Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Watching the live feed on FB and Jimmy looking good.

We know that, but how was he practicing.

lol well timed

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Watching the live feed on FB and Jimmy looking good.

We know that, but how was he practicing.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Lol remember when Kaep had an amazing training camp after getting coached on ,"touch passing," by Kurt Warner?

Kap then proceeded to stink up the team with an absolute garbage season.

Well, that's because kap sucked. We are hoping Jimmy is good

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Watching the live feed on FB and Jimmy looking good.

We know that, but how was he practicing.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Nobody on here is saying JG is a bust. Nobody is saying he can't or won't fix it. I've personally have great confidence in Jimmy. What I am saying is five int's in a row in the red zone in 11 on 11, simulating game situations, when in a game is a 41 million to one chance. That says it is not a fluke, and there is something wrong with his thought process when the red zone requires you to throw into tight windows, score touchdowns, and avoid the very costly interceptions down there. He'll do it, but he's got to analyze it and correct it.

A professional pilot flying the simulator making approaches in 600 foot visibility fog is supposed to land on speed, on the centerline, and in the touchdown zone. If he crashes and burns repeatedly, he best black out a front tooth and go apply for a Walmart greeter job. Jimmy won't need to do that. He'll fix it. But he won't ignore it or dismiss it or poo poo it like this board, or he will be in trouble.

Like a flight simulator, and practice games, and 11 on 11 practice sessions, they don't count, but they do matter.

I've got to consider this one a bad analogy. My uncle was a professional pilot for many years, from training pilots throughout WWII to flying 747s out of SFO to Europe. No passenger was ever injured on a flight flown by him.

In a civilian jet, you want every touchdown to be identical. Nothing exceptional occurs in a good landing. Now consider an extension of your analogy. Your commercial pilot is practicing landing in bad conditions, possibly horrid conditions, but in any case different, always changing, and very dangerous (in theory, remember it's only a simulator). Short airstrips, T-storms, snowstorms, fog, uncooperative winds forcing a landing in a crosswind, landing with an engine out or a wing damaged, the list of conditions worth practicing, none of them pleasant in RL, goes on and on. Practicing under these conditions on a simulator would likely lead to multiple disasters. In reality, these conditions are avoided as much as is possible, by grounding aircraft, diverting flights to different airports, etc. Modern airports, meteorology, and traffic control makes it far safer than it once was.

Also, I'm willing to bet my uncle didn't become a great pilot by playing it safe in practice, particularly as a military pilot. I'm sure he risked his neck on plenty of occasions to test the performance of the craft he was piloting, as well as dealing with hazardous conditions such as I mentioned above. He didn't crash and burn, but then I expect it's a lot easier to throw an NFL INT than it is to crash and burn, and a whole lot less is riding on the outcome.

Just my two cents worth.

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Nobody on here is saying JG is a bust. Nobody is saying he can't or won't fix it. I've personally have great confidence in Jimmy. What I am saying is five int's in a row in the red zone in 11 on 11, simulating game situations, when in a game is a 41 million to one chance. That says it is not a fluke, and there is something wrong with his thought process when the red zone requires you to throw into tight windows, score touchdowns, and avoid the very costly interceptions down there. He'll do it, but he's got to analyze it and correct it.

A professional pilot flying the simulator making approaches in 600 foot visibility fog is supposed to land on speed, on the centerline, and in the touchdown zone. If he crashes and burns repeatedly, he best black out a front tooth and go apply for a Walmart greeter job. Jimmy won't need to do that. He'll fix it. But he won't ignore it or dismiss it or poo poo it like this board, or he will be in trouble.

Like a flight simulator, and practice games, and 11 on 11 practice sessions, they don't count, but they do matter.

I've got to consider this one a bad analogy. My uncle was a professional pilot for many years, from training pilots throughout WWII to flying 747s out of SFO to Europe. No passenger was ever injured on a flight flown by him.

In a civilian jet, you want every touchdown to be identical. Nothing exceptional occurs in a good landing. Now consider an extension of your analogy. Your commercial pilot is practicing landing in bad conditions, possibly horrid conditions, but in any case different, always changing, and very dangerous (in theory, remember it's only a simulator). Short airstrips, T-storms, snowstorms, fog, uncooperative winds forcing a landing in a crosswind, landing with an engine out or a wing damaged, the list of conditions worth practicing, none of them pleasant in RL, goes on and on. Practicing under these conditions on a simulator would likely lead to multiple disasters. In reality, these conditions are avoided as much as is possible, by grounding aircraft, diverting flights to different airports, etc. Modern airports, meteorology, and traffic control makes it far safer than it once was.

Also, I'm willing to bet my uncle didn't become a great pilot by playing it safe in practice, particularly as a military pilot. I'm sure he risked his neck on plenty of occasions to test the performance of the craft he was piloting, as well as dealing with hazardous conditions such as I mentioned above. He didn't crash and burn, but then I expect it's a lot easier to throw an NFL INT than it is to crash and burn, and a whole lot less is riding on the outcome.

Just my two cents worth.

Wut?

As a former Navy carrier fighter pilot and commercial airline pilot, I can assure you you have only scratched the surface what we have dealt with, and I have never crashed the sim, or airplane. You do not practice getting into disasters. You practice avoiding them. You do ejection and parachute and ditching training in the military and evacuation drills in commercial aviation. As to playing it safe as a military pilot, you do that by testing the edge of the flight envelope above 10,000 feet to give yourself time to recover. In air combat maneuvering, if you are out of controlled flight descending through 10,000 feet, your orders are to eject.

I agree it is much more common to throw an interception than to crash an airplane, but the idea that you practice to avoid each is the same, and if you can't do that, you fail.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Nobody on here is saying JG is a bust. Nobody is saying he can't or won't fix it. I've personally have great confidence in Jimmy. What I am saying is five int's in a row in the red zone in 11 on 11, simulating game situations, when in a game is a 41 million to one chance. That says it is not a fluke, and there is something wrong with his thought process when the red zone requires you to throw into tight windows, score touchdowns, and avoid the very costly interceptions down there. He'll do it, but he's got to analyze it and correct it.

A professional pilot flying the simulator making approaches in 600 foot visibility fog is supposed to land on speed, on the centerline, and in the touchdown zone. If he crashes and burns repeatedly, he best black out a front tooth and go apply for a Walmart greeter job. Jimmy won't need to do that. He'll fix it. But he won't ignore it or dismiss it or poo poo it like this board, or he will be in trouble.

Like a flight simulator, and practice games, and 11 on 11 practice sessions, they don't count, but they do matter.

I've got to consider this one a bad analogy. My uncle was a professional pilot for many years, from training pilots throughout WWII to flying 747s out of SFO to Europe. No passenger was ever injured on a flight flown by him.

In a civilian jet, you want every touchdown to be identical. Nothing exceptional occurs in a good landing. Now consider an extension of your analogy. Your commercial pilot is practicing landing in bad conditions, possibly horrid conditions, but in any case different, always changing, and very dangerous (in theory, remember it's only a simulator). Short airstrips, T-storms, snowstorms, fog, uncooperative winds forcing a landing in a crosswind, landing with an engine out or a wing damaged, the list of conditions worth practicing, none of them pleasant in RL, goes on and on. Practicing under these conditions on a simulator would likely lead to multiple disasters. In reality, these conditions are avoided as much as is possible, by grounding aircraft, diverting flights to different airports, etc. Modern airports, meteorology, and traffic control makes it far safer than it once was.

Also, I'm willing to bet my uncle didn't become a great pilot by playing it safe in practice, particularly as a military pilot. I'm sure he risked his neck on plenty of occasions to test the performance of the craft he was piloting, as well as dealing with hazardous conditions such as I mentioned above. He didn't crash and burn, but then I expect it's a lot easier to throw an NFL INT than it is to crash and burn, and a whole lot less is riding on the outcome.

Just my two cents worth.

Wut?

As a former Navy carrier fighter pilot and commercial airline pilot, I can assure you you have only scratched the surface what we have dealt with, and I have never crashed the sim, or airplane. You do not practice getting into disasters. You practice avoiding them. You do ejection and parachute and ditching training in the military and evacuation drills in commercial aviation. As to playing it safe as a military pilot, you do that by testing the edge of the flight envelope above 10,000 feet to give yourself time to recover. In air combat maneuvering, if you are out of controlled flight descending through 10,000 feet, your orders are to eject.

I agree it is much more common to throw an interception than to crash an airplane, but the idea that you practice to avoid each is the same, and if you can't do that, you fail.

I was just defending my uncle's honor. I know I'm ignorant on the subject. What I wrote about my uncle is true, and I know he had some near disasters early in his career. It wasn't modern aviation.

The point I really wanted to make is that there is no comparison. In sports practice, you desire to try experimental things in an effort to improve. You cannot do that as a commercial pilot. I apologize if my simulator carry on was completely wrong. I was just speculating at that point, trying to mentally figure out how a commercial pilot could possibly experiment the way an NFL QB does in training camp.

My simulator analogy was an attempt to simulate the moving pieces of 21 other professional NFL players on the field. Do commercial pilots practice in simulators with everything going wrong? NFL QBs experience that regularly.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Watching the live feed on FB and Jimmy looking good.

We know that, but how was he practicing.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Lol remember when Kaep had an amazing training camp after getting coached on ,"touch passing," by Kurt Warner?

Kap then proceeded to stink up the team with an absolute garbage season.

Jimmy worked with Tom House who is a proven QB guru/instructor that's worked with some of the most elite QBs in the league. Kaepernick could never throw touch passes no matter who he worked with plus this proves Kurt Warner sucks as a coach.

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Lol remember when Kaep had an amazing training camp after getting coached on ,"touch passing," by Kurt Warner?

Kap then proceeded to stink up the team with an absolute garbage season.

Jimmy worked with Tom House who is a proven QB guru/instructor that's worked with some of the most elite QBs in the league. Kaepernick could never throw touch passes no matter who he worked with plus this proves Kurt Warner sucks as a coach.

To this day I think that Kappy's big dropoff started with that 2 weeks with Kurt Warner.

Kid tried to leave with Jimmy's helmet.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1P6kqKBYyg/?igshid=p04v8ntw7h0k

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Lol remember when Kaep had an amazing training camp after getting coached on ,"touch passing," by Kurt Warner?

Kap then proceeded to stink up the team with an absolute garbage season.

Jimmy worked with Tom House who is a proven QB guru/instructor that's worked with some of the most elite QBs in the league. Kaepernick could never throw touch passes no matter who he worked with plus this proves Kurt Warner sucks as a coach.

To this day I think that Kappy's big dropoff started with that 2 weeks with Kurt Warner.

Man I'd love to have seen Kaep throw to Goodwin and guys like Pettis. All the WR's that Kyle has, has speed and more speed, and great RAC ability. These guys, under a good offensive scheme like Kyle's would make Kaep look really good. Unfortunately you had a former OLineman running Harbaugh's offensive scheme instead of a former Wide Receiver.

Nice, I found the pilot training thread.

What button do I push to eject?

Originally posted by Chief:
Nice, I found the pilot training thread.

What button do I push to eject?

Be careful with that ejection seat - there's literally a rocket under your ass.