

His TT (Time to throw) was bottom of the league this yr. most of his throws when having guys like Skule and Bunskill blocking were quick short passes for a reason. Person was awful this yr and Garland can't pass-protect.

You bring up QBR, I'll bring up QB rating which he was 8th overall.

Yeah I'd expect his yards to not be top end he was 20th in attempts. Bringing up total yards is a horrible take. Winston lead the league in that.

Yes INTs were an issue and I expect that to go down with better pass pro and you know actually play more football. First yr as a starter (coming off an ACL) learning the offense and understanding coverages. Only way that improves is with more snaps.

I agree im not a fan of using passing yards as a measurement of someone's ability to play quarterback, unless their attempts is like #5 and their yards 10th or lower etc..

I personally don't expect his ints to go down, but am hopeful. His first two years with us he was throwing almost just as many picks as tds, this year was the lowest it's been and was still very high for his attempts on the season. If he attempted more throws, ok, but he didn't, which is very scary when you think about it..

Example, he was #19 in pass attempts but throws the 8th most interceptions in the league?

Every game I see some crazy , weird decision making from jimmy g. Then other times your like oh phew jimmy is pretty good, then he does some crazy weird throws again so it's a constant back and forth, is he good or is he not? And I think that's where a lot of this debate about whether or not Kyle sees what everyone else is seeing when jimmy is throwing the ball. Most people I talk to in real life say they close their eyes when he drops back to pass and that's not an exaggeration lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

If you truly believe that, you really weren't paying attention.

Amongst a list of other reasons, the drive before halftime of the SB should be all you need to at the very least believe that there is a high probability that it could be possible.

If you actually listen to kyle explain that drive you'd be wrong.

KC was punting from the 50 and have one of the best punters in the league at putting it inside the 5. KC also had 3 TOs.

What happens if they DO punt it inside the 5 (which almost happened)? You can't use a full playbook. You can't run a 2 min offense backup that far. Great you run the ball a couple times, KC calls all it's TOs and Mahomes gets one last chance to get pts up.

Oh and when they didn't get it inside the 5, Kyle let jimmy uncork a ball to Kittle for like what 40 yards? Would have been perfect if not for a stupid OPI.

Poor example.

Stupid OPI? It was textbook OPI "full extension of the arm to the shoulder" lol...

Secondly we were on like our own 25-30 yard line , 1:30 left 3 time outs.... run, run, pass. Kyle is even on record for saying he didn't wanna give the ball back to mahomes and their offense. As I said on the last page, so he has confidence in mahomes and their offense to score on our elite defense in less than a minute, but doesn't have confidence that jimmy g and our rushing attack that popped off 200yards two weeks prior can't score with 3 time outs??

Originally posted by ShotTime:

I agree im not a fan of using passing yards as a measurement of someone's ability to play quarterback, unless their attempts is like #5 and their yards 10th or lower etc..

I personally don't expect his ints to go down, but am hopeful. His first two years with us he was throwing almost just as many picks as tds, this year was the lowest it's been and was still very high for his attempts on the season. If he attempted more throws, ok, but he didn't, which is very scary when you think about it..

Example, he was #19 in pass attempts but throws the 8th most interceptions in the league?

Every game I see some crazy , weird decision making from jimmy g. Then other times your like oh phew jimmy is pretty good, then he does some crazy weird throws again so it's a constant back and forth, is he good or is he not? And I think that's where a lot of this debate about whether or not Kyle sees what everyone else is seeing when jimmy is throwing the ball. Most people I talk to in real life say they close their eyes when he drops back to pass and that's not an exaggeration lol

you can't say his first two yrs without saying he played 5 games coming in halfway thru a season and playing what 2 and half games in yr two? That minn game he lost multiple lineman and at the time our best WR in Goodwin

You could debate this was basically his rookie yr and he had to deal with recovering with a ACL on top of it...In fact you should look at QBs coming off ACLs and following yr, it isn't amazing in most cases.

There was a couple dumb INTs no doubt. There was also a couple that were actually because of the WRs and because our OL didn't hold up in PP as well.

It's amazing the mount of hate a guy who was 7 mins away from being the SB MVP in his first full season as a start has gotten. Incredible.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
If you truly believe that, you really weren't paying attention.

Amongst a list of other reasons, the drive before halftime of the SB should be all you need to at the very least believe that there is a high probability that it could be possible.

If you actually listen to kyle explain that drive you'd be wrong.

KC was punting from the 50 and have one of the best punters in the league at putting it inside the 5. KC also had 3 TOs.

What happens if they DO punt it inside the 5 (which almost happened)? You can't use a full playbook. You can't run a 2 min offense backup that far. Great you run the ball a couple times, KC calls all it's TOs and Mahomes gets one last chance to get pts up.

Oh and when they didn't get it inside the 5, Kyle let jimmy uncork a ball to Kittle for like what 40 yards? Would have been perfect if not for a stupid OPI.

Poor example.

You're really dominating these guys in here the past few days. Doing God's work. Appreciate you.

Originally posted by ShotTime:

Stupid OPI? It was textbook OPI "full extension of the arm to the shoulder" lol...

Secondly we were on like our own 25-30 yard line , 1:30 left 3 time outs.... run, run, pass. Kyle is even on record for saying he didn't wanna give the ball back to mahomes and their offense. As I said on the last page, so he has confidence in mahomes and their offense to score on our elite defense in less than a minute, but doesn't have confidence that jimmy g and our rushing attack that popped off 200yards two weeks prior can't score with 3 time outs??

I've seen mike Evans and Thomas pull that s**t on the regular and not get that called. He didn't even need to extend his arm he had him beat AND it was actually a f**king good throwing outside the numbers like everyone b***hes that he can't make.

People b***h that kyle didn't use a TO when KC had the ball! It was like 3rd and 14 and they let like min roll off that clock before KC punted.

As far as running it no s**t, KC was in prevent D there. Once he got a explosive play with jimmy passing the ball to wilson they used TOs and took a shot.

Im Completely fine with how that went down. Again like kyle said it had more to do with making sure Mahomes not getting the ball back (with their 3 TOs) vs having no faith in jimmy.

Originally posted by Furlow:

You're really dominating these guys in here the past few days. Doing God's work. Appreciate you.

I'm just about done with this nonsense. It's draft season and that's what we should be discussing.

Originally posted by Antix:

This reminds me of the 'Jimmy wont sign a LTD with us' in 2017 lol

I think you are remembering it wrong....... it was......"Jimmy won't get an STD with us" back then.....

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

If you truly believe that, you really weren't paying attention.

Amongst a list of other reasons, the drive before halftime of the SB should be all you need to at the very least believe that there is a high probability that it could be possible.

If you actually listen to kyle explain that drive you'd be wrong.

KC was punting from the 50 and have one of the best punters in the league at putting it inside the 5. KC also had 3 TOs.

What happens if they DO punt it inside the 5 (which almost happened)? You can't use a full playbook. You can't run a 2 min offense backup that far. Great you run the ball a couple times, KC calls all it's TOs and Mahomes gets one last chance to get pts up.

Oh and when they didn't get it inside the 5, Kyle let jimmy uncork a ball to Kittle for like what 40 yards? Would have been perfect if not for a stupid OPI.

Poor example.

You're really dominating these guys in here the past few days. Doing God's work. Appreciate you.

Him and Sky make a great team lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

If you truly believe that, you really weren't paying attention.

Amongst a list of other reasons, the drive before halftime of the SB should be all you need to at the very least believe that there is a high probability that it could be possible.

If you actually listen to kyle explain that drive you'd be wrong.

KC was punting from the 50 and have one of the best punters in the league at putting it inside the 5. KC also had 3 TOs.

What happens if they DO punt it inside the 5 (which almost happened)? You can't use a full playbook. You can't run a 2 min offense backup that far. Great you run the ball a couple times, KC calls all it's TOs and Mahomes gets one last chance to get pts up.

Oh and when they didn't get it inside the 5, Kyle let jimmy uncork a ball to Kittle for like what 40 yards? Would have been perfect if not for a stupid OPI.

Poor example.

Lol! That was my exact explanation at the time. As to why not call timeouts BEFORE the punt.

But AFTER the punt you have :59, 3 timeouts and at the 20. Yet, we ran ran and had KC not called a timeout we would have went to halftime.

So not a poor example.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

If you truly believe that, you really weren't paying attention.

Amongst a list of other reasons, the drive before halftime of the SB should be all you need to at the very least believe that there is a high probability that it could be possible.

If you actually listen to kyle explain that drive you'd be wrong.

KC was punting from the 50 and have one of the best punters in the league at putting it inside the 5. KC also had 3 TOs.

What happens if they DO punt it inside the 5 (which almost happened)? You can't use a full playbook. You can't run a 2 min offense backup that far. Great you run the ball a couple times, KC calls all it's TOs and Mahomes gets one last chance to get pts up.

Oh and when they didn't get it inside the 5, Kyle let jimmy uncork a ball to Kittle for like what 40 yards? Would have been perfect if not for a stupid OPI.

Poor example.

You're really dominating these guys in here the past few days. Doing God's work. Appreciate you.

Dominating? By throwing up stats that support his argument. While leaving others out. Leaving out that Cousins #'s are either right below or right above most of the numbers he's using.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
If you truly believe that, you really weren't paying attention.

Amongst a list of other reasons, the drive before halftime of the SB should be all you need to at the very least believe that there is a high probability that it could be possible.

If you actually listen to kyle explain that drive you'd be wrong.

KC was punting from the 50 and have one of the best punters in the league at putting it inside the 5. KC also had 3 TOs.

What happens if they DO punt it inside the 5 (which almost happened)? You can't use a full playbook. You can't run a 2 min offense backup that far. Great you run the ball a couple times, KC calls all it's TOs and Mahomes gets one last chance to get pts up.

Oh and when they didn't get it inside the 5, Kyle let jimmy uncork a ball to Kittle for like what 40 yards? Would have been perfect if not for a stupid OPI.

Poor example.

You're really dominating these guys in here the past few days. Doing God's work. Appreciate you.

Dominating? By throwing up stats that support his argument. While leaving others out. Leaving out that Cousins #'s are either right below or right above most of the numbers he's using.

Yes. I'm slightly embarrassed for you and your ilk.

Originally posted by krizay:

Lol! That was my exact explanation at the time. As to why not call timeouts BEFORE the punt.

But AFTER the punt you have :59, 3 timeouts and at the 20. Yet, we ran ran and had KC not called a timeout we would have went to halftime.

So not a poor example.

No it was a poor example. They threw the ball to wilson for like 20+ used TOs and they uncorked the ball. If he truly didn't trust him he would have ran the ball out. If he truly didn't trust him he would have ran the ball late in the game vs throwing the ball with Jimmy to end it.

Alright dudes.... as much as I want to keep debating if our 13-3 super bowl playing QB sucks AND how much better a 43 yr old QB, who is coming off his worst yr as a starter would actually be better...I'm done

Originally posted by NCommand:

The 49ers started this game trailing 16-0.

The running backs had 18 carries for 27 total rushing yards.

Jimmy G went 34/45 for 424 yards 4 TDs in come from behind win.

Not bad https://t.co/kdPQd9pxPy

— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) March 5, 2020

In before, "But, but, but the Cardinals defense sucks, so Jimmy was just lucky. "We need a QB who can throw for 400+ against every team..."