Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

and its got to be something a helluva lot better than brady

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

How about a QB that make more than one read? How about a QB that make the correct read? How about a mobile QB?

Originally posted by RockNRollStar:

Originally posted by English:
Of course. I doubt whether the thought of not keeping him has occurred to anyone in the team.

I hope you're right but plenty of people have pointed to Shanahan's decision to play safe with two minutes remaining of the first half as proof that he did not have faith in Garoppolo to make the big plays. It does make me wonder whether Shanahan sees a long-term future in Garoppolo.

For the record: I want Jimmy G to be our QB (and not just because I have his name on my shirt).

If he didn't have faith in Jimmy then he would've called all runs in the 4th when we had the lead and told Jimmy don't even think about audibling out of run.

Someone pointed out that he likely didn't call timeout before the Chiefs punted in fear of them pinning us inside the 10 which was VERY close to happening.

We were getting the ball back to start the 2nd half and last thing Kyle wanted to do was give KC another possession. In hindsight we should've been more aggressive but the BS OPI certainly didn't help things.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
i still can't tell exactly who he was targeting.

but it doesn't matter. the play design worked. Jimmy could've hit either one. that play clearly isn't shanny or Jimmy's "fault". Jones made a play. just have to tip your hat and move on

I'm late to that convo, but yeah it doesn't matter who he was targeting. All three guys were open. The fault is the OLmen not punching Chris Jones in the ribs to prevent him from being able to bat the ball down. On a quick rhythm passing play, those OLmen have to know and block for it.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

How about a QB that make more than one read? How about a QB that make the correct read? How about a mobile QB?

Fair enough......who you got?

Originally posted by genus49:
If he didn't have faith in Jimmy then he would've called all runs in the 4th when we had the lead and told Jimmy don't even think about audibling out of run.

Someone pointed out that he likely didn't call timeout before the Chiefs punted in fear of them pinning us inside the 10 which was VERY close to happening.

We were getting the ball back to start the 2nd half and last thing Kyle wanted to do was give KC another possession. In hindsight we should've been more aggressive but the BS OPI certainly didn't help things.

Wouldn't call it "BS OPI", True i was livid when I seen it live. After rewatching it monday, it was textbook OPI "Full arm extension to create separation." its in the rulebook. It also went straight to sorensons' shoulder.

It was a little tick tacky especially since I don't think he even needed to extend his arm and had the guy beat, but it was a foul regardless.

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

How about a QB that make more than one read? How about a QB that make the correct read? How about a mobile QB?

Fair enough......who you got?

Someone in the draft. In april of 2000, I am pretty sure a lot more teams would be biting on Tom Brady if they knew who he'd turn out to be, rather than teams passing on him 5 times.

You miss on 100% of the chances you don't take. Just because the premium QB may not be there at our pick, doesn't mean you can't take a chance on someone in the later rounds, or in the early round if someone falls to the staff whose ceiling they love more than Jimmy G's. We aren't tied to only choosing QB's from free agency, and there's nothing wrong with thinking Jimmy G isn't the answer but drafting someone and letting them sit a year behind him as well.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
i still can't tell exactly who he was targeting.

but it doesn't matter. the play design worked. Jimmy could've hit either one. that play clearly isn't shanny or Jimmy's "fault". Jones made a play. just have to tip your hat and move on

I'm kinda wondering where that old Bob McKitrick style of O-Line coaching has gone. When he was there, you didn't see a lot of batted balls, from Montana or Young, both pretty similar heights to Jimmy, cause he taught the O-lineman to bury their helmets into the D-Lineman's groin area when they sensed them dropping back to bat a ball. Brings the arms down real quick.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
i still can't tell exactly who he was targeting.

but it doesn't matter. the play design worked. Jimmy could've hit either one. that play clearly isn't shanny or Jimmy's "fault". Jones made a play. just have to tip your hat and move on

I'm late to that convo, but yeah it doesn't matter who he was targeting. All three guys were open. The fault is the OLmen not punching Chris Jones in the ribs to prevent him from being able to bat the ball down. On a quick rhythm passing play, those OLmen have to know and block for it.

Jones started doing that a lot in the 4th and so did other Chiefs DL. They realized we aren't passing deep, it's all short throws. obviously it's hard to get to the QB when it's just a 3 step drop, especially if they are quick one read throws. so you sit back like Jones did.

that's why they were having success doing that. If you know it's gonna be a short pass, that's gonna be a low trajectory ball, and it's easy to bat down. when you don't trust your QB to throw deep, the defense will adjust, especially a SB team.

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

How about a QB that make more than one read? How about a QB that make the correct read? How about a mobile QB?

Fair enough......who you got?

Nobody now. But if you want to win the big games in this era - you need that kind of QB. If you are going to compete the Mahomes, in the league, you need a QB that can counter punch. We have had trouble defensively against mobile QBs. More and more teams are getting to the QBs - so the QB needs to be able get out of the pocket quickly and make throws or run. Garappolo is not mobile. No I don't have any one in mind.

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

How about a QB that make more than one read? How about a QB that make the correct read? How about a mobile QB?

Fair enough......who you got?

Rational fans waiting for the Jimmy G haters to come up with viable and better alternatives to him at QB

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

How about a QB that make more than one read? How about a QB that make the correct read? How about a mobile QB?

Fair enough......who you got?

Nobody now. But if you want to win the big games in this era - you need that kind of QB. If you are going to compete the Mahomes, in the league, you need a QB that can counter punch. We have had trouble defensively against mobile QBs. More and more teams are getting to the QBs - so the QB needs to be able get out of the pocket quickly and make throws or run. Garappolo is not mobile. No I don't have any one in mind.

So you're complaining just to complain? Understood. At least you're honest.

Originally posted by SBorBust:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

How about a QB that make more than one read? How about a QB that make the correct read? How about a mobile QB?

Fair enough......who you got?

Someone in the draft. In april of 2000, I am pretty sure a lot more teams would be biting on Tom Brady if they knew who he'd turn out to be, rather than teams passing on him 5 times.

You miss on 100% of the chances you don't take. Just because the premium QB may not be there at our pick, doesn't mean you can't take a chance on someone in the later rounds, or in the early round if someone falls to the staff whose ceiling they love more than Jimmy G's. We aren't tied to only choosing QB's from free agency, and there's nothing wrong with thinking Jimmy G isn't the answer but drafting someone and letting them sit a year behind him as well.

Complains that we don't have a mobile QB, says we should draft a mobile QB, uses Tom Brady (the most immobile QB in the league) as an example.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SBorBust:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
To the all the Garoppolo haters, doubters, blamers.....enough of the "he did this wrong, he did that poorly, didn't throw it to so and so, he stinks, he's a game manager" comments. I want to hear your alternatives at QB for the Niners and why he would be an automatic upgrade at the position.

How about a QB that make more than one read? How about a QB that make the correct read? How about a mobile QB?

Fair enough......who you got?

Someone in the draft. In april of 2000, I am pretty sure a lot more teams would be biting on Tom Brady if they knew who he'd turn out to be, rather than teams passing on him 5 times.

You miss on 100% of the chances you don't take. Just because the premium QB may not be there at our pick, doesn't mean you can't take a chance on someone in the later rounds, or in the early round if someone falls to the staff whose ceiling they love more than Jimmy G's. We aren't tied to only choosing QB's from free agency, and there's nothing wrong with thinking Jimmy G isn't the answer but drafting someone and letting them sit a year behind him as well.

Complains that we don't have a mobile QB, says we should draft a mobile QB, uses Tom Brady (the most immobile QB in the league) as an example.

We didnt't have offensive line like Brady and probable never will - also Brady could make better reads.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Complains that we don't have a mobile QB, says we should draft a mobile QB, uses Tom Brady (the most immobile QB in the league) as an example.

I never once used the word "mobile" in my posts and a search engine function would prove that. I did however talk about his inability to handle pressure in the superbowl game, something that both quarterbacks face and a task all quarterbacks in the league are faced with.

Also, your point to me using him as an example was also a terrible decision, seeing as Tom Brady throughout his career has been one of the best QB's when under pressure from opposing defenses, being mobile has nothing to do with my point and it still doesn't.